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"I too am building my first PC"
Fri Jun-14-13 06:27 PM by hardware

          

and i'm not 100% sure what i'm doing. i'm gathering a list of parts. trying to do some price shaving. this mostly for high end graphic work and video editing and A LOT of multitasking. unfortunately there's no microcenter in TN

$1500 budget

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($108.89 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 3GB Video Card ($233.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P12-1300 54.4 CFM 120mm Fan ($22.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Speakers: Creative Labs A220 9W 2.1ch Speakers ($25.56 @ Amazon)

Total: $1120.32

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-14 19:20 EDT-0400)

  

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Why not get the Core i7 4770k for another $80 dollars?
Jun 14th 2013
1
these prices are misleading.
Jun 14th 2013
3
      Yeah, they were in-store only
Jun 17th 2013
9
           I swapped my case for this one
Jul 17th 2013
66
have you thought about AMD?
Jun 14th 2013
2
recommendations?
Jun 14th 2013
4
wouldn't suggest AMDs for video editing work.
Jun 17th 2013
13
      What's your experience with 'em been?
Jul 06th 2013
53
i'm not sure that gfx card is designed for video editing
Jun 15th 2013
5
Logical Increments Guide:
Jun 15th 2013
6
gaming is secondary for me
Jun 17th 2013
7
      Why not just get a Dell then?
Jun 17th 2013
8
           its still gonna be $1200
Jun 17th 2013
10
                If you are not gaming you should just stick with a Haswell IGP
Jun 17th 2013
11
                     i'm not gaming primarily but its still a workstation
Jun 17th 2013
12
Video Guys has a few reccomended builds
Jun 17th 2013
14
made some small tweaks to my list
Jun 17th 2013
15
      Looks good. I almost never recommend an i7
Jun 17th 2013
16
           aight. how about this
Jun 18th 2013
17
                That's a beastly build
Jun 18th 2013
18
I found this on GAF. Check it out and hope it helps.
Jun 19th 2013
19
managed to scrape some change off
Jun 19th 2013
20
      What OS are you using?
Jun 19th 2013
21
           W7
Jun 19th 2013
23
I live across the street from microcenter
Jun 19th 2013
22
You live in Tustin?
Jun 19th 2013
25
      Nah, Houston.
Jun 19th 2013
27
I share bearfield's concern
Jun 19th 2013
24
#20
Jun 19th 2013
26
      Yeah, I read that already, and your list includes a $400 gaming GPU
Jun 19th 2013
28
           I'm guessing he should be looking at Quadro cards
Jun 19th 2013
29
           IDK WHO TO BELIEVE ANYMORE
Jun 19th 2013
30
                You DO need the power, just different TYPE of power...
Jun 20th 2013
33
                     this is so frustrating
Jun 20th 2013
34
                          What is your source of info? I found some...
Jun 20th 2013
38
                               that article is from 09, first of all
Jun 20th 2013
39
                                    are you doing 3D graphics? Like Maya or 3D Studio
Jun 20th 2013
40
                                         yep
Jun 20th 2013
41
                                              That guy is making a rig for video and photo editing, no?
Jun 20th 2013
42
                                                   oh i see
Jun 21st 2013
43
                                                   what about this?
Jun 21st 2013
44
                                                        RE: what about this?
Jun 21st 2013
45
                                                             yeah this has helped sort out a bit of confusion
Jun 21st 2013
46
                                                                  Yeah. Depends on the type of video editing.
Jun 21st 2013
47
                                                                       i'm leaning Quadro
Jul 02nd 2013
50
That Fractal case is lovely son
Jun 19th 2013
31
Newegg just posted some great Haswell + Mobo combos.
Jun 20th 2013
32
i think i'm gonna stick with Ivy Bridge
Jun 20th 2013
35
      the cpu + mobo you posted in the last one was $550?
Jun 20th 2013
36
           its actually cheaper
Jun 20th 2013
37
Damn I came into this post late.
Jun 21st 2013
48
i want to build a hackintosh...
Jul 02nd 2013
49
Built one, but i'm bipolar with my system tho...One week
Jul 02nd 2013
51
Really easy nowadays.
Jul 03rd 2013
52
As an upgrade I'm looking at one of those GTX 660s.
Jul 07th 2013
54
I think GB of GPU memory is overrated for gaming
Jul 08th 2013
55
      That's kind of what I was thinking.
Jul 15th 2013
62
      For gaming, I'd actually recommend at least 2 (more like 3)
Jul 15th 2013
65
           I went with 2, max res 1920x1080. I'm gamer lite.
Sep 16th 2014
103
Windows 7 Pro on sale
Jul 09th 2013
56
me too.
Jul 12th 2013
57
I'd like to build an in inexpensive
Jul 13th 2013
58
Define "inexpensive."
Jul 13th 2013
59
500-800 dollars
Jul 14th 2013
61
      RE: 500-800 dollars
Jul 15th 2013
63
           thanks
Jul 19th 2013
           thanks
Jul 19th 2013
67
put a number to your budget....otherwise discussion is moot
Jul 13th 2013
60
www.reddit.com/r/buildapc
Jul 15th 2013
64
^^^ Fantastic resources ^^^
Jul 19th 2013
68
Check the Tom's guide, too. It's updated quarterly. link
Jul 19th 2013
69
just got back from putting this together at microcenter
Jul 27th 2013
70
Skimped on the PSU I see. And no video card?
Jul 27th 2013
71
      im not overclocking so he said no need for 750w PSU
Jul 28th 2013
72
           FYI, Inland PSUs get pretty shitty reviews out there. I've got one.
Jul 29th 2013
73
           Not even about a high watt PSU either
Jul 29th 2013
74
Spec'd, ordered...and built.
Aug 02nd 2013
75
Welcome to the club.
Aug 02nd 2013
76
!!!
Aug 02nd 2013
77
      I just went from "WTF is GoG?" to "There goes $20" in a flash
Aug 02nd 2013
78
           i'm hovering over Strike Suit Zero. been wanting that for a while
Aug 02nd 2013
79
                Just pulled the trigger. $21 and change for all 4.
Aug 02nd 2013
80
very nice. Good values
Aug 02nd 2013
81
Good stuff there buddy
Aug 04th 2013
82
UPDATE
Aug 01st 2014
83
RE: UPDATE
Aug 04th 2014
84
I'd do the single internal drive.
Aug 04th 2014
85
looking at my post today, idk what i was thinking
Aug 04th 2014
86
do you think you really need liquid cooling?
Aug 06th 2014
87
      apparently not
Aug 06th 2014
88
           I didn't catch that. Yeah, just get a Hyper 212 Evo
Aug 06th 2014
89
                Hyper 212 Evo doesn't fit in the case
Aug 06th 2014
90
                     overclocking?
Aug 06th 2014
91
                     i don't plan on overclocking
Aug 07th 2014
93
                     are you sure? i have a similarly sized case and my 212 fit easily
Aug 07th 2014
92
                          the case supports 160mm
Aug 10th 2014
94
DONE
Aug 25th 2014
95
Nice!
Sep 12th 2014
96
i can't imagine why i would
Sep 12th 2014
97
      haha so now it starts
Sep 13th 2014
98
That case is nice, i was contemplating the red one until i went with the
Sep 16th 2014
101
i was gonna get the R4
Sep 17th 2014
109
That joint is sexy, man
Sep 16th 2014
104
      yeah i wanted a joint that looked good but didnt break the bank
Sep 17th 2014
108
Good stuff. Now get a real keyboard
Sep 15th 2014
99
this cheap POS i have now doesn't even have lights
Sep 16th 2014
100
Yeah, that's not a good look
Sep 16th 2014
102
Hahaha...mine neither
Sep 16th 2014
105
i copped a logitech g710+
Sep 17th 2014
106
      i can't go that hard
Sep 17th 2014
107
           if you use it all the time it's worth the extra money
Sep 17th 2014
110
                yeah i just use Adobe shit
Sep 17th 2014
111
                     Trust me. You type on one, You'll want one
Sep 17th 2014
112
I might need to do this
Oct 21st 2014
113
i wish i'd have gotten a mobo with graphics
Oct 21st 2014
114
      Depends on what you're doing
Oct 21st 2014
115
           i wasn't saying don't get dedicated GPU
Oct 22nd 2014
116
So I'm going to do this.
Dec 28th 2015
117
Careful if you're going to copy his specs
Dec 28th 2015
118
yeah, like a week after i built it a better processor became available f...
Dec 28th 2015
119
Wow...didn't even see how old this was
Dec 28th 2015
121
here's what i actually built
Dec 28th 2015
120
Cool
Dec 28th 2015
122
      i can run a well optimized games at max
Dec 29th 2015
123
           If I can also recommend something
Dec 29th 2015
124
                $1500
Dec 29th 2015
125
                     man you can cop something really nice for that
Dec 29th 2015
126
                     Ha. This is a cost cutting move.
Dec 29th 2015
127
                     here's somewhat of an updated version
Dec 29th 2015
128
                          Thanks.
Dec 29th 2015
129
                               i7s are eons faster
Dec 30th 2015
135
I've heard 2K on PC is trash, but I really don't know how it is these da...
Dec 29th 2015
131
      i wouldnt say 'trash'
Dec 29th 2015
132
      visually it looks on point.
Dec 29th 2015
133
      2k15 was fine. i think the previous versions were low quality ports
Dec 30th 2015
134
           ah, makes sense, especially with how the new consoles are basically PCs
Dec 31st 2015
137
Definitely going over that list when I get home
Dec 29th 2015
130
theres a Newegg warehouse here
Dec 30th 2015
136
I suppose one question is how long are you keeping the rig?
Jan 08th 2016
138
Happy to report mine is fine too
Jan 13th 2016
141
Here's the Skylake build I came up with:
Jan 13th 2016
139
is this just for gaming?
Jan 13th 2016
140
      I think quad would be OK for basic editing. i7 would be better though
Jan 15th 2016
142
Thinking of building a desktop PC...
Sep 06th 2019
143
Them links didn't work for me
Sep 06th 2019
144
Thanks for the heads up.
Sep 06th 2019
146
Working links
Sep 06th 2019
145
I sitll think Microcenter kind of rocks this
Sep 09th 2019
147
Thanks for the suggestion.
Sep 10th 2019
149
Logical Increments is a good guide
Sep 09th 2019
148
      Thanks.
Sep 10th 2019
150

