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s_dot_miles
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"Google Nexus Prime bout to shit on iPhone 4S next tuesday"


  

          

http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/

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Well, now that Apple has announced the iPhone 4S, there’s only one other flagship on the horizon that people are eagerly anticipating and that’s the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Codenamed “Nexus Prime,” the Galaxy Nexus is a phone we have scooped on numerous occasions, and now we can paint a complete picture of the device thanks to new information from a trusted source. Here’s what Samsung and Google will unveil next Tuesday:

Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
9mm thin
4.65-inch 1280 x 720-pixel Super AMOLED HD with curved glass
TI OMAP 4460 dual-core Cortex A9 processor clocked at 1.2GHz
1GB of RAM
32GB of built-in storage
5-megapixel camera on the back, 1.3-megapixel in the front
1080p HD video capture support
LTE/HSPA depending on carrier
Wi-Fi a/b/g/n
NFC
1,750 mAh battery
We have confirmed that the Samsung Galaxy Nexus will be a pure Google Experience device without any third-party UI or modifications, so no TouchWiz on this one, guys. Also, one notable feature of Ice Cream Sandwich? The ability to monitor each app’s data usage on the device. Lastly, we’re still hearing that the Galaxy Nexus will be a Verizon Wireless exclusive here in the U.S., so it’s time to check out those contract end-dates if you’re on another carrier and you plan to scoop up the latest pure Google smartphone.

