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Do you realize that all the Apple supporters have left? Whether through boredom or not caring or realizing they're wrong, the only one that's saying what you're saying is *you*. Even handle abandoned the fight, because they all show several magnitudes of intelligence greater than you (and I can't believe I'm saying that about Apple). Why? Because they realize Apple's patent crusade is a big waste of time. Money was never Apple's goal in this, it was to REMOVE SAMSUNG PRODUCTS FROM THE SHELVES (which they've spectacularly failed at). Apple doesn't need money, and in fact they've hit a new 52-week all time low today because they've got TOO MUCH cash on hand.
Honest question, how old are you? If you were like 16 or 17 this would explain SO MUCH (but I highly doubt that because you started posting here in 2004). You've seriously got the reading comprehension of an 8 year old, and I feel I'm being generous.
>You used it as definitive proof of Apple's alleged malicious >treatment of Android OEMs. You propped them up as impartial >credible sources. Don't get mad when those same sites come >back to haunt you.
What haunting? Did you even read what I wrote? The article you linked isn't even in the same time frame. "Q4" means FOURTH QUARTER. You posted an article from April 7, 2012. I posted links from Jan 24, 2013 (IDC) and Feb 13, 2013 (Gartner). So either you're being willfully ignorant (in which case, fuck you) or you're functionally stupid.
Judging from your posts here and in OKSports (and I'm a Laker fan myself), I'm thinking the latter.
>SFGate is an impartial source. CRY.
Functionally stupid AND can't read. Like I said, SFGate is Apple's own HOMETOWN newspaper. You know Apple is based in Cupertino right? It's like if I posted a Korean newspaper article supporting Samsung... what do you think it would say? Whether or not it's intended, there is still an inherent regional bias.
But you wouldn't understand that. Maybe I should start speaking like a 3rd grader.
>Once again YOU'RE talking about sources. Half your posts link >to Android slurping blogs. Furthermore, this is one of the few >times I've linked an Apple blog. It's real retarded (the word >that describes you) that you talk about idiotic arguments. >This whole post is one big Android fanboy ragefest on your >part.
What about the two critical links that I posted that put up sales figures? Those aren't "Android slurping blogs" (thus reemphasizing that you're a hypocrite).
Regarding IDC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Data_Corporation
"Interactive Data Corporation provides financial market data (financial data vendor), analytics and related solutions to financial institutions, active traders and individual investors. Founded in 1968, Interactive Data is a supplier of financial market data and related offerings. Acquisitions have contributed to Interactive Data’s growth, enabling the company to deliver an increasing range of services, while expanding into adjacent markets and extending its reach geographically."
Regarding Gartner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner
"Gartner, Inc. is an information technology research and advisory firm headquartered in Stamford, Connecticut, United States. Gartner is an information technology research and advisory company providing technology related insight. Research provided by Gartner is targeted at CIOs and senior IT leaders in industries that include government agencies, high-tech and telecom enterprises, professional services firms, and technology investors. Gartner clients include large corporations, government agencies, technology companies and the investment community. The company consists of Research, Executive Programs, Consulting and Events. Founded in 1979, Gartner has over 5,300 employees, including 1,280 in R&D."
These are independent data and research firms, and Gartner is publically traded on the NYSE. But of course you won't understand that, and will keep on saying the exact same things you've been saying "APPLE WON! CRY! 598 million! (lol shifting the goalposts) BLOGSPAM! WAAAH!"
>Dude Apple owned them and it's not even close. I don't know >Samsung's sales and neither do you because they won't release >them unlike Apple.
This is why I think you're 16 years old. Because you think that just because a company doesn't release their own sales figures that those numbers don't exist. Like I said, IDC and Gartner are INDEPENDENT, THIRD PARTY data and research firms. You know, companies like NDP, Consumer Reports, and JD Power? REGARDLESS if companies release things like sales data and consumer surveys that data still exists because OTHER companies compile that data. This is how the world works.