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1. "Why not get the Core i7 4770k for another $80 dollars?"
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Microcenter has a bundle with the ASRock motherboard for $399.

I'm actually putting one together next week to replace a 4 year old Dell 435t.

I'm leaning this way:
Intel Core i7 4770K 3.5GHz Socket LGA 1150 Boxed - $279.00
ASRock Z87 Extreme4 Socket LGA 1150 Z87 ATX Intel -$119.00
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3-1600 PC3-12800) -$54.99
OCZ Technology ZT Series 550 Watt ATX Modular Powe - $74.99
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition ATX Mid Tower Computr - $34.99 ($19.99 after rebate
ASUS GTX660-DC2O-2GD5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 - $209 ($189 after rebate)
That runs about $830 right there.

I think a 128GB SSD is plenty big, so think another $99. More ram might be neccessary later, but it's easier to add.

I have a Bluray burner and about 5GB of disks I can use.




(I have the case in a PC in the back room and I like it, but I might go for a larger tower.)

>and i'm not 100% sure what i'm doing. i'm gathering a list of
>parts. trying to do some price shaving. this mostly for high
>end graphic work and video editing and A LOT of multitasking.
>unfortunately there's no microcenter in TN
>
>$1500 budget
>
>PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y
>Price breakdown by merchant:
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y/by_merchant/
>Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y/benchmarks/
>
>CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99
>@ Microcenter)
>CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler
>($30.99 @ Newegg)
>Motherboard: ASRock H87M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
>($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
>Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
>($108.89 @ NCIX US)
>Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @
>NCIX US)
>Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal
>Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
>Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 3GB Video Card ($233.98 @
>Newegg)
>Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower
>Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
>Case Fan: Noctua NF-P12-1300 54.4 CFM 120mm Fan ($22.99 @
>NCIX US)
>Power Supply: Rosewill 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @
>Newegg)
>Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @
>Outlet PC)
>Speakers: Creative Labs A220 9W 2.1ch Speakers ($25.56 @
>Amazon)
>
>Total: $1120.32
>
>(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when
>available.)
>(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-14 19:20 EDT-0400)

  

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3. "these prices are misleading."
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When I copy/pasted it threw up micro center numbers instead of Amazon numbers. All the microcenter deals are in-store only apparently.

  

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9. "Yeah, they were in-store only"
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I put this together at Microcenter:

035436 SAMSUNG E 120GB SSD 840 2.5 SATA 3S - 79.99
583369 INTEL BOX INTEL CORE I7-4770K - 279.99
614818 ASROCK Z87 EXTREME6 ATX 1150 - 129.99
251900 IPSG LG 24X DVDRW SATA OEM - 15.99
211334 CRUCIAL 8GB 4X2 D3 1600 DIMM CL9 - 52.99
190306 CORSAIR 750W CXMOD 80+BRZ ATX PSU - 74.99
497818 THERMALTAKE V3 BLACK GAMING CHASSIS - 34.99
Subtotal » $668.93 Tax » $53.51 Total >> $722.44

Plus there are two rebates:
Rebates: Corsair PS : $10.00
Case: $15.00


Then I added a GTX 660 from Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660:
1 x ($209.99) ASUS GTX660-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $209.99
1 x ($49.99) NVIDIA Coupon Metro: Last Light $49.99
1 x ($-21.00) DISCOUNT FOR PROMOTION CODE$-21.00
1 x ($-49.99) DISCOUNT FOR AUTOADD #85654$-49.99
Subtotal: $188.99
Tax: $14.17
Shipping and Handling: $0.00
Total Amount: $203.16

There's a $20 rebate on the video card.

