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bearfield
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"guilty gear strive (ps4, ps5, PC) | open beta feb 18-21"
Tue Feb-09-21 04:05 AM by bearfield

  

          

https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/obt/

beta runs feb 18 - 21 on PSN. no PS+ required. it starts on the 17th if you preorder. this beta is very promising. it has tutorial and training modes, local versus and versus CPU modes, 13 characters playable (no anji), and network play featuring their rollback code that was developed in-house. even if the rollback netcode is not good it should at least be usable, which is more than can be said for the netcode in the last beta

with this beta approaching we're finally getting some more footage of the game in action. it looks good. it seems very neutral heavy which is a welcome change from the oppressive oki of the xrd series. they got rid of some legacy guilty gear stuff but there is still a lot of guilty gear in this game: anti-air conversions into P juggle into super, lots of roman cancelling, dust combos, fishing for random hits and converting into massive damage, dragon installs. i believe that blitz is gone. i didn't see any just frame blocking but i think that property was absorbed into faultless defense. check out some matches:

axl vs ramlethal - https://youtu.be/El0N-CwImF8
ky kiske vs giovanna - https://youtu.be/IEOuqGjM6-I
sol badguy vs nagoriyuki - https://youtu.be/tSaNhmTYONI

gamespot footage (3 matches) - https://youtu.be/F9Wy1k-Rrko

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I'm gonna try to learn Guilty Gear
Feb 09th 2021
1
GG has the best tutorials of any fighting game
Feb 12th 2021
5
I’ma Giovanna main.
Feb 11th 2021
2
I'm rolling with Nagoriyuki
Feb 12th 2021
3
I mean I got to try him out too. He sold me on the game.
Feb 12th 2021
4
i think you're a little advanced for gio
Feb 12th 2021
6
      I’ll give Millia a look
Feb 14th 2021
8
           i feel like one character is as viable as the next right now
Feb 15th 2021
9
                After watching some early matches
Feb 16th 2021
12
official starter guides for all characters in the beta
Feb 14th 2021
7
Here are some matches
Feb 15th 2021
10
starter guide #14 - basic actions
Feb 15th 2021
11
I'm hype
Feb 17th 2021
13
      yeah it's a lot to learn but it makes for great mind games
Feb 17th 2021
14
it's up for preorderers
Feb 17th 2021
15
netcode seems very good
Feb 18th 2021
16
open beta #2 may 13-16
Apr 29th 2021
17
im in. havent played since Accent Core lol
May 08th 2021
18
      RE: im in. havent played since Accent Core lol
May 08th 2021
19
           got you added. looking forward to getting some games in!
May 11th 2021
20
                well i got a wrench thrown in my weekend so i prob wont be on
May 13th 2021
23
starter guide #15 - anji
May 11th 2021
21
starter guide #16 - i-no
May 12th 2021
22
I have a conundrum with this game
May 16th 2021
24
it's not a good game yet
May 17th 2021
25
I definitely agree with everything you said.
May 28th 2021
26
I'll always have a place in my heart for SF
Jun 15th 2021
27
(Mark Jackson voice) Respectfully...
Jun 22nd 2021
28
RE: (Mark Jackson voice) Respectfully...
Jul 28th 2021
36
the combo routing in this game is wild
Jul 01st 2021
29
starter guide - goldlewis
Jul 22nd 2021
30
As I call him "DICK MAN"
Jul 23rd 2021
31
RE: starter guide - goldlewis
Jul 23rd 2021
32
it's a very engaging game and the matches can be quick
Jul 23rd 2021
33
      RE: it's a very engaging game and the matches can be quick
Jul 27th 2021
35
           RE: it's a very engaging game and the matches can be quick
Aug 02nd 2021
37
85-90% damage wallbreak combo
Jul 27th 2021
34
HEAVENLY POTEMKIN BUSTERRRRR!
Aug 19th 2021
38
pot's megafist is busted
Aug 19th 2021
39
      RE: pot's megafist is busted
Aug 27th 2021
40
           RE: pot's megafist is busted
Aug 28th 2021
41

Mafamaticks
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1. "I'm gonna try to learn Guilty Gear"
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this'll be my first GG game

  

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bearfield
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5. "GG has the best tutorials of any fighting game"
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from basic movement to bread and butter combos to fuzzy guard and even character specific matchups. it's all covered. you seem to have a wealth of fighting game experience. you'll be able to pick it up easily

  

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2. "I’ma Giovanna main."
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She look straight forward enough for my dumb SF brain.