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damn
Oct 06th 2011
1
let's remember, bgr's anon sources also said sprint exclusive iphone 5
Oct 06th 2011
2
to be fair, this is in line with the other tidbits that have leaked.
Oct 06th 2011
4
      problem is, fanboy rumors usually are
Oct 06th 2011
12
           those specs are even better though
Oct 06th 2011
13
                the point is bgr is shit.
Oct 06th 2011
18
                     Were they always so off?
Oct 06th 2011
19
                     true but engadget ran with the same story which is where i saw it
Oct 06th 2011
20
                          how far off could they possibly be or not be?
Oct 06th 2011
27
                               which is exactly why calling the these rumors completely false is dumb
Oct 06th 2011
29
                                    yes, because I said that you fucking idiot.
Oct 07th 2011
43
                                         actually you did but keep calling me a fucking idot and see what happens
Oct 07th 2011
68
                                              I didn't.
Oct 07th 2011
73
                                                   you called them fanboy rumors and said bgr is shit when there is
Oct 07th 2011
75
                                                        didn't say that, and bgr is shit.
Oct 07th 2011
76
                                                        RE: you called them fanboy rumors and said bgr is shit when there is
Nov 06th 2011
215
it's thinner but im not seeing any significantly better specs
Oct 06th 2011
3
meh.
Oct 06th 2011
5
9mm THIN??
Oct 06th 2011
6
I'd be surprised if that wall was built just to be pulled back down.
Oct 06th 2011
7
http://i.imgur.com/muS2B.gif
Oct 06th 2011
8
      No, it's got humps
Oct 06th 2011
9
      who, in god's name, cares?
Oct 06th 2011
21
           Who cares - apparently Samsung does
Oct 06th 2011
23
      thats beautiful design
Oct 07th 2011
46
4.65 inch? WTF?
Oct 06th 2011
10
its 16:9 supposedly with no buttons on the front
Oct 06th 2011
11
      Good to see they're continuing Steve Jobs' war on buttons.
Oct 06th 2011
34
it's a still a samsung phone
Oct 06th 2011
14
It's still a samsung phone that shits on iPhone 4s from a great height
Oct 06th 2011
25
Supposedly those specs are wrong...
Oct 06th 2011
15
RE: Supposedly those specs are wrong...
Oct 06th 2011
16
I posted those already.. from the original site?
Oct 06th 2011
17
is part of the plan with Android 4.0 to eventually get better apps?
Oct 06th 2011
22
I really don't get the quality of apps argument at all.
Oct 06th 2011
24
yeah app for app i dont see big differences
Oct 06th 2011
26
Actually, in terms of total numbers of apps available...
Oct 06th 2011
33
      maybe that's the difference
Oct 06th 2011
36
           And Spotify and Yahoo Fantasy are way better on Android.
Oct 07th 2011
38
                What do you mean by "more robust"?
Oct 07th 2011
79
                     More options, basically.
Oct 10th 2011
104
you really don't see a difference?
Oct 07th 2011
82
      LOL
Oct 07th 2011
83
      LOL!
Oct 07th 2011
84
           I use mail and maps bro. if you need garageband on a phone/tab
Oct 07th 2011
85
                Then you're good no matter what you get
Oct 07th 2011
86
                     I'm better w/ android.
Oct 08th 2011
87
      no i mostly just use browsing, maps and email
Oct 08th 2011
88
no one knows what you're talking about
Oct 06th 2011
28
      you have shitty taste in everything
Oct 06th 2011
31
           blah blah, blah blah blah blah.
Oct 06th 2011
35
4.65-inch? That'll fit perfect in an Android user's purse.
Oct 06th 2011
30
lols.
Oct 06th 2011
32
that's the one thing keeping me from taking it seriously.
Oct 07th 2011
37
lol
Oct 07th 2011
47
Announcement Delayed (swipe)
Oct 07th 2011
39
From the wording....
Oct 07th 2011
41
How is that showing respect?
Oct 07th 2011
48
      Having a competitive product announcement ...
Oct 07th 2011
49
      No announcing a product doesn't seem disrespectful to me
Oct 07th 2011
51
           If someone has to explain this very simple situation to you...
Oct 07th 2011
52
                EXPLAIN IT TO ME - YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!
Oct 07th 2011
53
                     ^ :'(
Oct 07th 2011
54
                     RE: EXPLAIN IT TO ME - YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!
Oct 07th 2011
55
                     Cot damn you are fucking mad.
Oct 07th 2011
56
                          You mean - don't think
Oct 07th 2011
57
                               ^^^ hopeless ^^^
Oct 07th 2011
58
                                    I take it back - this is GREAT
Oct 07th 2011
59
                                         http://kensten.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/digging-a-hole.jpg
Oct 07th 2011
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                                              HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE YOU!
Oct 07th 2011
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                                                   http://www.jhc-cdca.org/images/digging%20latrine%20hole_t.jpg
Oct 07th 2011
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                                                        Now you want Steve Jobs buried in a latrine hole
Oct 07th 2011
63
                                                             Instead of this being a pissing contest to see who gets the last word in...
Oct 07th 2011
65
                                                                  You win
Oct 07th 2011
66
                                                                       Yup. Dense.
Oct 07th 2011
67
                                                                            Again, you have the last word!
Oct 07th 2011
71
      Yup... it's what I was thinking.
Oct 07th 2011
50
I think they're just being shrewd
Oct 07th 2011
80
      Not mutually exclusive.
Oct 07th 2011
81
damn I JUST got an S2 lol
Oct 07th 2011
40
RE: damn I JUST got an S2 lol
Oct 09th 2011
89
psst....it's a curved s2
Oct 10th 2011
101
Screenshot in the wild?
Oct 07th 2011
42
that picture is fake.
Oct 07th 2011
44
      What about the video in the same link?
Oct 07th 2011
45
           oh shit, I thought that was the shitty pic from earlier
Oct 07th 2011
64
                oh shit, you're a fucking idiot.
Oct 07th 2011
70
                     OH SHIT NIGGA
Oct 07th 2011
72
                          you do realize that when you act like a grown ass child that people
Oct 07th 2011
74
                               I'd respond, but I don't know who you are.
Oct 07th 2011
77
                                    and who the fuck are you? faggot ass lil bitch thats who.
Oct 07th 2011
78
                                         lol @ when niggas go at RJCC like this.
Oct 09th 2011
92
                                              he a bitch point blank period and anyone that cosigns him is as well.
Oct 09th 2011
93
                                              lol you just turned into the nigga chewing the banana in belly.
Oct 10th 2011
102
                                                   lol @ you watching and quoting scenes from belly. foh.
Oct 10th 2011
105
                                                   ^^^^^^^
Oct 18th 2011
127
                                              it's like they think they're going to goad me into caring.
Oct 10th 2011
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                                                   nigga you only exist on the internet. no one in real life gives a fuck
Oct 10th 2011
100
                                                        oh the gifs we can use here...
Oct 10th 2011
106
Someone here is really mad their iPhones about to be shit on.
Oct 07th 2011
69
i think people should just use whatever works for them
Oct 09th 2011
90
      Louis CK said it best
Oct 10th 2011
95
           ^^^^sees it.
Oct 10th 2011
110
wrong post
Oct 09th 2011
91
havent heard any prime rumors, but moto droidHD/razr and htc vigor
Oct 09th 2011
94
they bringing back the razr name?
Oct 10th 2011
96
started as 'spyder' but i see the droidHD name as much as the razr name
Oct 10th 2011
108
moto droid 4 coming. so for vz- nexus, razr, revolution 2, vigor, d4
Oct 29th 2011
209
so apple sold 1 million
Oct 10th 2011
98
yup. RDF.
Oct 10th 2011
99
I thought you didn't care about this stuff?
Oct 10th 2011
103
i dont. i just find it funny when ppl make outrageous claims
Oct 11th 2011
114
consider who it's marketed to
Oct 10th 2011
111
      Yeah, lame ass CONSUMERS!!
Oct 10th 2011
113
      so 'shitting on' by the OP meant just in specifications?
Oct 11th 2011
115
           yes. there wont ever be a single android phone that sells more than
Oct 11th 2011
117
5 megapixel camera on the back
Oct 10th 2011
107
megapixels ≠ quality of the camera
Oct 10th 2011
109
basically
Oct 11th 2011
116
^^^not understanding that sensor matters more than megapixels
Oct 10th 2011
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RE: ^^^not understanding that sensor matters more than megapixels
Oct 12th 2011
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      RE: ^^^not understanding that sensor matters more than megapixels
Oct 12th 2011
120
^^^^ bought a 13 megapixel kodak camera because it's better.
Oct 11th 2011
118
Funny how this argument went the other way
Oct 23rd 2011
186
Nexus Prime event back on for the 19th?
Oct 12th 2011
121
Disgusting and disrespectful
Oct 12th 2011
122
      You are a funny person.
Oct 17th 2011
123
Hearsay, but here's a summary of some comments on forums...
Oct 17th 2011
124
Galaxy Nexus images, specs and benchmarks apparently leaked
Oct 18th 2011
125
Comparison: iPhone 4S vs. Samsung Galaxy S II (Video)
Oct 18th 2011
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Sounds like iPhone 4S records audio in a tin can.
Oct 18th 2011
128
Not really live anymore, but a liveblog of the event:
Oct 18th 2011
129
looks like all the rumored specs were correct
Oct 18th 2011
130
Summary from another site:
Oct 18th 2011
131
Matias bringing some of that webos swiping in here
Oct 19th 2011
132
the facial unlock completely failed in the live demo
Oct 19th 2011
133
Yeah, that was a HUGE gaffe...
Oct 19th 2011
135
      my thing is, though...what's the point?
Oct 19th 2011
136
           See: Siri
Oct 19th 2011
137
           people've wanted WORKING voice recognition forever
Oct 19th 2011
141
                And Android's HAD working voice recognition for forever....
Oct 19th 2011
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                     i have an Android phone...the voice reco is so-so
Oct 19th 2011
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                          I agree, it's touchy but useful.
Oct 19th 2011
146
                          siri is def more polished, but i can see the novelty wearing off
Oct 19th 2011
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                          Looks like the face recognition is actually extremely snappy.
Oct 20th 2011
164
           yeah they should have built out a way to send postcards instead.
Oct 19th 2011
138
           LMAO
Oct 19th 2011
139
           that shit is stupid as hell
Oct 19th 2011
142
           BINGO!
Oct 19th 2011
145
           Its just a gimmick to promote the use of the struggling USPS.
Oct 19th 2011
149
           Damn... Apple doesn't even care about security
Oct 19th 2011
140
                Yeah, they should be more like HTC
Oct 21st 2011
172
swiping notifications away is in there too. n/m
Oct 19th 2011
134
We should do a pool for current Android owners
Oct 19th 2011
147
this is another part of the problem
Oct 19th 2011
148
RE: this is another part of the problem
Oct 19th 2011
150
vast majority of people never update their os or dont know how
Oct 19th 2011
151
      yea the OS update thing is just something for nerd niggas to nit pick
Oct 23rd 2011
185
      That's not really true though
Oct 28th 2011
193
I'm down for this
Oct 20th 2011
155
ALL future updates?
Oct 20th 2011
156
Good for all future updates, apart from
Oct 20th 2011
158
      The Apple way
Oct 20th 2011
159
           Like that fucking proprietary port.
Oct 20th 2011
162
lets do a pool for people who are totally in love with ios
Oct 20th 2011
160
C'mon, what do you have an HTC Incredible?
Oct 20th 2011
163
hope the atrix will get the upgrade
Oct 22nd 2011
181
you see this?
Oct 27th 2011
190
      weird how owners of the fantastic ios
Oct 27th 2011
191
           nobody's obsessed
Oct 28th 2011
192
           the problem is it's a completely meaningless chart.
Oct 28th 2011
194
                It's a high-tech discussion board
Oct 28th 2011
195
                     RE: It's a high-tech discussion board
Oct 28th 2011
196
                          lol @ bending over backwards
Oct 28th 2011
197
           you still never said what phone you own and if you
Oct 29th 2011
204
Feeling some of the WebOS like swiping they're talking about
Oct 19th 2011
152
im ready to jump webos ship finally, but i will miss my touchstones
Oct 19th 2011
154
Why the Galaxy Nexus has a barometer:
Oct 20th 2011
157
It warms my cold heart to see all these bitter Apple fans in here.
Oct 20th 2011
161
The parts of this post that aren't about phones:
Oct 20th 2011
165
Excellent article on Matias Duarte...
Oct 20th 2011
166
good read
Oct 20th 2011
167
looks like Nov. 10 on Verizon - $299
Oct 20th 2011
169
im glad matias landed at googs
Oct 20th 2011
168
Chi chi chi le le le!!!
Oct 21st 2011
171
Oct 21st 2011
170
i really am a dick
Oct 21st 2011
173
      Or you could actually see how it works instead of reading about it.
Oct 21st 2011
174
Not be just be a dick BUT the display got at least one and review
Oct 21st 2011
175
Or you can actually analyze the screen versus others.
Oct 21st 2011
176
"way off" is probably a bit of an overstatement
Oct 21st 2011
177
The funny thing is...
Oct 21st 2011
178
      I was talking about the COLOR - not the density
Oct 22nd 2011
183
im not a fan of the amoled plus of the gs2
Oct 22nd 2011
180
Ok... I can definitely get behind aesthetics like this.
Oct 21st 2011
179
ICS to include full device encryption (swipe)
Oct 22nd 2011
182
Too bad it's in Italian, but ICS's browser is SMOOTH
Oct 23rd 2011
184
Time lapse video completely taken with the phone
Oct 26th 2011
187
that shit cray.
Oct 26th 2011
188
wow....that shit was impressive
Oct 28th 2011
198
wait, its not gorilla glass??!
Oct 27th 2011
189
Regarding Android fragmentation...
Oct 28th 2011
199
Another issue is that updates are handled differently.
Oct 28th 2011
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wouldn't they have to open source those apps though?
Oct 29th 2011
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RE: Another issue is that updates are handled differently.
Oct 29th 2011
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this is the part that got me.
Oct 28th 2011
201
Has that been the case with iOS 5?
Oct 28th 2011
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      honestly I haven't heard anything from anyone with a phone
Oct 29th 2011
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      i think iphone 4 upgraded to ios5 was fine
Oct 29th 2011
211
yeah if I payed as much foe those cheap android phones
Oct 28th 2011
203
Nice hands on video review:
Oct 29th 2011
206
A response from Pentile (shoutout to handle)
Oct 29th 2011
210
Looks like I am copping this
Oct 29th 2011
212
Best hands on review I've seen yet.
Oct 30th 2011
213
Looks like Nov. 17 is the day (swipe)
Nov 05th 2011
Looks like Nov. 17 is the day (swipe)
Nov 05th 2011
214
The first reviews are starting up...
Nov 17th 2011
216
No Gorilla Glass? No problem.
Nov 17th 2011
217
And The Verge weighs in with text and video...
Nov 17th 2011
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not sure why they felt the need to rush out that review
Nov 17th 2011
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      It's a new site, so it looks like they're trying to grab clicks...
Nov 17th 2011
220
      yeah the review was even-keeled but it was still annoying.
Nov 17th 2011
221
      They used the phone Samsung gave them to review
Nov 18th 2011
224
NFC tags... holy shit, didn't know this exists
Nov 18th 2011
222
I might be rejoining Android nation. The Galaxy Nexus is the deal
Nov 18th 2011
223