I used an existing mouse and keyboard and added a 500GB drive I had laying around. (And using a old copy of Windows 7 I have.)

So at the end I'll have spent $925.60 out of pocket and I'll be getting back $45 in rebates (assuming I fill everything out perfectly and they don't lose it, or mess with me in some way.)

Or go with a Dell. The Dell's not a bad deal actually considering the case looks nice, and you get a year of support.

  

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66. "I swapped my case for this one"
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Thermaltake Chaser A31 VP300A1W2N Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133212

$65.00 after rebate.

I think I'm officially done.

  

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2. "have you thought about AMD?"
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all my PCs have been AMD for the last 10-12 years and i have nothing bad to say. comparable cpus are cheaper than the intels. just a thought. might save you a little bit of money, but i see that you are below your budget anyway.

>and i'm not 100% sure what i'm doing. i'm gathering a list of
>parts. trying to do some price shaving. this mostly for high
>end graphic work and video editing and A LOT of multitasking.
>unfortunately there's no microcenter in TN
>
>$1500 budget
>
>PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y
>Price breakdown by merchant:
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y/by_merchant/
>Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y/benchmarks/
>
>CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99
>@ Microcenter)
>CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler
>($30.99 @ Newegg)
>Motherboard: ASRock H87M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
>($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
>Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
>($108.89 @ NCIX US)
>Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @
>NCIX US)
>Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal
>Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
>Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 3GB Video Card ($233.98 @
>Newegg)
>Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower
>Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
>Case Fan: Noctua NF-P12-1300 54.4 CFM 120mm Fan ($22.99 @
>NCIX US)
>Power Supply: Rosewill 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @
>Newegg)
>Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @
>Outlet PC)
>Speakers: Creative Labs A220 9W 2.1ch Speakers ($25.56 @
>Amazon)
>
>Total: $1120.32
>
>(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when
>available.)
>(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-14 19:20 EDT-0400)

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4. "recommendations?"
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13. "wouldn't suggest AMDs for video editing work."
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the money spent on Intel would be worth it.

  

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53. "What's your experience with 'em been?"
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Serious question. I'm an AMD head, but deal just in audio processing/editing, and they've always been tops for me in that capacity. Less so for video?


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5. "i'm not sure that gfx card is designed for video editing"
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maybe you should look at the "professional graphics cards" on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Professional-Graphics-Cards/SubCategory/ID-449. apparently there is some difference. i know "professional" graphics cards aren't ideal for gaming and i think the converse holds true as well

that psu seems like it's a bit underpowered. i would go for 450W minimum

everything else looks like it's ok. generally speaking you want to spend the most money on the most important parts of your build: gfx card, processor, and mobo. spend as much as you can on those and skimp on everything else. the case doesn't really matter too much. i have a $30 case (on sale + rebate) that is whisper quiet. ram is dirt cheap; you can probably skate by with 8GB now and pick up the other 8 later (unless it's crucial for editing )

  

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6. "Logical Increments Guide:"
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http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Don't skimp on the power supply, and make sure it's modular. You'll appreciate this in the long run when you don't have to deal with cables being a mess. The modular Corsair and Seasonic units tend to be the most reputable.

I'd get a Z87 since you'll be able to overclock if you need to, and they just have more features in general.

I'd also go with a Samsung 840 Pro (or if you can still find an 830) instead of the regular Samsung 840.

bearfield is right about the GPU. Gaming GPU quality doesn't necessarily translate over to graphical work (e.g., CAD).

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7. "gaming is secondary for me"
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8. "Why not just get a Dell then?"
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The Haswell Dells are about $750 right now.

They includes Windows 8, but you can always get Windows 7 for it.

Add a GTX 660 and an SSD and you're done.

Coupon code: 0H9Q3PQ6L3744C takes $50 off.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-8700/fs

So for $750 your get:
4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4770 processor (8M Cache, up to 3.9 GHz)
8GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz - 2 DIMMs
AMD Radeon™ HD 7570 1GB GDDR5
Windows 8, 64-bit, English
NEW XPS 8700
XPS 8700, Black Chassis
16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW), write to CD/DVD
1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 6.0 Gb/s
Dell Wireless 1703 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0
Integrated 7.1 with WAVE MAXXAudio 4
Dell KB213 Wired Multimedia Keyboard, US-English
Dell Laser Mouse

  

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10. "its still gonna be $1200"
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once i get the ram, ssd, and video card
and i wont be any wiser at building a computer from scratch

  

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11. "If you are not gaming you should just stick with a Haswell IGP"
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The new Haswell Pro cpu's have a very decent Intergrated Graphics chip built into it that will allow you to play a ton of games at medium settings. Stuff like Crysis and Metro would have to be low or may not play at all but you have the option of adding the card later
Will knock a chunk of change off the price.

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12. "i'm not gaming primarily but its still a workstation"
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for high end graphics and animation
possibly making games

  

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14. "Video Guys has a few reccomended builds"
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they're a little pricey, but some modifications can be made, and this also gives a good view of what a machine "should" look like:

http://www.videoguys.com/Guide/E/Videoguys+System+recommendations+for+Video+Editing/0x4aebb06ba071d2b6a2cd784ce243a6c6.aspx

  

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15. "made some small tweaks to my list"
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i like that a lot of stuff is jibing with my og list and the advice i'm getting
thanks

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/17oJ8

i'm still on the fence about the i7
i know i said my budget is $15, but i'm really tryin to swing for $11 i guess

  

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16. "Looks good. I almost never recommend an i7"
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but that's because most of the time it's gamers that want it for no real reason. If you're doing video rendering and the like, then an i7 would actually be a good investment.

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17. "aight. how about this"
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/17KFI

hmm

  

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18. "That's a beastly build"
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I see that the price jumped up quite a bit. Since that 670 is $360 + $10 shipping, why not just go for one of the new 770s that just came out that are like $400? They perform even better than the high end 680s that came out last generation.

I was going to ask why you weren't going AMD for your GPU, but I remembered that there are driver issues for stuff like Photoshop.

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19. "I found this on GAF. Check it out and hope it helps."
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http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=509570

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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20. "managed to scrape some change off "
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i do worry about my cooling options with this video card now, tho
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/184un

  

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21. "What OS are you using?"
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No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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23. "W7"
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64-bit

  

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22. "I live across the street from microcenter"
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Iitterally
New to the area and didn't know what it was
I'm from cali and always head to fry's

If you wanna get some instore deals let me know.