I preordered and will hop on the beta.

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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Mafamaticks
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3. "I'm rolling with Nagoriyuki"
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He looks bottom tier so far with that blood meter mechanic but Imma make it work

  

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4. "I mean I got to try him out too. He sold me on the game."
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His whole design is wild.

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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bearfield
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6. "i think you're a little advanced for gio"
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Fri Feb-12-21 07:26 PM by bearfield

  

          

from what i can gather her whole thing is letting players ignore meter management. if you don't spend meter with her then she does more damage and maybe has more moves. she's supposed to be a beginner-beginner type of character. i think you could pick up millia since you're a laura main. both millia and laura are all about getting that knockdown and setting up your oki. millia even has a meterless dash/side switch like laura

that said there is no wrong or right way to approach this game. whatever you think is going to work for you is the best course of action

  

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8. "I’ll give Millia a look"
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She hasn’t really been a character I’ve gravitated toward in previous GGs, but I’ll see how she plays in Strive.

Saw the starter guide for Giovanna and she not only looks basic, which I dig, but maybe a bit under equipped for a Guilty Gear game, which I don’t dig.

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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bearfield
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9. "i feel like one character is as viable as the next right now"
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Mon Feb-15-21 02:28 AM by bearfield

  

          

this is functionally the beginning of the meta. no tiers have been defined. it's a hard reset of the series. who knows which character actually works in this new set of rules. going with the character that has the most appealing playstyle or design is as good a reason as any. that's how i picked ramlethal in xrd; she played like a guest character due to her weird target combo juggles and i thought she looked cool

maybe giovanna has been designed for onboarding and will make for a better transition for new players. she might not be under-equipped because of universal mechanics like roman cancel and faultless defense. i will say that the thing that makes her unique is the lack of a unique mechanic or play style. millia has her airdash oki, axl is the zoner, ram has her shooting swords, faust has random item toss, nagoriyuki has blood gauge, etc. giovanna has at best a passive buff which isn't very guilty gear

  

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12. "After watching some early matches"
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I’m gonna stick with Gio for the beta. She has some safe mix-up, tick throw pressure, dash cancels, high damage, and crazy corner carry. She feels like home.

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bearfield
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7. "official starter guides for all characters in the beta"
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Sun Feb-14-21 09:26 PM by bearfield

  

          

these are brief explanations of character mechanics, strengths, and play styles plus detailed command lists. #1-7 are about 10 months old and might not reflect the current state of the game

#1 - Sol: https://youtu.be/Nvtkod61MH8

#2 - Ky: https://youtu.be/720w-AmzlUg

#3 - May: https://youtu.be/FiofYbmtugg

#4 - Axl: https://youtu.be/dxkcvU6qDQk

#5 - Chipp: https://youtu.be/R4YMb-fhT1M

#6 - Potemkin: https://youtu.be/TWAtA9fpWX8

#7 - Faust: https://youtu.be/lR4QcxsBaXQ

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#8 - Millia: https://youtu.be/qD3DNjAo7Yw

#9 - Zato: https://youtu.be/HtVcCRdWgKA

#10 - Ramlethal: https://youtu.be/EcgPCcYE-Mk

#11 - Leo: https://youtu.be/4Yc8Yi3tyNo

#12 - Nagoriyuki: https://youtu.be/dglw2wuh2zk

#13 - Giovanna: https://youtu.be/C0XZjad2eRI

  

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10. "Here are some matches"
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Mon Feb-15-21 10:09 AM by Mafamaticks

  

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvTs1BXOBQE

That blood meter shit looks rough on Nago. It's looking like if you can't kill your opponent in a combo then don't even bother doing it. Once combo will send you into blood rage basically.

I'm sticking with him fuck it. I'm sure we'll see better strats with him once the game has it's legs under it.