Numba_33
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1. "damn"
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Screen is bigger than 4.5? Gotta wonder what the battery life will be like.

  

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2. "let's remember, bgr's anon sources also said sprint exclusive iphone 5"
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Nopayne
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4. "to be fair, this is in line with the other tidbits that have leaked."
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so it's more plausible, imo.

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12. "problem is, fanboy rumors usually are"
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fwiw, myriam does not think they're accurate.


thinks this is more likely to be true - http://www.gsmarena.com/source_close_to_google_reveals_real_nexus_prime_specs-news-3239.php

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13. "those specs are even better though"
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18. "the point is bgr is shit."
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Nopayne
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19. "Were they always so off?"
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I thought they used to be somewhat dependable.

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s_dot_miles
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20. "true but engadget ran with the same story which is where i saw it"
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so i just posted it from the source. based on the gsmarena source the bgr stuff is not really that far off.

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Rjcc
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27. "how far off could they possibly be or not be?"
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it's all been speculated already.

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s_dot_miles
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29. "which is exactly why calling the these rumors completely false is dumb"
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43. "yes, because I said that you fucking idiot."
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68. "actually you did but keep calling me a fucking idot and see what happens"
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73. "I didn't."
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s_dot_miles
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75. "you called them fanboy rumors and said bgr is shit when there is"
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a real phone out there with the exact specs that bgr reported. bgr is a terrible site with lots of false rumors but they basically got this right.

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76. "didn't say that, and bgr is shit."
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215. "RE: you called them fanboy rumors and said bgr is shit when there is"
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Why are you wasting brain cells by arguing with this idiot?

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3. "it's thinner but im not seeing any significantly better specs"
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i just want the best phone out there... idgaf if its iphone, android or whatever...

You know, we could all be reading a book right now.

  

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5. "meh."
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6. "9mm THIN??"
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Was this written by a human interest story editor?

And is this at the thinnest point or the thickest?

Good that there's no Touchwiz on it - but any word on if Android 4.0 is going open source? Or has Google walled off the garden for good now??

Edit:Carrier exclusive to Verizon.

  

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7. "I'd be surprised if that wall was built just to be pulled back down. "
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8. "http://i.imgur.com/muS2B.gif"
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http://i.imgur.com/muS2B.gif

looks to be pretty thin at all points

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9. "No, it's got humps"
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If the humps are 9mm thick then it's 9mm thick.

Remember the Sii was 8.7mm thick at some points and 9.91mm at others.

  

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21. "who, in god's name, cares?"
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will .5 mm of thickness really be a deciding factor for you?

  

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23. "Who cares - apparently Samsung does"
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Because of the 9mm thin line.

  

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46. "thats beautiful design"
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10. "4.65 inch? WTF?"
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11. "its 16:9 supposedly with no buttons on the front"
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should be about the same height and width as a nexus s

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34. "Good to see they're continuing Steve Jobs' war on buttons."
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14. "it's a still a samsung phone"
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25. "It's still a samsung phone that shits on iPhone 4s from a great height"
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15. "Supposedly those specs are wrong..."
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http://phandroid.com/2011/10/06/earlier-rumored-nexus-prime-specs-were-wrong-these-rumored-specs-are-right-and-better-wait-until-next-week/

Bum bum buuuuummmmm. The universal sound for a dramatic twist or turn in a story. “The story,” you ask? Well I’m talking about rumors earlier today suggesting the Nexus Prime would have a set of spec to die for. Highlights were a 1GHz dual-core TI OMAP4 processor, 1GB of RAM, 32GB of internal storage and more. Here’s the full list of alleged specs:

Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
9mm thin
4.65-inch 1280 x 720-pixel Super AMOLED HD with curved glass
TI OMAP 4460 dual-core Cortex A9 processor clocked at 1.2GHz
1GB of RAM
32GB of built-in storage
5-megapixel camera on the back, 1.3-megapixel in the front
1080p HD video capture support
LTE/HSPA depending on carrier
Wi-Fi a/b/g/n
NFC
1,750 mAh battery

Great, except there’s one little problem. Alongside suggestions that those specs were wrong, GSMArena hears it from their own anonymous trusted inside source who is familiar to the matter that those specs are “completely and utterly wrong.” With that, they provided their own list of the specs they’ve heard this thing will boast.