I'm leanin toward a similar route as you with that i7 4770k, 16gb ram and 128gb samsung 840 ssd.
The ssd can be had on amazon right now for $89 direct from amazon.

My machine will be used to do stats analysis on 0.1-0.7TB datasets
And wifey does graphic design and she needs a new machine too and I didn't want to have to buy two boxes.
I need more cpu power than her and she needs better graphics than me.

Also, I need to meet clients in their office and do stuff on the fly sometimes so I'm thinking about setting up my own personal rdc/vpn so I can access my data and run analysis remotely.
Anyone done this on a household not corporate level?
How difficult is this to setup amd keep secure?

I used to just run with my laptop amd either a usb hdd drive or small analytic datasets on thumbdrive.

I run sas which don't do so well in bootcamp so macs ain't in the picture.

  

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25. "You live in Tustin?"
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>I'm leanin toward a similar route as you with that i7 4770k,
>16gb ram and 128gb samsung 840 ssd.
>The ssd can be had on amazon right now for $89 direct from
>amazon.

You can get the SSD at Microcenter for $79.99 out the door when you buy it with a 4th gen processor.

I built my machine last week with parts from up there.

  

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27. "Nah, Houston."
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>You can get the SSD at Microcenter for $79.99 out the door
>when you buy it with a 4th gen processor.

yeah i saw that.
so, they have a MSi + 4770k bundle for like 339 and then 99 for the ssd then $20 discount so that's $419

orrrr, dell.com has an XPS system with 4770k for $749

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-8700/pd?oc=fdcwgt19b&model_id=xps-8700

and I can just add 128GB ssd for $89 from amazon and be cookin for bout $850
but I want 16GB DDR3-1600 ram to go with it tho
i'm kinda torn on that GTX 660 card.
seems over kill.
maybe get her a lil $100 GPU and be done with it.

  

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24. "I share bearfield's concern"
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I think your video card does not match what you are doing with the machine. If you aren't going to get a professional video card, there is no need to drop $400 on a gaming card since it won't help with your graphics stuff much.

Otherwise, I think you're good. An i7 will be nice since you are doing CPU-heavy work.

>and i'm not 100% sure what i'm doing. i'm gathering a list of
>parts. trying to do some price shaving. this mostly for high
>end graphic work and video editing and A LOT of multitasking.
>unfortunately there's no microcenter in TN
>
>$1500 budget
>
>PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y
>Price breakdown by merchant:
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y/by_merchant/
>Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16t1y/benchmarks/
>
>CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99
>@ Microcenter)
>CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler
>($30.99 @ Newegg)
>Motherboard: ASRock H87M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
>($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
>Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
>($108.89 @ NCIX US)
>Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @
>NCIX US)
>Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal
>Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
>Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 3GB Video Card ($233.98 @
>Newegg)
>Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower
>Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
>Case Fan: Noctua NF-P12-1300 54.4 CFM 120mm Fan ($22.99 @
>NCIX US)
>Power Supply: Rosewill 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @
>Newegg)
>Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @
>Outlet PC)
>Speakers: Creative Labs A220 9W 2.1ch Speakers ($25.56 @
>Amazon)
>
>Total: $1120.32
>
>(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when
>available.)
>(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-14 19:20 EDT-0400)

  

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26. "#20"
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Wed Jun-19-13 03:18 PM by hardware

          

.

  

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28. "Yeah, I read that already, and your list includes a $400 gaming GPU"
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29. "I'm guessing he should be looking at Quadro cards"
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for work stuff.

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30. "IDK WHO TO BELIEVE ANYMORE"
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the video guys i'm asking are telling me i got the right one
i'm also working with 3D so i do need the power

  

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33. "You DO need the power, just different TYPE of power..."
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Think of it like cars,
a tractor trailer needs huge amounts of power to drag all that stuff around, but the power is delivered down low.

a F1 race car needs similar amounts of power but it is "up high".

same power, different specified uses.

This is what I found specifically on GPU:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/335651-33-quadro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4CoFyMaBVA

  

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34. "this is so frustrating"
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i'm gonna game too
i'm trying to split the difference
and this card can.

  

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38. "What is your source of info? I found some..."
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check the benchmark numbers in the table. If I understand this article correctly, these two cards are almost identical, except one is optimized for games and the other 3D professional stuff.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/quadro-fx-4800,2258-10.html


>i'm gonna game too
>i'm trying to split the difference
>and this card can.

  

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39. "that article is from 09, first of all"
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this was one of my sources
http://www.learningdslrvideo.com/new-editing-computer-build/
and this http://www.videoguys.com/Guide/E/Videoguys+System+recommendations+for+Video+Editing/0x4aebb06ba071d2b6a2cd784ce243a6c6.aspx
aside from a couple friends
and nukka

  

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40. "are you doing 3D graphics? Like Maya or 3D Studio"
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>this was one of my sources
>http://www.learningdslrvideo.com/new-editing-computer-build/
>
>aside from a couple friends
>and nukka

  

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41. "yep"
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42. "That guy is making a rig for video and photo editing, no?"
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Those barely use a video card at all. Mostly CPU. 3DS and Maya (as well as CAD and other 3D stuff which is what I work in) have vastly different GPU requirements. I believe the numbers in the article I posted are relevant to this.

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43. "oh i see"
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I gotcha

  

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44. "what about this?"
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133483

  

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45. "RE: what about this?"
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>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133483

I think that is more like what you would need. My line of thought overall is -- do you want a 3D workstation that can do some gaming, or a gaming rig that can do a little bit of 3D work?

Did you look at the benchmark table? The numbers are pretty staggering in favor of the Quadro. And you can look up youtube vids of Quadro cards running 3D games, they do ok.

I can't speak on individual Quadro cards, honestly, but I will bet that a $400 Quadro will do worlds better 3D work than a $400 gaming card. I use a Quadro 5000 here at work and it works well, but I don't have anything else to compare to.

Please don't make a purchase based on my thoughts, though...just use this discussion to do some research and find out what you need.

  

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46. "yeah this has helped sort out a bit of confusion"
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i didnt really realize video editing had such trace bearing on video card performance
its not like i'm gonna be playing Crysis anyway

i'd opt for the 600, but i want longevity. i'd outgrow the 600 faster than the 2000

  

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47. "Yeah. Depends on the type of video editing."
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I think a Quadro would still help something like video editing in Premiere, but the Maya/3DS stuff is where you get the big benefit.

Please let us know what your research reveals. I'm curious.