  

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11. "starter guide #14 - basic actions"
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Mon Feb-15-21 09:37 PM by bearfield

  

          

https://youtu.be/QbswI_YaXJY

this is still very much guilty gear. you now have to charge dust (D) to launch. throws are no longer instant startup but they still look pretty fast. dead angle (alpha counter) was merged into roman cancel (yellow). this makes sense as dead angle used 50% tension anyway. they also added instant block to faultless defense

the rollout for this *beta* has been phenomenal. i hope this sets a bar that other fighting games want to clear

  

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13. "I'm hype"
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Wed Feb-17-21 09:06 AM by Mafamaticks

  

          

The mechanics in this game are fucking dope. The defence system opens up a bunch of different punishes. Got me looking at Nago a lot better now. I have to go back and watch some matches because I don't think a lot of people were utilizing all of these.

What's the window like for faultless defence in other GG games? Like 3S parry?

  

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14. "yeah it's a lot to learn but it makes for great mind games"
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> What's the window like for faultless defence in other GG games? Like 3S parry?

i'm fairly certain FD is as fast as blocking so instant? https://www.dustloop.com/wiki/ probably has answers that i might not be able to articulate

  

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bearfield
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15. "it's up for preorderers"
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it wouldn't show up on PSN via my PS4 so i had to go to here to get it: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/search/strive

  

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16. "netcode seems very good"
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all the matches i played were on US east and US west and they almost uniformly felt good to great. i can only recall one match that was iffy but it was still very playable. will try matches on overseas servers tonight

i need way more time with the game to accurately assess it but so far i like it a lot. the damage is probably still too high. most matches are about 30-40 seconds, which is pretty short. the presentation is astounding. ramlethal looks and animates like a character from a miyazaki film. stages are brimming with detail. sometimes it's a little busy and i can't quite make sense of the action, especially in the corner with ramlethal's swords and with chipp and millia pressure. the GUI fonts for combo count, meter names, character names, and battle notifications (just frame, counter, punish) are all different in a way that makes the design feel incongruous. hopefully they settle on something uniform that ties the rest of the presentation together

it's weird going from one game to the next iteration and the character you're using has far fewer moves than in the previous game. not even a pre-patch times balance change kind of thing where one move was removed or altered but a fundamental reset of the character. my muscle memory keeps betraying me because i want to throw ramlethal's fireball (gone), pull off her tekken dial-a-combo style P and K blockstrings and juggles (gone), use her command throw (gone), launch into juggle state off of normal dauro (gone), juggle with giant 2S and 2HS (gone)... she lost a lot of good tools. her neutral is strong though and it seems like footsies is a viable play style in strive. they did keep the sprit of her gameplay, which previously was full-screen corner carry via long juggling combos into countless long form corner mixups and combos. it's just less complicated to pull it off now, although you do have to spend meter for red roman cancel to get the really long corner carry combos. however having to use red RC at the correct time in the hitstun and then carefully positioning for the follow up juggle during the slowdown is interesting and challenging. her corner pressure is different but still seems strong, although corner pressure in general has been nerfed due to wall break. i think i like this change because corner pressure in xrd was pretty tough to deal with

  

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17. "open beta #2 may 13-16"
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https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/obt2/

all characters playable, rematch feature in netplay, and balance changes. no early access for preorderers and no PS+ needed to play

  

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18. "im in. havent played since Accent Core lol"
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Sat May-08-21 09:05 AM by BrooklynWHAT

  

          

I actually have Xrd but it came out when I didn't have any friends that played fighters.

I think were friends on PSN but if not shoot me a request. LegendXavier. I need all the reps I can get because I haven't played any fighters at all since the first year of DBZ. I'll definitely be on Friday and some of Saturday. not sure how much Sunday

edit: wtf happened in the story since AC??? none of my big favorites are in this. Testament!!!! Jam, Slayer. at least Ky is never going anywhere

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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bearfield
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19. "RE: im in. havent played since Accent Core lol"
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>I actually have Xrd but it came out when I didn't have any
>friends that played fighters.
>
>I think were friends on PSN but if not shoot me a request.
>LegendXavier.

added. i'm CT_5_Holy on psn

>edit: wtf happened in the story since AC??? none of my big
>favorites are in this. Testament!!!! Jam, Slayer. at least Ky
>is never going anywhere

https://guilty-gear.fandom.com/wiki/Series_timeline probably has the answers you're looking for. i imagine jam, slayer, dizzy, and other series mainstays will be added into the game as DLC. they better not bring back testament!