1.5GHz dual-core Exynos processor
8 megapixel camera with new improved sensor
1080p HD video reccording
2050 mAh battery rated for two days of moderate use without charging
LTE with dual-mode CDMA/GSM radios

Common for both set of specs is the 4.6 inch display with its 720p HD resolution. Moral of this story – wait until next week. Samsung’s going to be taking the wraps off of this thing on October 11th – just 5 days from now – so there’s really no use in getting up in arms about these specs.

Speculation is fun, but as with any rumor none of it is right or wrong until a press release is issued and the device is able to be touched by anyone whose name isn’t “Anonymous Source” or “Source ‘Familiar With’ the Matter.” Let’s move along now.

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16. "RE: Supposedly those specs are wrong..."
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> 1.5GHz dual-core Exynos processor
> 8 megapixel camera with new improved sensor
> 1080p HD video reccording
> 2050 mAh battery rated for two days of moderate use
>without charging
> LTE with dual-mode CDMA/GSM radios
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these specs read like a galaxy s2.

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17. " I posted those already.. from the original site?"
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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22. "is part of the plan with Android 4.0 to eventually get better apps?"
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i'm up for my 2-year renewal. i really don't want an iphone, but my hand is almost forced because the quality of apps on Android are such shit.

i assume the goal with designing 4.0 as "One Ecosystem to Rule Them All" is to make it easier and more welcoming for developers. but i'm dubious...

do y'all think Android apps will ever be able to get anywhere near the level of those on iphone/ipad?

  

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24. "I really don't get the quality of apps argument at all. "
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Like really what does iOS have that's so special?

I got an iPad for 2 weeks just to play around and all the apps are the same shit

I'm about to take it back tomorrow actually because my phone running ginger has all the same shit.

  

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26. "yeah app for app i dont see big differences"
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iOS may have more total apps but as far as ones people actually use there is always an android equal

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33. "Actually, in terms of total numbers of apps available..."
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Android passed Apple a few weeks ago. It's always been a bullshit number though because there's so much shit.

With that said, each platform has all the important, major apps... the only real difference is that the App Store has a way better games selection.

  

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36. "maybe that's the difference"
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i play a lot of mobile games. i could understand if you're only using yelp and facebook and twitter, etc...there's not much difference. but the game selection on Android is pure gutter shit.

but even the same apps...like ESPN Scorecenter. that shit is so much smoother and polished on iphone.

  

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38. "And Spotify and Yahoo Fantasy are way better on Android."
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I can play this game too. When apps are properly optimized for each platform, then there are going to be clear differences. Apple's always had a smoother UI, but (if optimized) Android apps are always going to be more robust.

And yeah, the games selection overall but you'll never see things like emulators on Apple... balances it out a bit for me.

  

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79. "What do you mean by "more robust"?"
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And why are android apps "more robust" than iPhone apps?

  

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104. "More options, basically."
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Using Spotify as an example (one of the best optimized apps I've seen for each platform)... Lots of my playlists are things like "Hip Hop Albums" or whatever genre it is. When I want to listen to a particular album in Android, I scroll to one of the songs in that album, long press it, View Album, then the first song. To do that same thing in iOS, I have to actually play a song from the album, tap the picture, tap the album, then tap the first song. This follows for a number of other apps, since Android allows for long presses and has the Menu/Back buttons as well.

In addition to that, the use of widgets is awesome. Full screen calendars, constantly updating weather/news/stock/etc. widgets, fully customizable settings menus (Widgetsoid), etc... the list goes on. I love the Scoremobile app on Android because it lets me check realtime scores for different sports in seconds.

Also Android is more open, so you get apps like Widgetsoid and Tasker, which are some of my favorite overall apps. Widgetsoid lets you create your own widgets with phone settings; on my homepage, I have one that lets you toggle on/off: wifi, 3G, GPS, flashlight, brightness, sound and master volume controls. And Tasker lets you do anything here:

http://tasker.wikidot.com/profile-index

Some notable ones:


- Auto Respond to Received SMS while driving.
- Start the Day with a Particular Application
- Change Ringtone on Every New Call
- Change Volume Levels during Different Times of the Day
- Keep volume low when using headphones
- Car Locator
- Locate your phone using SMS and google maps
- Auto answer calls when your bluetooth headset is connected
- Automatically Send an "I'll be Home Soon" SMS
- Changing background image depending on current weather (Using HTTPGet)
- Aumatically start / stop your WIFI when you are at home with limited battery use
- Balance wifi usage and data check (Update)
- Automatically change display brightness while plugged in depending on time of day

  

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82. "you really don't see a difference? "
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iannotate or goodreader vs ezpdf?
imovie vs android movie studio?
keynote vs ...?
garageband vs ...?
pages and numbers vs google docs?
note taker HD vs writepad?
djay vs dj studio?
omnifocus vs (i don't know what the best to-do/organization app is for android)
pocketCAS vs CAS for Android or sCALC?

Do you use the iPad for anything besides browsing and email?

  

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83. "LOL"
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84. "LOL!"
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85. "I use mail and maps bro. if you need garageband on a phone/tab"
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then go with god.


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86. "Then you're good no matter what you get"
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Somebody's buying a fuck of a lot of them though, since it's in the top 25 paid apps.

  

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87. "I'm better w/ android."
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

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88. "no i mostly just use browsing, maps and email"
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It wouldve been nice to find a good remote control app for my htpc but the gate has closed.

I'm taking it back today, wasn't worth $500 at all. $200, maybe.

Those things you mentioned are good but I guess I just haven't been traveling enough to need those functions on a mobile platform.

I looked at the djay app and that was pretty nice, but probably not enough for me to keep using iPad.

I mean its cute to show my friends how I can solve differentials or play the keyboard, but if I actually need to do it, I'm gonna find a pc or a real keyboard.

  

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28. "no one knows what you're talking about"
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you notice that gruber hasn't mentioned that bullshit in a while right.

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31. "you have shitty taste in everything"
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so i wouldn't expect you to notice or care.

but iphone apps, in general, have much more design polish. and i work with mobile developers...they all hate working on Android because of the nightmare in dealing with platform/hardware differences.

  

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35. "blah blah, blah blah blah blah."
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what you said isn't true.

thanks.