>i didnt really realize video editing had such trace bearing
>on video card performance
>its not like i'm gonna be playing Crysis anyway
>
>i'd opt for the 600, but i want longevity. i'd outgrow the 600
>faster than the 2000

  

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50. "i'm leaning Quadro"
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its looking like i'm gonna be doing a lot more 3d stuff
and animation in AE
so yeah

  

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31. "That Fractal case is lovely son"
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I've got the Gunmetal one. Love the look, and it does stay relatively quiet. And it looks badass in white, so there's that. For the fans you can move the rear case fan to the front panel, so you have 2 140mm fans as intake, and have either a 120mm or 140mm in the rear for exhaust. Remove the middle drive cage and airflow will be fine inside. If the video card starts getting warmer than you like, just ass a fan in the bottom of the case (or the side, if you're not getting the windowed R4)

I do like the latest list on your PCPartsPicker though. The Hyper212 is a great bang for the buck cooler, and I'm glad to see the PSU was upgraded as well (Rosewill is the NewEgg house brand. Some things I'd rather pay a little more for a name brand. The PSU is one such things). Your HDD and memory will likely change depending on what's on sale at the time you buy. Honestly, you can probably get at least a 2TB drive for close to or a bit more than that Blue Cavi.

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32. "Newegg just posted some great Haswell + Mobo combos."
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For example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1352789

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1352792

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35. "i think i'm gonna stick with Ivy Bridge"
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too rich for my blood

  

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36. "the cpu + mobo you posted in the last one was $550?"
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37. "its actually cheaper"
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these priced the boxed ones online
i can get those cheaper oem at a brick & mortar out here

  

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48. "Damn I came into this post late."
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Fuck it my advice is as good as anybody elses even tho it's late.

Graphics/2d/3d/etc: Don't bother with a gaming card.

If you want to do a bit of gaming, some of the Firepros are okay and then it'll still handle really good content creation stuff.

i'm out.
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49. "i want to build a hackintosh..."
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--
Sometimes you have to look reality in the face and say 'No!'
-Ben (Reaper)

  

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51. "Built one, but i'm bipolar with my system tho...One week"
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the hackintosh is running strong, next Ubuntu, next win7, Last weekend I tried the Win 8.1 preview, but was back on Ubuntu 13.04 by Sunday.

More than likely, I'll stick with Ubuntu and virtualize my Windows stuff but my hackintosh
is fast as hell.


http://www.twitter.com/steelysteel

  

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52. "Really easy nowadays."
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I used to run one with no issues, but I switched over to Windows last year. I was too limited software-wise on OSX, and vital software for me like Office and work software (e.g., SPSS, Stata, SAS) all run better on Windows.

If I ever wanted to run OSX on a non-laptop machine, I'd always build one. Desktop/workstation Mac? Never again.

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Soon
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54. "As an upgrade I'm looking at one of those GTX 660s."
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Haven't decided on the 2GB vs 3GB as I'm a gamer lite but still want some horsepower under the hood.


My GTX 285 seems to be pretty completely crapping out in 3D applications though. Someone gave it to me a while back so I'm not that salty, but I only got to run it for a while. Oh well.


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55. "I think GB of GPU memory is overrated for gaming"
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It's usually not worth the extra cost to go from 1GB to 2 or 2 to 3. Not sure how it affects 3D design programs, though.

  

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62. "That's kind of what I was thinking."
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The performance of the GTX 285 has been everything I could ask for up until it's started crashing the driver so often as to be useless, and it's a 1GB card with architecture that's hardly new by this point.


Before I pull the trigger, though, I'm going to test things on my old 9600 to make 100% sure the driver crashes *are* the hardware and not a software bug. But assuming so, I'm pretty sure I'll stick with the 2GB variety since I'm just a dabbler in other uses for the card.


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Steve O Tron v2
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65. "For gaming, I'd actually recommend at least 2 (more like 3)"
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if you're playing at high resolutions (e.g., 2560x1440) or with multiple monitors.

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103. "I went with 2, max res 1920x1080. I'm gamer lite."
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Reason for it is I run an entry-level monitor, and that's its max res.


But for me? It's beautiful. Gorgeous. And I'm running all manner of things at max or near-max settings and loving it. And photography/videos are magnificent to see with this combo, for me.


It's been a total, full win thus far.


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56. "Windows 7 Pro on sale"
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$99 @ Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=0TiFnujcEeKHuIbrTeAH1wyMO1_y88d3_y3O_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16832116992&cm_sp=

Enter "EMCXNXL97" with no quotes as promo code at checkout.

Brings it down to $79.99

  

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57. "me too."
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WE9WQO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1373689847&sr=8-1&pi=SL75

Just bought the first part.

*poof*

  

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58. "I'd like to build an in inexpensive "
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gaming pc around the size of a mac mini (would rather have that but don't really feel switching between the OS's and prolly need a little more graphics.

The offspring :-D

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59. "Define "inexpensive.""
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*******

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61. "500-800 dollars"
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with the exchange rate that isn't that much for me. I don't want to spend 1000 though.

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63. "RE: 500-800 dollars"
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if you shop around, you could build an i5 with a mid-to-high video card and SSD for $800.

>with the exchange rate that isn't that much for me. I don't
>want to spend 1000 though.

  

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"thanks"


  

          

now I at least have an idea. Starting to piece things together.

The offspring :-D

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67. "thanks"
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now I at least have an idea. Starting to piece things together.

The offspring :-D

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60. "put a number to your budget....otherwise discussion is moot"
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>gaming pc around the size of a mac mini (would rather have
>that but don't really feel switching between the OS's and
>prolly need a little more graphics.

  

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64. "www.reddit.com/r/buildapc"
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http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme

Check those two links every day for a couple weeks and you should be in a much better position. I'd say read all the sidebar info in both, but let the great unwashed nerd hordes do the heavy lifting for you.
________________
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68. "^^^ Fantastic resources ^^^"
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Even if you already have a PC, they're also great for troubleshooting issues

  

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69. "Check the Tom's guide, too. It's updated quarterly. link"
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it will line you out with good options based on your budget.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mini-itx-build-it-yourself-overclocking,3510.html

  

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70. "just got back from putting this together at microcenter"
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http://i41.tinypic.com/16kvwy8.jpg

As stated before I do heavy number crunching of large files 4GB to 140GB but may have to merge 3 to 5 of those 140GB files.

The wife will use for this box as well for graphic design (no 3D stuff tho) using Photoshop.

  

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71. "Skimped on the PSU I see. And no video card?"
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Otherwise, cool specs. Planning on getting a cooler for the CPU at some point?

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72. "im not overclocking so he said no need for 750w PSU"
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>Planning on getting a cooler for the CPU at some point?

i could get by with a green monochrome screen and my wife doesn't do Pixar/Dreamworks level graphic design so we dont *need* a GPU.

salesman said these 4770k chips run REALLY hot so the box i got has two fans already but space for an additional 3 fans and i plan on having this thing run as cool as possible.
caveat being i had an workstation in my office that sounded like a 747 being fired up when i turned it on.
and it also blew hot ass air around the room like jet engine exhaust.

  

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73. "FYI, Inland PSUs get pretty shitty reviews out there. I've got one."
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And it's apparently possible that my Inland 600W PSU runs at an efficiency rate comparable to a higher-quality 400W one.