  

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20. "got you added. looking forward to getting some games in!"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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23. "well i got a wrench thrown in my weekend so i prob wont be on"
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friends came up w/ a surprise beach trip for my 30th lol. definitely copping when the game releases for real though

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21. "starter guide #15 - anji"
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https://youtu.be/5s_Pq_go7XU

  

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22. "starter guide #16 - i-no"
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https://youtu.be/yF07o74V7nc

  

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24. "I have a conundrum with this game"
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I'm not a fan of the play style of this game. Not much at all. However, ASW has done an excellent job with this netcode. To be honest, it's probably the best I've ever played. I want to support them with this game, but I don't think I would ever play it.

It's cool, but it's not my type of fighting game. And as a fan of fighting games, I don't need another game that I won't play. I haven't touched Dragonball FighterZ in forever, and as much as love Samurai Shodown, the netcode is complete garbage and that makes the game near unplayable. So I go back to SFV, which isn't perfect, but it's just average enough to be the game that I go back to most.

I've played the beta, but I don't know what to do. It's great, and I support it, but I don't think I can purchase it.

You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles


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25. "it's not a good game yet"
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Mon May-17-21 02:15 PM by bearfield

  

          

this is to be expected from a new game. stuff is going to be busted and over/under-cooked. i feel like the base is pretty solid but it's a little unreadable and inconsistent at times. even though this game was designed to be "simplified" and appealing to new players the roman cancelling in this game is extremely complicated and kind of a barrier to entry, at least for somewhat high level play. maybe this game is amazing in a few seasons after several balance patches. the netcode is indeed incredible, easily the best i've experienced in a modern fighting game. i might not play it often after it releases but i feel like i have to purchase it if only to support a japanese dev releasing a game with amazing netcode

  

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26. "I definitely agree with everything you said."
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It's pretty obvious that Strive will get to be a great game, but it's got a lot of work to do. I think that because they did lot of work on the netcode, they will get a bit of a pass on some of the other shortcomings, as well they should because the online is awesome. We've seen the results of it as well, with SNK saying they are working on rollback for KOF15 (I can't do another online game with that POS netcode in Sam Sho).

But I think I may purchase it eventually, but I don't know if there is a rush to do so. ASW has earned my support.

You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles


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27. "I'll always have a place in my heart for SF"
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but 50% of the reason I'm buying GG Strive is to put money in their pocket for implementing rollback. The other is because of Nagoriyuki not gonna lie.

Hopefully this makes a bunch of money and rollback becomes the standard.

  

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28. "(Mark Jackson voice) Respectfully..."
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...FUCK Boss Nagoryuki, especially the Extreme Route version.
what in the SNK fuck is this

  

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36. "RE: (Mark Jackson voice) Respectfully..."
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>...FUCK Boss Nagoryuki, especially the Extreme Route
>version.
>what in the SNK fuck is this

Haha. He mopped me 3 or 4 times before I started looking around online like 'is it just me or is dude wild cheap and broken?'. I was so relieved to find out that it wasn't just me!

I'm just getting started with GG so I DO have a long way to go. But I was rolling pretty good until I got to him on my 2nd arcade run.

He beat me like 10 times and I won ONE round. It ended my first night of GG. I'll be back but at least I know now.

  

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29. "the combo routing in this game is wild"
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Thu Jul-01-21 04:16 PM by bearfield

  

          

https://youtu.be/1y1hwf6joNc

so much variety and so many options. this feels like a game where you learn the theory of specific components of combos then apply them situationally for optimal damage and oki. this is opposed to something like SFV which has very limited combo routing for most characters

  

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30. "starter guide - goldlewis "
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Thu Jul-22-21 09:07 PM by bearfield

  

          

https://youtu.be/BTHYTL9af5Y

gotta say this seems like a unique and intuitive way for a character's moveset to line up with the input commands. design of the character is super guilty gear as well

  

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31. "As I call him "DICK MAN""
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Watching the story mode I really liked this character.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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32. "RE: starter guide - goldlewis "
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>https://youtu.be/BTHYTL9af5Y
>
>gotta say this seems like a unique and intuitive way for a
>character's moveset to line up with the input commands.
>design of the character is super guilty gear as well

This game looks amazing. I've bought it but I haven't jumped into it yet. Just from watching some videooooooos, I expect to be enamored and locked in if I can just get my feet on the ground/figure out who I want to play with. I can see veering towards some zone person if not a big character who can do DAMAGE on punishes, but I don't know if the game is simple enough for my old SF4 Gouken tricks to work! Haha.