> The Note and Note 2 are apart of my >argument which you cannot refute by the way.
Did you even read your OWN biased article? The sales data was comparing the iPhone 4 and 5 with JUST the Galaxy S3. Neither the Note or Note 2 or any of Samsung's other smartphones were listed. Functionally stupid and the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader? Check and check.
>All iphones sold >not shipped are premium. All of Samsung's smartphones are not. >Let that sink in before you pop shit. Think about like an >adult not an android fanboy.
No shit. I covered this in my last post. 41+ million regular Samsung phones shipped Q4 2012, while 63+ million Samsung SMARTPHONES shipped Q4 2012 (way more than Apple shipped), for a total of 106 million total globally (by far the worldwide leader). This is math... math is our friend, remember? But I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
Also, you know that Apple is looking into making cheaper phones for emerging markets right? Because they're getting fucking slammed? If you actually read the links I provided or the words that I'm typing you would realize that.
Here's an unbiased source:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324391104578230060513922882.html
"Apple Inc. AAPL -1.70% is working on a lower-end iPhone, according to people briefed on the matter, a big shift in corporate strategy as its supremacy in smartphones has slipped.
Apple now faces greater pressure to make the iPhone more affordable. An onslaught of lower cost rivals powered by Google Inc.'s GOOG +1.04% Android operating system are gaining market share.
In the 2012 third quarter, Apple held only 14.6% of worldwide smartphone shipments, down from a peak of 23% in the fourth quarter of 2011 and the first quarter of 2012, according to IDC."
Note the date: Jan 9th, 2013. This is current news, not like your dumb ass link from April 2012.
And hey look at that... per WSJ, Apple's worldwide smartphone sales PEAKED in 2011. Meanwhile, from that same WSJ link:
"Samsung Electronics Co.'s 005930.SE -0.32% share, meanwhile, rose from 8.8% to 31.3% from the third quarter of 2010 to the third quarter of 2012."
So in the THIRD quarter of 2012 Samsung had already long surpassed Apple's ALL TIME peak in smartphone sales. But you wouldn't understand that, because I'm using big words.
>It's not innovation if your customers cannot use it. It's another way to >drive up device cost. Google glass is real and is useable. Touting NFC >for years only to admit it's a complete failure is an L. You won't >acknowledge this because you a fanboy.
LOOLOLOLOLOLOLO WOW. So, first you say "multiple windows is a feature MOST user's can't use. Therefore it's pointless." And now you're backpedalling and changing the goalposts to "It's not innovation if your customers CANNOT USE IT." Wtf is wrong with you, you can't even read what you typed right.
So what is it? It's not innovation if MOST of your users can't use it or if your customers CANNOT use it? (It doesn't matter though, because you're wrong on both counts. But please PLEASE answer this question so I can point and laugh some more).
As for NFC, I will bet you $100 RIGHT NOW (and I fully intend on making this a real bet) that Apple will include it with their next phone. Just like 4G and a larger screen, they will be late to the game. I'm dead serious. I have no issues paying you $100 if NFC isn't on the iPhone 6, but you best believe I plan on collecting if and WHEN I'm right.
>They not the global leader in smartphone sales relative to $12 billion. >Their smartphone market share should be 99 percent if you're spending >$12 billion. I could go in depth but you a fanboy and would only cuban b >it.
LOLOLOLOLOLO CHANGING THE GOALPOSTS again. I wish this debate were in oksports because you would get CRUCIFIED. First we're talking about units sold and now you're talking about "relative to $12 billion"? What's $12 billion? Profits? Gross margins? Revenue? Some number you pulled out your ass that isn't relative to this debate? I vote the latter.
>Samsung has admitted that last year was more of a trend and they expect >sales to decrease in some measure. Therefore, this strategy is >unsustainable and you know it..