So if this build is stable, sweet. But if it's not for some reason, the PSU is probably where you'll want to start for troubleshooting.


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74. "Not even about a high watt PSU either"
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You can get a 1000w PSU that costs the same as a good 500w PSUna dit will probably go bad much quicker (assuming it's even making the clamed 1000w in the first place.

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75. "Spec'd, ordered...and built. "
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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($195.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($444.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $65.00)
Other: Corsair CX Series CX600M 600W ($64.99)
Other: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 - 1600 ($69.99)
Total: $1108.93

Reused the SSD I had in my laptop and a 24" 1080p monitor--everything else is new. A 4GB 770 is overkill for a single 1080p monitor, but I paid the premium for future-proofing. The new consoles are packing as much as 8GB of GPU memory, and I expect the ports that eventually come over should benefit.

The build was a little nerve-wracking, being a TOTAL noob, but I got through it with barely any mistakes. The HDD actually isn't registering, and I need to figure out why, but right now I'm too damn happy with the rig to bust it open again.

Coming from 4 years of laptop gaming, this thing is amazing. Getting that first dialog box about Skyrim auto-detecting graphics quality and then seeing the word "Ultra"....damn near brought a tear to my eye.

Anyway, I'm about to turn off my cell phone and lock myself up with some Bioshock: Infinite this weekend. I've avoided every single Infinite post on the internet until I got this rig built, and I'm glad I made the effort. I played the first 30 minutes last night and was blown away by the spectacle of it.

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76. "Welcome to the club."
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Now check here periodically:

http://www.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/

And watch your backlog grow, haha

  

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77. "!!!"
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>Now check here periodically:
>
>http://www.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/
>
>And watch your backlog grow, haha

GOG sale!

  

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78. "I just went from "WTF is GoG?" to "There goes $20" in a flash"
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Trine
Giana Sisters
Strike Suit Zero
Unmechanical

All look pretty tight to me. Anyone played any of them?

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79. "i'm hovering over Strike Suit Zero. been wanting that for a while"
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that and Tiny & Big

man. i dont wanna spend it, but i've been waiting for SSZ FOREVER
i have Trine and Trine 2. those are worth it.
2 is more worth it if you want online multiplayer

  

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Jayson Willyams
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80. "Just pulled the trigger. $21 and change for all 4."
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I wonder if I will ever play any of them. I would like to think so.

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81. "very nice. Good values"
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>CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99
>@ Microcenter)
>Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
>($195.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
>(Purchased For $0.00)
>Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal
>Hard Drive ($67.99 @ Microcenter)
>Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($444.98
>@ SuperBiiz)
>Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower
>Case (Purchased For $65.00)
>Other: Corsair CX Series CX600M 600W ($64.99)
>Other: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 - 1600 ($69.99)
>Total: $1108.93
>
>Reused the SSD I had in my laptop and a 24" 1080p
>monitor--everything else is new. A 4GB 770 is overkill for a
>single 1080p monitor, but I paid the premium for
>future-proofing. The new consoles are packing as much as 8GB
>of GPU memory, and I expect the ports that eventually come
>over should benefit.
>
>The build was a little nerve-wracking, being a TOTAL noob, but
>I got through it with barely any mistakes. The HDD actually
>isn't registering, and I need to figure out why, but right now
>I'm too damn happy with the rig to bust it open again.
>
>Coming from 4 years of laptop gaming, this thing is amazing.
>Getting that first dialog box about Skyrim auto-detecting
>graphics quality and then seeing the word "Ultra"....damn near
>brought a tear to my eye.
>
>Anyway, I'm about to turn off my cell phone and lock myself up
>with some Bioshock: Infinite this weekend. I've avoided every
>single Infinite post on the internet until I got this rig
>built, and I'm glad I made the effort. I played the first 30
>minutes last night and was blown away by the spectacle of it.

  

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spenzalii
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82. "Good stuff there buddy"
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Should do you good for a long time there. Another person with a Fractal case too. Really love mine, especially with the windowed panel

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83. "UPDATE"
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finally getting parts in
here's the list i scaled down for money reasons

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RrHwyc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RrHwyc/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card (Purchased For $112.00)
Case: BitFenix Neos White/Purple ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $59.32)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $34.99)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit) ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $722.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-01 14:59 EDT-0400

so here's a question

i'm getting an ssd for the os, adobe, and steam
would you get a 1-2tb hdd for rendering and files
or a 500gb dedicated for rendering and an external for files?

  

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Steve O Tron v2
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84. "RE: UPDATE"
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Do you need those files on the non-SSD to be portable at all?

If not, go with a single internal HDD since the SATA connection will be much faster than USB 2 or 3.

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85. "I'd do the single internal drive."
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The rendering won't adversely affect the life of the HDD, and frankly, you'd want to set up a backup for your files regardless of which drive they're on. Plus, the rendering will take up your CPU, so doing operations on a separate drive would still be inconvenient (unless you expect to be doing things with it on another machine a lot).


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86. "looking at my post today, idk what i was thinking"
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since yeah, rendereing on the main hdd won't harm it

i have an external for backup no so idk wtf i was talking about. i guess i was still in the mindset of life before affordable ssds

  

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87. "do you think you really need liquid cooling?"
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could probably shave a couple bucks by going with a really nice fan.

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88. "apparently not"
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ran it by a couple other people and managed to shave $30 to put toward a monitor or something

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/dochardware/saved/qGBhP6

  

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89. "I didn't catch that. Yeah, just get a Hyper 212 Evo"
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Wed Aug-06-14 07:12 PM by Steve O Tron v2

          

or something like that.

On the PCPartPicker page it says you're buying Windows? And is that the price you're paying? You could probably save a few dollars and get an upgrade version of 8.1 and just do the double install trick. You do an initial installation that can't have the product key authenticated, and then you just do a fresh/clean install over that installation, and the subsequent installation should be able to be authenticated. Not sure if it's worth the trouble for you, but that's what I've done before.

EDIT: So I just found out they don't sell Windows 8.1 upgrade versions. I guess that means if you wanted to do the double-install route, you'd have to do with a version of 8.0 and then do the free upgrade to 8.1 afterwards.

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90. "Hyper 212 Evo doesn't fit in the case"
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i'm still not sure if i need a cooler :/

  

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91. "overclocking?"
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if not, you don't, although it might just be a little louder.

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93. "i don't plan on overclocking"
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at least not right away
if i do, it'd be in a couple years or something

  

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92. "are you sure? i have a similarly sized case and my 212 fit easily"
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my case dimensions: 18.30" x 8.10" x 18.00"

yours: 16.89" x 7.24" x 18.46"

edit: i guess the drive bay layouts/mobo placement on your case could make the 212 not fit

  

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94. "the case supports 160mm"
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the cooler is 159mm
not really cool with 1mm clearance

  

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95. "DONE"
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http://imgur.com/a/H1Mnq#0

everything went smoothly. only screw up was hooking the power button cables to the power LED slots. had a slight hiccup finding drivers for the tablet, but now everything is golden

i guess i watched enough youtube videos

  

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96. "Nice!"
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I find building computers really fun, and I don't do it frequently enough that I ever get tired of doing it.