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30. "4.65-inch? That'll fit perfect in an Android user's purse. "
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32. "lols."
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37. "that's the one thing keeping me from taking it seriously."
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My phone is in and out of my pocket all day. I hated having a huge phone (the HTC).

We living in the slim jean era wtf

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47. "lol"
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39. "Announcement Delayed (swipe)"
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-google-postpone-ice-cream-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus/


Color us a disappointed shade of blue, but it appears that Samsung and Google have decided not to launch the Galaxy Nexus (or Nexus Prime, or whatever it's called) and Ice Cream Sandwich at their October 11th Unpacked event. The two companies sent out a joint announcement reading:
Samsung and Google decide to postpone the new product announcement at CTIA Fall. We agree that it is just not the right time to announce a new product. New date and venue will be shortly announced.
The press event on the 11th was expected to be not only the debut for the successor to the Nexus S, but our first good look at the next version of Android. For whatever reason the companies have decided to delay that launch. But, if Eric Schmidt is true to his word, we shouldn't have to wait too much longer... he did promise us that it would launch by November. We'll let you know as soon as we get a new date to expect "something big."

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41. "From the wording...."
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If the launch itself isn't delayed, it sounds like the announcement was delayed in respect for Steve Jobs.

  

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48. "How is that showing respect?"
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Unless the presentation had lines like "Suck It Steve!" and "The country needs more jobs but phones do not" then I can't see how this would be in anyway a sign of respect.

Can someone explain it to me?


  

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49. "Having a competitive product announcement ..."
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so soon after his passing doesn't seem tasteless to you?

The news was about the product so they kept it about the product, but also stated "We agree that it is just not the right time to announce a new product."

Doesn't seem so complicated.

  

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51. "No announcing a product doesn't seem disrespectful to me"
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Unless the product is a Flesh-light with a picture of Steve on it.


I suspect that the Samsung/Google presentation may have focused on attacking Apple (patents, iPhone 4s as "weak" or "lame") and disrespecting Apple as a bully or an anti-innovator (as their lawsuits with screenshots of 2001 indicate they will.).

And since most people think of Steve Jobs as Apple that they have to retool/rewrite the presentation to focus less on the iPhone and more on their own product.

Because how the FUCK could announcing a phone for Verizon be disrespectful to Steve Jobs any other way??

  

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52. "If someone has to explain this very simple situation to you..."
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then you'll never understand it.

  

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53. "EXPLAIN IT TO ME - YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!"
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It doesn't make any fucking sense.

Is there a Miss Manners column I missed somewhere you can link to?

Is this some well know business etiquette that I missed??? If the past CEO of a competitor dies you must wait 16 days to announce any products that compete in a space with the deceased competitor.

Steve Jobs dies so Samsung/Google can't announce a piece of hardware a week after his death??? It's a phone - it's not a rap song dissing Steve and his family.

Unless the presentation was attacking Steve then I can't see ANY connection between the two events.

Does Samsung/Google think that one October 11th the tech industry press will write about Steve Jobs and not their phone?? Is it about the news cycle and marketing??

Or are all the Samsung/Google executive in fucking mourning?? They can't tell you about the phone through their fucking tears??!!

  

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54. "^ :'("
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55. "RE: EXPLAIN IT TO ME - YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!"
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Maybe it's just what you said, they were going to take shots at Apple during the presentation. And have decided to hold off. Also plenty of those execs had relationships with the guy, it's not that hard to understand.

  

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56. "Cot damn you are fucking mad."
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Fine, I'll humor you... it's easy as 1-2-3

1. Revered visionary, competitive rival and former business partner (to Google) passes away
2. Postpone announcement of directly competitive product launch less than one week later to let people grieve
3. Let people grieve

Don't overthink this.

  

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57. "You mean - don't think"
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I get it now.

Whenever they make the announcement I'll be here to post that they are fucking heartless monsters who should have waited longer.

  

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58. "^^^ hopeless ^^^"
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59. "I take it back - this is GREAT"
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I was supposed to drive my disabled mother to her doctor's appointment at noon today - but I called her and said that I thought it'd be disrespectful for Steve Job's legacy if I did.

So she's taking the bus!!

I feel like Larry David now!!

  

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60. "http://kensten.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/digging-a-hole.jpg"
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http://kensten.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/digging-a-hole.jpg

  

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61. "HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE YOU!"
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STEVE JOBS JUST DIED AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DIGGING HOLES!!!

Have some respect for the dead.

Too soon man. TOO SOON!!

  

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62. "http://www.jhc-cdca.org/images/digging%20latrine%20hole_t.jpg"
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http://www.jhc-cdca.org/images/digging%20latrine%20hole_t.jpg

  

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63. "Now you want Steve Jobs buried in a latrine hole"
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Have you NO SHAME??!?!?!?

Can't you wait at least 19 days to talk like this??

  

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65. "Instead of this being a pissing contest to see who gets the last word in..."
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Are you seriously acknowledging that you cannot understand how delaying a rival product announcement is a show of respect for the passing of an industry giant? Instead of jumping right back into the business fray, it seems rather tactful to allow a mourning period before going back to "business as usual."

I also see that you have conveniently ignored my other post where Samsung *explicitly* stated that the delay was out of respect for Steve's passing. (post #50)

Instead of trying to project yourself into the minds of these people, let's just look at the facts:

- Google and Apple have collaborated on projects before
- Eric Schmidt used to sit on Apple's board
- Steve Jobs passed away a day after the 4S announcement
- The Nexus Prime is a directly competitive rival product to the iPhone 4S
- Product launch keynote speeches typically talk about how your product is better than theirs
- The Nexus Prime announcement was scheduled for a week after the iPhone 4S announcement
- Talking about the rival product so soon after Jobs' passing would very well be received as callous and tasteless
- Whether for business or personal reasons (likely both), Samsung and Google decide to hold off on announcing the Nexus Prime

Is that clear enough for you? Note that there's no need to know what was in the presentation, no need to define rules about "CEO deaths" and timing on product launches, no talk of attacking Steve Jobs in the presentation... none of that. The companies had (and have) close ties, the execs had close ties, and there's no doubt that the passing of Steve Jobs has affected countless people, both big and small. Not even waiting a week after the passing of the face of one of the most iconic companies of all time in order to talk up their competing product is, frankly, tasteless. Samsung and Google didn't have to do this, there are no rules... they *chose* to do this. What's so difficult to understand about that?

Btw, because at this point I have no idea if you truly are this dense or just wish to troll, the pictures were in reference to *you* digging yourself into deeper holes based on your continual mental breakdown and tasteless comments regarding Steve Jobs.

  

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66. "You win "
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You have the last word. Congrats.

I know understand how disrespectful having a product announcement 6 days after someone dies.

Thank god for making it so understandable. The Nexus Prime is certainly a pox on Google and a direct assault on Steve Job's legacy. In fact - it may have been responsible (directly or indirectly) for his death.