  

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33. "it's a very engaging game and the matches can be quick "
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that's an intoxicating combo. since both players can usually cancel any action offensively (red and purple roman cancel) or cancel the opponent's offensive action (yellow roman cancel and burst) nothing is "set" (like SFV v-trigger activation or SFIV FADC timings) or taken for granted so you have to be on your toes all the time

and this game is still incredibly technical. they upped the damage and nerfed gatling combos but all the just frame stuff and high level decision making is still in there. wakeup reversal timing is very strict. character weight is still present (combos that work on a heavy character won't work on a light character.) combo timing can get down to 1-2 frames. it is a hard game sometimes

>This game looks amazing. I've bought it but I haven't jumped
>into it yet. Just from watching some videooooooos, I expect to
>be enamored and locked in if I can just get my feet on the
>ground/figure out who I want to play with. I can see veering
>towards some zone person if not a big character who can do
>DAMAGE on punishes, but I don't know if the game is simple
>enough for my old SF4 Gouken tricks to work! Haha.

sounds like nago is your man. GIANT buttons, huge damage, and a lot of risky rushdown. early returns on him from the beta were not promising but folks have started to unlock him and he is a real problem in the hands of a capable player

  

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35. "RE: it's a very engaging game and the matches can be quick "
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Potemkin feels like Gief if someone at capcom REALLY FUCKING LOVED Gief and was left alone to make design choices. Wow.

But I’m telling you right now, Nag on extreme on arcade mode is a mark ass trick with his constant rage without losing life and other shady snk boss absurdity on his side. I started playing with him before trying Pote so I get how things can go wrong with him. And the computer just cancels all of his issues with him as the boss on extreme. Lame as hell.

>that's an intoxicating combo. since both players can usually
>cancel any action offensively (red and purple roman cancel) or
>cancel the opponent's offensive action (yellow roman cancel
>and burst) nothing is "set" (like SFV v-trigger activation or
>SFIV FADC timings) or taken for granted so you have to be on
>your toes all the time
>
>and this game is still incredibly technical. they upped the
>damage and nerfed gatling combos but all the just frame stuff
>and high level decision making is still in there. wakeup
>reversal timing is very strict. character weight is still
>present (combos that work on a heavy character won't work on a
>light character.) combo timing can get down to 1-2 frames.
>it is a hard game sometimes
>
>>This game looks amazing. I've bought it but I haven't jumped
>>into it yet. Just from watching some videooooooos, I expect
>to
>>be enamored and locked in if I can just get my feet on the
>>ground/figure out who I want to play with. I can see veering
>>towards some zone person if not a big character who can do
>>DAMAGE on punishes, but I don't know if the game is simple
>>enough for my old SF4 Gouken tricks to work! Haha.
>
>sounds like nago is your man. GIANT buttons, huge damage, and
>a lot of risky rushdown. early returns on him from the beta
>were not promising but folks have started to unlock him and he
>is a real problem in the hands of a capable player

  

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37. "RE: it's a very engaging game and the matches can be quick "
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>But I’m telling you right now, Nag on extreme on arcade mode
>is a mark ass trick with his constant rage without losing life
>and other shady snk boss absurdity on his side. I started
>playing with him before trying Pote so I get how things can go
>wrong with him. And the computer just cancels all of his
>issues with him as the boss on extreme. Lame as hell.

Nago on Extreme is the devil, bruh. I watched as a Sol player I know go so many rounds with him, getting him in a rhythm and he would just get busted up at the point you THINK you got the advantage

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34. "85-90% damage wallbreak combo"
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https://youtu.be/1VrPOsYc8nM

not particularly viable as no one is getting hit by 6H in the corner but it does show off his damage potential off one hit. this is nothing compared to what actual good players and lab monsters are doing with goldlewis. he seems legit. buttons kind of suck but behemoth typhoon is really versatile and malleable. 2P combos into sideswitch and fast startup BTs so he can get going off a quick button. i was bouncing around FGC personality streams when he dropped last night and it was fun to watch the new character discovery and experimentation process happen in real time

  

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38. "HEAVENLY POTEMKIN BUSTERRRRR!"
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NO NEED FOR MODERATION!

I don't even know if that's what he says, but it is a BLAST to get someone with it..especially a raw one. My first one was raw against a Millia who was spamming the same mixup over and over. I was amazingly pleased to slang that buster on her!