Now that you've done it once, you'll probably never want to get a pre-built ever again.

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97. "i can't imagine why i would"
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>Now that you've done it once, you'll probably never want to
>get a pre-built ever again.

whenever i get settled, i wanna finally build my dedicated media/steam machine

  

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98. "haha so now it starts"
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>whenever i get settled, i wanna finally build my dedicated
>media/steam machine

This can be amazing too

when you integrate it with your cable so you don't need a cable box anymore and you can have mass amounts of movies and music on tap from one device. It's wonderful.

I've done some crazy things with windows media player and also don't forget plex.

Congrats on building a PC, its a great feeling. You're about to take gaming to another level.

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101. "That case is nice, i was contemplating the red one until i went with the"
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fractal design define r4

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109. "i was gonna get the R4"
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but when i ran across NZXT

  

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104. "That joint is sexy, man"
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The case really is a gamer's chassis though lol...looks kinda like a Cylon's head, and I mean that in an appreciative fashion. I went for a near-silent chassis for my current build (makes sense in a music studio), but have always dug what sorts of gamer designs have been on the front end of the curve.


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108. "yeah i wanted a joint that looked good but didnt break the bank"
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this was the least techy one i could find that wasn't too small for the $70 range

all the other cases looked like appliances or just had a relentlessly nerd, drop shadow using aesthetic.

i went purple cause blue, red, and green just seemed to common
but i had to go cathode rather than LED which is fine. i don't really use em unless i don't feel like turning a lamp on or i just want some mood lighting at my desk

  

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99. "Good stuff. Now get a real keyboard"
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Once you cop a good mechanical, you will never go back

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100. "this cheap POS i have now doesn't even have lights"
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so you don't know if caps lock is on until you start typing

  

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102. "Yeah, that's not a good look"
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I've got a Das Keyboard (blue cherry switches) at work, which I love, and a Razer Ultimate at home, which I like, but don't love. I'm going to get rid of it and cop a Corsair K70, since the gunmetal deck will match the front of my R4 case

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105. "Hahaha...mine neither"
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But mine has decent driver integration, so for most tasks I get an onscreen that alerts me to caps lock and all that.

It was a $4 keyboard at the thrift store and $80 new, wireless, media/hotkeys-heavy, so I'm working with it. But I dream of a dope mechanical keyboard that reminds me of playing the piano or something.


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106. "i copped a logitech g710+"
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for like $120 earlier this year. spilled soda on it a few months in. popped off all the caps, cleaned it. still have a key or two that doesn't click right, luckily they're not ones i use often. wanna say fuck it and cop another but can't justify the purchase.

it's not that bad, just bugs the shit outta me.

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107. "i can't go that hard"
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$30 is my limit on a keyboard
i can't justify it.

  

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110. "if you use it all the time it's worth the extra money"
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kind of like buying a nice mattress or quality cookware

it depends on how much typing and keyboard-based gaming you'll be doing though. if you don't do much of either then stick with the cheap keyboards. i replaced my 5-year old dynex keyboard with a steelseries mechanical keyboard and i think it was worth every penny. i'd rather pay $100 for a good piece of equipment that will last me 10 years than $30 for a low quality one that is only good for 3-5 years

  

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111. "yeah i just use Adobe shit"
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typing on here and chat
and i have a controller for most gaming

so yeah, iont really think i need a crazy one
although i'd take one as a gift

  

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112. "Trust me. You type on one, You'll want one"
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Doesn't even need crazy lights or macro keys either (like I said, I like my Das more than the Razer). Just the tactile feel of the keys when you hit them is all you need to sell you. It is a big price hike from your standard keyboard, for sure, but it's an investment you will not regret

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113. "I might need to do this"
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I love my Mac Pro and my FCPX...but I really don't wanna pay $2900 for a new Mac Pro (plus, I could get away with just ONE graphics processor - heck, most people could - and they don't allow that configuration)

  

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114. "i wish i'd have gotten a mobo with graphics"
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my card drivers had some hiccups so i was having to restart until i figured out it was the GPU drivers crashing

onboard graphics might have been a good fallback

  

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115. "Depends on what you're doing"
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If you're planning on doing any mildly engaging gaming a discrete GPU, even an inexpensive one, is going to be better off than onboard graphics. Both Intel and AMD are making strides (and if you're dead set on going onboard, from a GPU standpoint AMD will do you a bit better in that aspect), but spending as little at $150 (and maybe less than that) on a dedicated GPU would still be a better bet

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116. "i wasn't saying don't get dedicated GPU"
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but if you're doing 3d work, you don't have to totally sit on your hands if you have to do an RMA

  

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117. "So I'm going to do this."
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I thought about it, a lot of the games I want are also available on Steam.

NBA 2K16
Mighty No. 9 (February 2016)
Overwatch (Spring 2016)

But to hear that you built a gaming rig and also do video editing is encouraging. I may duplicate your exact specs. I need to be able to run Adobe CC.

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118. "Careful if you're going to copy his specs"
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That post was from 2013 if that's the one you're talking about.

A lot of that stuff is out dated by today's standards meaning you can get more advanced options for the same price of what he paid for older equipment back then.

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119. "yeah, like a week after i built it a better processor became available f..."
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Definitely update all of this

  

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121. "Wow...didn't even see how old this was"
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Thanks.

Yeah, that's another thing. I'm a console video game guy, but I've been jealous of Steam subscribers for years. This is the route I want to go.

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120. "here's what i actually built"
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https://pcpartpicker.com/b/2FZ8TW

which is wildly out of date. you can def do better than me at that price now

i'm hurting from not getting a bigger SSD and i wish i'd gotten at least a hex core but it more than gets the job done.

  

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122. "Cool"
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When you said "light" gaming, what did that mean?
I'm sure these specs are good enough for Adobe CC,
but I want it to be able to run NBA 2K16 at the max..ha.

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123. "i can run a well optimized games at max"
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half of what i meant was i prefer performance to graphics so i'm not afraid to play on just 'high', the other half was that games i tend to like are never really that demanding. I could probably play Mini Metro and Papa & Yo on a $50 card.

but like i said, you can do waaay better. i got the Sapphire just to get me by. its not like you need more than a 2gb card (neither does CC).

If you go AMD, get the best octocore FX chip you can afford.

also think about a mobo with on-board graphics. hopefully you'll never use it, but its a good fail-safe if a windows update screws up your card driver.

also get an aftermarket cooler. i didn't realize what 'loud' meant

  

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124. "If I can also recommend something"
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For your GPU i'd go with Nvidia.