It's now my understanding that Google and Samsung can never release a product without pissing onto Steve Job's grave.

P.S. I once worked with a guy who died later. I'm disrespecting him now by even using a computer!!

  

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67. "Yup. Dense."
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71. "Again, you have the last word!"
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Good for you - you are a winner.

  

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50. "Yup... it's what I was thinking."
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Update to the original article:

Update: A Samsung spokesperson issued a follow up statement to CNET, confirming speculation that the reveal was postponed out of respect, following the passing of Steve Jobs. "We believe this is not the right time to announce a new product as the world expresses tribute to Steve Jobs's passing," the spokesperson explained.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-google-postpone-ice-cream-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus

  

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80. "I think they're just being shrewd"
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Who wants to put out a product launch when every news story on the blogs is either about apple's new iPhone launch or how much of a visionary Steve Jobs was? If they wait a couple of weeks they can make a bigger splash.

  

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81. "Not mutually exclusive."
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The decision can be both a savvy business move and showing legitimate respect for Steve Jobs (which I think it is).

  

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40. "damn I JUST got an S2 lol"
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__________________________________

*Note to self: Add Sig*

  

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89. "RE: damn I JUST got an S2 lol"
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>

Me too, imported the white European version. Now I'm rethinking my decision.

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101. "psst....it's a curved s2"
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sammy made the prime.

but there is nothing wrong with being odd. i mean you arent inkast or adwhizz odd. - VABestBBW
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42. "Screenshot in the wild?"
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http://www.geeksailor.com/google-nexus-prime-caught-on-camera-in-the-wild-then-leaked-on-the-web/

I can get behind this.

  

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44. "that picture is fake."
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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45. "What about the video in the same link?"
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64. "oh shit, I thought that was the shitty pic from earlier"
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in the week cuz I hadn't clicked, I dunno, that might be real

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70. "oh shit, you're a fucking idiot."
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72. "OH SHIT NIGGA"
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foh.

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74. "you do realize that when you act like a grown ass child that people"
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dont respect you or anything you say right? grow up lil nigga.

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77. "I'd respond, but I don't know who you are."
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

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78. "and who the fuck are you? faggot ass lil bitch thats who."
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you need a new routine lil homey. your shit is very tired.

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92. "lol @ when niggas go at RJCC like this."
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_____________________
@etfp

  

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93. "he a bitch point blank period and anyone that cosigns him is as well."
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102. "lol you just turned into the nigga chewing the banana in belly."
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hilarious.
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105. "lol @ you watching and quoting scenes from belly. foh."
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127. "^^^^^^^"
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hahahahahahahahha

"Imma drop a dime on that nigga"

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97. "it's like they think they're going to goad me into caring."
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

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100. "nigga you only exist on the internet. no one in real life gives a fuck"
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about you.

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106. "oh the gifs we can use here..."
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69. "Someone here is really mad their iPhones about to be shit on."
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Furious, even.

  

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90. "i think people should just use whatever works for them"
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i dont get that you guys get off on arguing this shit the whole day

  

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95. "Louis CK said it best"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

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110. "^^^^sees it."
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---
Stoicism and chill.
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91. "wrong post"
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n/m

  

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94. "havent heard any prime rumors, but moto droidHD/razr and htc vigor"
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Are kinda sick

Razr is like 4g droidx but thinner, brighter
Vigor id say is a 4g incredible

Both dualcore, no lag
Tho admittedly both fresh out the box
Not loaded wit apps yet

Lg revolution2 coming too


Lookin like a nice 2nd gen 4g christmas lineup for vzw



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96. "they bringing back the razr name? "
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no StarTac android yet?

..|.,

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http://jadetyphoon.blogspot.com/ (WS)

  

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108. "started as 'spyder' but i see the droidHD name as much as the razr name"
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Its crazy slim tho. Name won't matter cuz you'll know it when u see it



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209. "moto droid 4 coming. so for vz- nexus, razr, revolution 2, vigor, d4"
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and bionic


so far

revolution is big upgrade over the 1st one
but imo razr is prolly the best of all

the 1st 5 will likely all have ICS by 1st qtr 2011



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98. "so apple sold 1 million"
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99. "yup. RDF."
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sold out.

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103. "I thought you didn't care about this stuff?"
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Love,
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114. "i dont. i just find it funny when ppl make outrageous claims"
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111. "consider who it's marketed to"
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113. "Yeah, lame ass CONSUMERS!!"
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Imagine the phone designed for OKayplayers.

  

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115. "so 'shitting on' by the OP meant just in specifications?"
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s_dot_miles
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117. "yes. there wont ever be a single android phone that sells more than"
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iphone simply because there are so many choices for top tier android phones.

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107. "5 megapixel camera on the back"
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lol

next level

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109. "megapixels &#8800; quality of the camera"
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with sensors that size and all things being equal, less megapixels generally means better quality.

  

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116. "basically"
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112. "^^^not understanding that sensor matters more than megapixels"
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lol

next level

GamerTag and PSN: PokeEmAll

  

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119. "RE: ^^^not understanding that sensor matters more than megapixels"
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Use that argument with dslr's, clown. This is a PHONE that has a camera feature. When you have your next photography exhibition of Nexus shots let me know.

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120. "RE: ^^^not understanding that sensor matters more than megapixels"
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http://www.wanderlister.com/post/10794851933/liamfitzpatrick-kinkyvicious-qa-review
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29283409@N00/sets/72157618391303742/

  

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118. "^^^^ bought a 13 megapixel kodak camera because it's better."
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@etfp

  

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186. "Funny how this argument went the other way"
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back when the iphone had 5 and the evo had 8.

  

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121. "Nexus Prime event back on for the 19th?"
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/11/samsung-and-googles-ice-cream-sandwich-nexus-prime-event-back/

This week's CTIA festivities aren't the same since Samsung and Google decided to postpone their new product announcement that was originally scheduled for today, but now we're hearing the Ice Cream Sandwich / Nexus party has already been rescheduled. An inside source tells us the two have moved their plans for the Unpacked event to October 19th in Hong Kong (interested US residents should clear out the evening of Tuesday the 18th, time zones), timed to coincide with the AsiaD: All Things Digital event there next week. Naturally, we'll be in the house, but with not long to go before the potential date, we'd expect to hear something concrete soon.

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122. "Disgusting and disrespectful"
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Can't they wait the appropriate amount of time to honor Steve Jobs?

Vultures is what they are. Weasley vultures!!

(Just following their logic about delaying it.)

  

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123. "You are a funny person."
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Nevermind the fact that absolutely no one else out there is questioning the motives nor the reasoning for the delay, but you are continuing to hold the torch for what is already a moot point.

Hilarious.

  

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124. "Hearsay, but here's a summary of some comments on forums..."
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from someone who's handled it (yes it's rumors, and no, I don't care if it's fake or not):

LED notification? Yes.

Removable battery? Yes, according to the OP, 1900mah. Says he is still slightly unsure since it was the last thing he looked at.