AND WTF DOES THIS EVEN MEAN? More shit you're spouting out your ass. Where's your source? I would LOVE to see this. Please post an unbiased source this time, so I can laugh when it doesn't exist. PLEASE PLEASE post a source on this quote.
>The only thing retarded is this post. You've taken L after L after L >after L. You condemned Apple as ruining in the industry using sources >you propped up as impartial. You were partying all through the trial >pre-emptively celebrating Apple's supposed defeat. You had an Android >fanboy's dream list of links on tap. You got even madder when Samsung >lost. I was worried you were going to steal a child's lemonade or >something. This went on forever.
And I notice you conveniently ignore the main point of this ENTIRE 230+ post thread: that Apple never wanted money from Samsung, they WANTED TO REMOVE THEIR PRODUCTS FROM THE SHELVES. Samsung's Galaxy S4 says "HI!!!"
Oh also... So Apple wins $600 mill from Samsung? Great! Now they have even MORE cash to return to shareholders! But they're still getting their teeth kicked in with global sales.
Here's AAPL's stock price:
https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL
You see those two figures in the upper left?
Range 421.90 - 428.20 52 week 421.90 - 705.07
Today's range is 421.90 - 428.20. The 52 week range is from 421.90 - 705.07... this means that TODAY they hit the lowest price in a 1 year range. That disappointing shareholder meeting last week with Tim Cook was another indication that Apple is holding TOO MUCH CASH. Apple doesn't give a flying fuck about more cash, THEY WANT TO REMOVE SAMSUNG's PRODUCTS FROM THE SHELVES. And failed miserably. (Galaxy S4 says HIIII!!!!!)
>You partied prematurely until I correctly pointed out the >inconsistencies in your link.
What inconsistencies? You haven't posted shit about the links I put up from the INDEPENDENT, THIRD PARTY data and research firms with GLOBAL reach. Stop LYING.
>You lost and ethered yourself a long time ago. Before I take off >reminder Samsung copied Apple, THEY LOST, Samsung owes over $598 million >with another set to decide the validity of the claims/possibly impose >more damages, and INNOVATION HAS NOT BEEN STOPPED.
So let me ask you this... what exactly has Apple innovated lately? Because I haven't seen shit in quite some time. Seems like they've stopped themselves, to be honest. Please answer this question too, because uh... I love laughing at you.
So let's recap, shall we? Maybe you can understand if I type like a 3rd grader.
- Apple no likey money! They want to knock all the Samsung phones off the shelves! - April 2012 is BEFORE Jan and Feb 2013! That's old news! - My mommy likes me! When she talks about me, she says nice things even if they're not really nice! - Cherry Coke (Galaxy S3) is different from Coke (Note/Note2)! Even though they're made by the same company! - 4 + 6 = 10 (Samsung phone + smartphone sales = 106mm)! 6 (Samsung smartphone sales) is bigger than 4 (Apple smartphone sales)! - Apple's phones are too much money for the rest of the world! So they want to make them cheap too! - The new Playstation is new and shiny (innovative) even though people can't use it yet!
Did that help? I can dumb it down even more if you need me to.
Also! Don't forget! If you could, please answer these questions that I asked you from above:
- "So what is it? It's not innovation if MOST of your users can't use it or if your customers CANNOT use it? " - "Samsung has admitted that last year was more of a trend and they expect sales to decrease in some measure." WTF DOES THIS EVEN MEAN? - "You partied prematurely until I correctly pointed out the inconsistencies in your link." What inconsistencies? You haven't posted shit about the links I put up from the INDEPENDENT, THIRD PARTY data and research firms with GLOBAL reach. - So let me ask you this... what exactly has Apple innovated lately?
And of course, this one:
- As for NFC, I will bet you $100 RIGHT NOW (and I fully intend on making this a real bet) that Apple will include it with their next phone.
So yeah, keep it coming. I got WAY more shit I can turn around on you. You're in full on stupid mode right now and the shit-eating spiral you've caught yourself in is fucking entertaining to watch.
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