Besides that, fuck Sol and his 'everything seems safe' azz.

Also, I can't beat a Zato in a set to save my life. I can't deal with the Eddie-assisted mixup shenanigans AT ALL. Once I get jammed up, I lose absurd amounts of life in a short period of time and it makes me big sad/mad. I'll figure it out at some point!

I went into the Japan lobby last night and got touched up by a May before the connection went wonky.

Mostly, I really need to figure out how to lab against certain things. The computer is obviously incapable of playing the game like a human so that just doesn't give me the reps I need. More than anything, it seems like the computer doesn't use meter well. And they allow way too many 'walk up' busters. I didn't get a regular buster on someone until day 3 (I cornered a Zato and won a match with it...still lost the set tho!).

I'm on the 8th floor after a few days of playing online. I don't feel outclassed per se, but I have run into a few folks who play GG like 'do a safe-seeming mix-up that I have practiced for 2 weeks, run away for 5 seconds, repeat'. I'm not good enough to keep good pressure and solid punishes on that style just yet. But I'm getting there!

>https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/obt/
>
>beta runs feb 18 - 21 on PSN. no PS+ required. it starts on
>the 17th if you preorder. this beta is very promising. it
>has tutorial and training modes, local versus and versus CPU
>modes, 13 characters playable (no anji), and network play
>featuring their rollback code that was developed in-house.
>even if the rollback netcode is not good it should at least be
>usable, which is more than can be said for the netcode in the
>last beta
>
>with this beta approaching we're finally getting some more
>footage of the game in action. it looks good. it seems very
>neutral heavy which is a welcome change from the oppressive
>oki of the xrd series. they got rid of some legacy guilty
>gear stuff but there is still a lot of guilty gear in this
>game: anti-air conversions into P juggle into super, lots of
>roman cancelling, dust combos, fishing for random hits and
>converting into massive damage, dragon installs. i believe
>that blitz is gone. i didn't see any just frame blocking but
>i think that property was absorbed into faultless defense.
>check out some matches:
>
>axl vs ramlethal - https://youtu.be/El0N-CwImF8
>ky kiske vs giovanna - https://youtu.be/IEOuqGjM6-I
>sol badguy vs nagoriyuki - https://youtu.be/tSaNhmTYONI
>
>gamespot footage (3 matches) - https://youtu.be/F9Wy1k-Rrko

  

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39. "pot's megafist is busted"
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especially the backwards one. i've lost rounds to folks spamming it. it's pretty difficult to deal with. fairly certain it's + on block. really hard to anti air because it has a massive hitbox and disjointed hurtbox and is super fast. basically have to hard read it and intercept with fast air attack like P or K. have you watched top pot players to learn tech? FAB is the most famous pot player in japan and probably the world. not sure who plays him in the americas and europe

  

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40. "RE: pot's megafist is busted"
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>especially the backwards one. i've lost rounds to folks
>spamming it. it's pretty difficult to deal with. fairly
>certain it's + on block. really hard to anti air because it
>has a massive hitbox and disjointed hurtbox and is super fast.
> basically have to hard read it and intercept with fast air
>attack like P or K. have you watched top pot players to learn
>tech? FAB is the most famous pot player in japan and probably
>the world. not sure who plays him in the americas and europe

Fuck Millia Rage early on since we’re here. Every hit I take against one feels like I’m getting screwed in some way. And she’s the thing I was hoping I wouldn’t be faced with having Potemkin..The whole dial a shitty mixup into your entire offense stuff. Noob problems I guess.

  

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41. "RE: pot's megafist is busted"
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>>especially the backwards one. i've lost rounds to folks
>>spamming it. it's pretty difficult to deal with. fairly
>>certain it's + on block. really hard to anti air because it
>>has a massive hitbox and disjointed hurtbox and is super
>fast.
>> basically have to hard read it and intercept with fast air
>>attack like P or K. have you watched top pot players to
>learn
>>tech? FAB is the most famous pot player in japan and
>probably
>>the world. not sure who plays him in the americas and
>europe
>
>Fuck Millia Rage early on since we’re here. Every hit I take
>against one feels like I’m getting screwed in some way. And
>she’s the thing I was hoping I wouldn’t be faced with
>having Potemkin..The whole dial a shitty mixup into your
>entire offense stuff. Noob problems I guess.

More than that tho, fuck Axl. Haha

  

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