I used to be all over AMD and now I would never go back AMD again. You'll want a 3gb and up card if you can. If he's trying to run things on ultra he better hope the game is well optimized if not you're going to have to spend to achieve that.

If we get a price range that'll help also.

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125. "$1500"
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Give or take $200 if needed.

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126. "man you can cop something really nice for that"
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At work now but give me a bit and when I get off I should be able to hit you up with some core components.

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127. "Ha. This is a cost cutting move."
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I've been wanting either an XboxOne or a PS4.
I also need a new computer since my Mac Pro just barely misses the requirements
needed for Adobe CC.

I figured, why not get both in a gaming PC?

But yeah, any feedback/suggestions you can offer would be appreciated.
I've watched a few Youtube videos the past week so I _think_ I could install it on my own.
The only part that has me worried is installing Windows 10 and making sure the drivers are all correct.

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128. "here's somewhat of an updated version"
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MVFCNG

comes in around $1020 (you're not gonna send them rebates in)

installing Windows is pretty simple
just make a bootable USB of Windows 10 on another computer and have your key ready

have only the SSD plugged in when you first boot and you're in the bios setting up your drive. when you restart have your bootable usb in and it should start your installation

after its all done, you can turn off the machine, plug in your HDD, turn it on, check and make sure it shows up in the BIOS, enable it in windows and you're good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzr16pxybnI
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129. "Thanks."
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I'm starting to see a consistency in part lists which is helping me learn
what I really need. Other than price is there a big difference between the AMD
and the iCore7?

You're right. I'm not sending that rebate in..ha.
But keeping it under $1K is nice too.

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135. "i7s are eons faster"
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but how bright it shines depends on what you put around it. there's not point if your mobo isnt good, you dont have enough ram, or the write speed to your HDD isn't that great.

AMD has a comparable chip for just about every Intel one. there are definite trade offs for the price, but if you're not editing video or doing rocket science, its a pretty negligible difference, but if you're gaming, you'll see the difference.

There's not very many art pc tutorials out. if you're building a gaming rig, theoretically it should run CC, but it gets confusing when you run into gaming rig tutorials or try and figure out Mac specs. Gaming PCs generally build around the video card. CC however uses CPU power. Adobe does use GPU to render some things in Ai, Ps, and AE like 3d, and some tools like 'rotate canvas', but any 2gb or higher GPU will work. So for this purpose, you should build around the CPU. the higher end Macs use i5 and i7 chips, but the team around them is either propietary or speced down. For an art/gaming rig, if you wanna be cost effective/bottleneck conscious, go for an i5 or equivalent/higher AMD. Also just having CC installed on your boot SDD will make it run blindingly faster, but saving and rendering is gonna be bottlenecked by your HDD(if thats where you save things).

this is a good guide. its what i used initially to understand what i was looking at.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/#!/

  

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131. "I've heard 2K on PC is trash, but I really don't know how it is these da..."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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132. "i wouldnt say 'trash'"
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i'd prefer it on a console tho

  

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133. "visually it looks on point."
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Other than this guy talking about it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skAhd-pjvdE

...I haven't read much on on how it plays.

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134. "2k15 was fine. i think the previous versions were low quality ports"
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https://imgur.com/e4O6kby

  

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137. "ah, makes sense, especially with how the new consoles are basically PCs"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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130. "Definitely going over that list when I get home"
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With a $1500 budget, you can definitely build a rig to last you for quite some time. I love this kind of thing...

Oh, and if you have a microcenter in your area, it would be a godsend. If not, NewEgg, Tiger Direct, Amazon (and Microcenter online) will do you good.

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136. "theres a Newegg warehouse here"
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so whatever i ordered came the next day

downside i had to pay tax, but i could go pick it up if i wanted

  

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138. "I suppose one question is how long are you keeping the rig?"
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WIth the latest Skylake chips hitting the market, Haswell will start fading out and leaves no upgrade potential. On the flip side, you can likely find a pretty stout Haswell chip for a great price (which will drop as Skylake becomes more readily available). If you don't NEED the latest and fastest, that may be a decent choice.

My build is now 2 years old, and my i5 3570K doesn't feel sluggish in the slightest. There's not much I would upgrade at the moment (with the possible exception of my GPU, but even that isn't a necessity)

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141. "Happy to report mine is fine too"
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still running smooth 2 years in.

the only gripe is that i shoulda got the cooler as reccomended. noise is pretty high

that and sometimes my SSD gets a little freezy for a couple hours after a power outage (which doesnt happen often) even with a powerstrip.

  

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139. "Here's the Skylake build I came up with:"
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I kept it pretty close to the original build specs the post started with, just with the latest platform. Biggest gains seem to come with the SSD and the memory, which prices have dropped a good deal for more capacity (16gb of memory is going for what 8gb went for a few months ago). Cases are subjective as much as anything, so I stuck with the Fractal case. While I used a Nvidia GPU for this build, an AMD R9 380X can be had for the same price if you wanted to go with Team Red.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MQwkVn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MQwkVn/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Gaming K4/D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Trion 100 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($233.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.39 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1097.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-13 15:13 EST-0500

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140. "is this just for gaming?"
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why just quad core?

  

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142. "I think quad would be OK for basic editing. i7 would be better though"
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Is the $125 or so jump worth it? Depends

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143. "Thinking of building a desktop PC..."
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My laptop is still moving around alright (12GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Core i5 from 2013) but if my finances allow for it, I'd like to get a solid desktop to do front-end web development / UI design / motion graphics and the occasional FPS game.

I had some time while visiting my dad and created a couple of shopping carts with components for a desktop. My budget is ~$1K +/- $300.

Here are screengrabs of those shopping carts.

Bestbuy.com
shorturl.at/elxRX

Newegg.com
shorturl.at/jmtxK


What do you think?



  

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144. "Them links didn't work for me"
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You should fuck with https://pcpartpicker.com for building your cart if you don't already

  

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146. "Thanks for the heads up."
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Newegg

https://tinyurl.com/y366vo3s

BestBuy

https://tinyurl.com/y43dehzx

  

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147. "I sitll think Microcenter kind of rocks this"
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https://www.microcenter.com/product/601385/b742-desktop-computer

$799 - just add a video card.

Intel Core i7-9700k Processor 3.6GHz
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
16GB DDR4 RAM
500GB Solid State Drive

The PowerSpec B742 desktop computer is a powerful gaming machine featuring the Intel Core i7-9700K Unlocked processor, a 500GB Solid State Drive, 16GB of DDR4 memory, and the ASRock Z390 Pro 4 system board powered by a 600W power supply providing an excellent value loaded platform for your most demanding computing needs! Note: This system is preinstalled with Windows 10 Pro software

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149. "Thanks for the suggestion."
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148. "Logical Increments is a good guide"
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http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Gives you a good sense of what items match specific budgets.

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150. "Thanks."
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