Dual LED Flash? Yes.

8MP camera? Yes.

Thin? As in thinner or around the thickness of the latest iPhone? Yes.

Dual Core? Yes, 1.5Ghz TI OMAP

Weight wise? Very light.

SD Card slot? No idea, says he didn't look/find one.

New LTE modem inside? Yes. Said he got 25/10 during a test.

Apparently this thing has a touch sensitive bezel that allows you to make the software based ICS buttons disappear and reappear. The touch sensitive bezel is where the physical buttons would normally be.

He explains that the 720P screen is extremely vivid, unlike anything he's ever seen before more so than the retina of the Iphone.

Found that it had a Chrome like web browser on it which makes sense given that ICS is suppose to incorporate Chrome as it's new browser.
ICS is extremely snappy according to the poster. iPhone snappy. Probably due to better CPU optimization with ICS and Hardware Acceleration (finally!).

He also describes the feel of the phone as being unlike any plastic he has ever touched form Samsung. Some kind of new plastic or something. He said it feels high quality and not cheap. He mentions that metal as been put in to the phone for added support/stabilization.

  

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125. "Galaxy Nexus images, specs and benchmarks apparently leaked"
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/galaxy-nexus-images-specs-and-benchmarks-apparently-leaked/

Either these posters are extremely elaborate fakes, or NTT DoCoMo is really bad at keeping secrets. Just hours after it prematurely tweeted a November release for the Galaxy Nexus (aka the Nexus Prime), we now have what appears to be a full spec list and comparison with the other handsets in the Japanese carrier's range. The details are nearly all familiar from previous suspected leaks, including the dual-core 1.2GHz Texas Instruments processor, 720p Super AMOLED curved glass display, five megapixel camera with 1080p video recording and 32GB of storage (plus 1GB RAM). Now, it's entirely possible that the fakers are all singing from the same dodgy hymn sheet -- but if that's true, then they've also been busily submitting forged benchmarks to GLBenchmark, which displays results from a 'Galaxy Nexus' that include the same 1.2GHz clock speed and HD screen (albeit listed as 1196x720, supposedly due to the onscreen buttons). We'll know the truth soon enough -- the full fandango is but hours away.

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126. "Comparison: iPhone 4S vs. Samsung Galaxy S II (Video)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bphZoV8VrLc

http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/comparison-iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-video#comment-337817234

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128. "Sounds like iPhone 4S records audio in a tin can."
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129. "Not really live anymore, but a liveblog of the event:"
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/samsung-and-googles-ice-cream-sandwich-event-liveblog/?sort=oldest&refresh=0

  

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130. "looks like all the rumored specs were correct"
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131. "Summary from another site:"
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1.2GHz
4.65 AMOLED Screen
HPSA+ and LTE versions
November Release timeframe
Incognito Mode for mobile
Time lapse/Panarama camera modes
Barometer
New font for the phone
Statusbar swipedown on lockscreeen
Unlock to camera option
Swiping built into entire OS
Application Folders
Native screen Capture
Various updates to notifation and statusbar
Facial recognition unlock
Instant Voice input
Offline browser page saving.
Offline Gmail Search and improved interface
Improved Calendar app with zoom capabilities
Data usage meter with graphs and loads of details and abilit to set warnings and data usage kill
Superfast camera with purported zero shutter lag and exposure control.
Hipster Filters.
People App with Metro-esque interface for Contacts
Custom quick text messages for rejecting calls
NFC beam / Android Beam for most apps and system functionality
SDK Immediately available
No mention of tablet features
No solid release date or carrier specific info.

  

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132. "Matias bringing some of that webos swiping in here"
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-looks nice. not so much nexus, but ICS looks nice.
-facical recognition unlock >> siri
ok maybe not, but still.
-barometer??
-swiping windows/cards away. (swiping notifications would be dope)
-16 cards at a time


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133. "the facial unlock completely failed in the live demo"
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a complete "d'oh!" moment for a feature they made a big deal about unveiling

  

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135. "Yeah, that was a HUGE gaffe..."
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but it looks like it could have been a lighting situation that prevented it from recognizing him. He didn't really spend much time on trying to get it to work though.

If it does work properly, it's a pretty nice feature though. Supposedly the front camera has 3d detection to prevent someone from using like a Facebook picture or something to try and circumvent it.

  

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136. "my thing is, though...what's the point?"
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is that really easier than swiping your thumb one inch to the right?

i'm really happy to see Google FINALLY devoting real resources and care towards design - ICS looks a lot better. but they're still fucking around with stupid shit like facial recognition unlock that no one needs or was even asking for.

and it just makes them look second-rate when they build a stupid feature like that and it doesn't even work in the demo.

that "Labs" philosophy of rapid prototyping features and putting them out for public beta testing works on the web where everything's free, but they HAVE to abandon that shit for software that's going to live on a phone someone just paid $300 and $60/month for. every feature on your OS needs to WORK.

  

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137. "See: Siri"
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> but they're
>still fucking around with stupid shit like facial recognition
>unlock that no one needs or was even asking for.

All that you just typed applies to... Siri, no? Was anyone asking for concierge services from their phone? Now the RDF has people hyping it up like it's the greatest thing ever. Funny thing is, Apple's not even responsible for the algo behind it, they just licensed Wolfram Alpha's work.

As for the facial recognition... umm, does security not matter to you? If someone can't access your phone unless they look EXACTLY like you, then that seems like a pretty important feature to me.

  

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141. "people've wanted WORKING voice recognition forever"
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i hope Google isn't selling the facial recognition unlock as a security feature. cuz if it fails even once (which it's obviously capable of), it's worthless.

bottom line, it's not ready for prime time. offer it to power users as a semi-open beta, but don't trumpet it as a new feature to a mainstream audience and then show it failing in its debut. that's amateur hour.

  

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143. "And Android's HAD working voice recognition for forever...."
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What Siri brings to the table is the concierge services (which again, isn't Apple's innovation, it just parses OTHER services). I've been able to use voice recognition on my 2 year old Android phone to dictate text messages, look for directions and write emails since day one... and Ice Cream Sandwich brings even more improved voice recognition. Your point is?

And yes, that was a mistake not testing the conditions for face recognition during a press conference with variables like make up, lighting, etc. Now, if it was inconsistent in actual, everyday use they absolutely deserve to get blasted for it. Until that day though, calling it "amateur hour" is absolutely baseless until you see it in the field.

Also, let's not act like Apple's never had errors during THEIR keynotes either... "Could everyone stop using wi-fi please?" It is what it is. Shit happens.

As for security, the funny thing is Apple is behind the curve when it comes to security. They incorporated the pattern lock screen after Android introduced it, and I'm willing to bet gobs and gobs of money that they'll implement some sort of facial recognition security with the iPhone 5. The news that just broke where Siri lets people dial/text/email without knowing your passcode doesn't help matters any, either.

