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"Microsoft is coming for Wacom"


          

this post is going wood, but fuck it.

the monopoly is winding down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Z-l-nSlN0

Also, i aint know that many people didn't know Cintiqs existed

  

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Another board I was on was complaining about Wacom being lazy
Oct 26th 2016
1
UC Logic and Huion already eating away at the low end
Oct 26th 2016
2
that video didnt show the 3d capabilities
Oct 27th 2016
3
Wow
Oct 27th 2016
4
i'd be interested to see if Blender/Maya integrates the dial
Oct 27th 2016
5
FOCK. Its a wrap.
Dec 21st 2016
11
Still haven't seen too many Wacom comparisons oddly
Oct 28th 2016
6
great overview and review
Dec 17th 2016
7
yeah the all-in-one aspect is a blessing and a curse
Dec 17th 2016
8
      RE: yeah the all-in-one aspect is a blessing and a curse
Dec 19th 2016
9
           yeah you buy a Cintiq and it lasts for at least 10 years
Dec 19th 2016
10
                Yeah but this is like getting an iMac and a Cintiq.
Dec 21st 2016
12
                     not really
Dec 21st 2016
13
                          I expect them to fix this. This is the boldest thing
Dec 22nd 2016
14
                               its been 4 years and N-trig still falling short.
Dec 22nd 2016
15

BigReg
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1. "Another board I was on was complaining about Wacom being lazy"
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basically that their high end is still HIGH END and worth it, but their products are generally overpriced and its about time others started going for their necks.

>this post is going wood, but fuck it.
>
>the monopoly is winding down
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Z-l-nSlN0
>
>Also, i aint know that many people didn't know Cintiqs
>existed

  

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Wed Oct-26-16 04:52 PM

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2. "UC Logic and Huion already eating away at the low end"
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especially UC Logic making Wacom look very overpriced.
they don't have as many bells and whistles, but they make the $600-700 difference look suspect.
Now MS has an all in one solution thats a better deal if you're starting from scratch.
I'd much prefer this on my desk than two huge monitors.

I think Wacom got too comfortable and i'm surprised the reintroduction of the stylus in consumer tech, a better stylus, didn't have them switching it up a little.

Why get a Companion when you can get a Surface book?
Why get one of their smaller monitors over an Artisul D13?

Wacom is gonna get lost in the sauce before too long. They need to work on offering more at the <$1k level and the >$1500 level.

I SHOULD be able to get at least a 22in tablet monitor for under $700 with a Wacom digitizer in it.

  

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RobOne4
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Thu Oct-27-16 01:44 AM

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3. "that video didnt show the 3d capabilities"
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https://gfycat.com/BreakableFlippantHapuku

just saw this on reddit and this shit is amazing.

November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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Thu Oct-27-16 09:35 AM

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4. "Wow"
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That looks slick as hell.

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Thu Oct-27-16 10:48 AM

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5. "i'd be interested to see if Blender/Maya integrates the dial"
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Castro
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11. "FOCK. Its a wrap. "
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hardware
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Fri Oct-28-16 11:17 AM

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6. "Still haven't seen too many Wacom comparisons oddly"
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people seem to think a touch screen and a pen digitizer are the same tech

  

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xangeluvr
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7. "great overview and review"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NhyDiiaXic

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Sat Dec-17-16 12:56 PM

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8. "yeah the all-in-one aspect is a blessing and a curse"
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more of a curse imo.

  

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9. "RE: yeah the all-in-one aspect is a blessing and a curse"
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Yeah, i mean the thing is frickin beautiful, but yes the all in one aspect really relegates it to a small specific demographic. I'm not buying that thing unless I can upgrade it when I need more.

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10. "yeah you buy a Cintiq and it lasts for at least 10 years"
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you can swap computers 3 times or more in that span so you def get your money's worth

  

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12. "Yeah but this is like getting an iMac and a Cintiq."
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And iMacs maxed out are good for at least 5 years.

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Wed Dec-21-16 11:11 PM

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13. "not really"
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its not really touching an iMac spec-wise
and its not really touching a Cintiq pen-wise which is the real dealbreaker

you could kind of get over the specs if the pen was up to par, but the surface pen isn't even close to Wacom (or UC-Logic for that matter) and Microsoft still hasn't addressed the awful line jitter. If i'm supposed to pay that much for what its supposed to do, i'd expect fewer compromises on the digitizer.

  

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14. "I expect them to fix this. This is the boldest thing"
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they have done in a while.

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Thu Dec-22-16 11:08 PM

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15. "its been 4 years and N-trig still falling short."
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N-trig still suffers from the same jitter as alternative pen tablets and tablet displays on Windows for whatever reason. The Surface pen doesn't seem to have been given an upgrade; 1024 compared to Wacom's +8000. Even the $500 Monoprice 22in sitting in front of me has a pen with 2048. 1024 is acceptable on the Surface Pro and even the Book, but its hard to recommend having that on the desk. It doesn't even have tilt control.

i realize i've done such a heel turn in this post. lol

  

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