  

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144. "i have an Android phone...the voice reco is so-so"
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the transcription even fucked up in the demo when he was dictating a text message.

and the amazing thing about Siri is that it understands context and normal speech and is tied into the entire OS. Android isn't even close in that regard.

the concerns about security are valid. although, Apple has built up so much good-will and RDF that they can absorb little blips of security issues like that. Like Matias said in the press conference...people don't LOVE their Android phones...it's not a joy to use them...until Google gets Android to that point, they won't be in Apple's league.

i'm sick of the fucking iPhone...i want a worthy competitor. Google just needs to step up their game A LOT when it comes to marketing a product that can stand up to Apple.

  

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146. "I agree, it's touchy but useful."
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I've found that giving tangible pauses between words and enunciating helps, but ICS *should* be big leaps forward in recognition.

I haven't tried the 4S version so I can't speak on it quite yet.

Not sure about you, but I *love* my Android, quirks and all. And trying to compare mindshare against any Apple product is always a losing proposition: Macs, ipods, iphones, ipads... they'll ALWAYS have that on lockdown. Yes, it's fair to demand more as an Android user but at the same time that's not their *entire* MO like it is over at Apple. At least it looks like they're taking big steps in that direction with ICS... the hands-on videos have been pretty impressive, and hardware acceleration should go a long way to making it a much more seamless experience.

  

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153. "siri is def more polished, but i can see the novelty wearing off"
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some of ppl will use it alot. but some wont use it for days or weeks or ever.
facial recognition (if it works well) will be used dozens of times per day.
whatever, one day, both OSes will probably have both. (apple will prolly do an eyescan or thumbprint)
skynet is real.

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164. "Looks like the face recognition is actually extremely snappy."
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But yeah, the conditions while on stage aren't ideal

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/ice-cream-sandwich-face-unlock-demo-video/

  

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138. "yeah they should have built out a way to send postcards instead."
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139. "LMAO"
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142. "that shit is stupid as hell"
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and grandmas are gonna use the hell out of it.

the facial recognition fuckup in the demo was just indicative of everything Google does wrong in the consumer space. just amateurish and bootleg...i want them to get their shit together, but they've got a long way to go.

  

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145. "BINGO!"
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>and grandmas are gonna use the hell out of it.

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149. "Its just a gimmick to promote the use of the struggling USPS."
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140. "Damn... Apple doesn't even care about security "
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20122632-83/bad-siri-shell-let-anyone-use-a-locked-iphone-4s/

lol

  

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172. "Yeah, they should be more like HTC"
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134. "swiping notifications away is in there too. n/m"
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147. "We should do a pool for current Android owners"
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guessing when/if their phones will get the ICS update.

Motorola is saying their RAZR will get it in "early 2012", and I'd guess no earlier than Feb 22.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/motorola-razr-to-get-updated-to-ice-cream-sandwich-in-early-2012/

I'm thinking GSII might not get it for a while. If I had to bet, I'd say there will be another version of Android before they get ICS.

What about you other Android owners? What phone do you have and when do you think you'll get ICS?

EVO and original Galaxy owners, do you expect to get it at all?

  

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148. "this is another part of the problem"
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everyone claims to love the wide array of choices in hardware the Android provides. is it really that great?

most of the phones are shit. the build quality's all over the place...little inconsistencies in button placement, etc. so you're left with only a few viable options, and then 3 months after you finally bite the bullet and get the latest Motorola KRYZE, they release the KRYZE HD 2 and you feel like an asshole cuz you can only update to Android 4.2.5 while everyone else is getting 4.2.9

the shit is really a mess. everything would be a lot smoother (and they'd have more freedom to create nicer software) if they had one line of phones...a lower tier for the pre-paid crowd, a middle-tier in the $199 range and a top-tier in the $299 range

  

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150. "RE: this is another part of the problem"
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are they really that bad with updates? Just got the galaxy 2 but if they're slow with updates I think I'll go back to iPhone. Has it limits at times but the updates are timely across all their devices. I like android so far but I don't want to root my phone to get ICS

  

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151. "vast majority of people never update their os or dont know how"
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and that goes for iphone, android, blackberry etc.

my mother has an iphone 4 that she has literally never even plugged into the computer to backup or update lol. (i went ahead and put ios5 on there for her yesterday though)


the variety of screen sizes and form factors is what draws in the casual consumers to android.

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185. "yea the OS update thing is just something for nerd niggas to nit pick"
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when the avg. user out grows a device...whether it be design or the OS....they just go get another (newer) phone

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193. "That's not really true though"
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On the 18th (when ios 5 had been out for less than a week) over 30% of iphone owners already had the update.

http://www.localytics.com/blog/

  

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155. "I'm down for this"
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We could put real dollars on it. LOL at Atrix 1 and 2 owners, any HTC owner and all GS2ers. There's a strong chance none of those phones get updates. I know my iphone 4 is good for all future updates.

R. D. F. It's a movement.

  

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156. "ALL future updates?"
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> I know my iphone 4 is good for all
>future updates.
>
>R. D. F. It's a movement.

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158. "Good for all future updates, apart from"
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things being intentionally left out to give you more reason to buy the new phone.

  

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159. "The Apple way"
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>
>things being intentionally left out to give you more reason to
>buy the new phone.

Or the update that breaks your legacy, but perfectly working, phone, ask Iphone 3G users.

  

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162. "Like that fucking proprietary port."
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It's a KNOWN problem at Apple that the pins bend, especially when used with docks. Bricked my perfectly fine 32gb ipod touch... so fucking lame.

  

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160. "lets do a pool for people who are totally in love with ios"
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bitching about problems they think exist on android.

I had chillinchief, I win.

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163. "C'mon, what do you have an HTC Incredible?"
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You guys only had to wait from December 2010 to September 2011, so that's not THAT bad, right?

  

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181. "hope the atrix will get the upgrade"
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190. "you see this?"
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ouch

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support

  

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191. "weird how owners of the fantastic ios"
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are so oddly obsessed with android.

why was chillinchief falling out of love with his old iphone? HE GOT UPDATES GUARANTEED FOR THREE YEARS



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192. "nobody's obsessed"
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we're just talking here. It's the first time i've seen such a thorough breakdown of which devices got which updates. Did you actually look at the article?

The Nexus S looks like a nice phone. It's the first Android phone I would actually consider buying.

  

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194. "the problem is it's a completely meaningless chart."
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but it lets iphone owners feel good about themselves, which is the point.

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195. "It's a high-tech discussion board"
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You don't think every perceived flaw in ios gets picked to pieces on here?

If Android handsets not getting timely OS updates isn't worthy of discussion on the board, then why don't you say why you think so? If you're above it all then why not just ignore it? I can't understand why you're getting so bent out of shape about it.

  

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196. "RE: It's a high-tech discussion board"
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>You don't think every perceived flaw in ios gets picked to
>pieces on here?

lol. I wouldn't know, I don't live all up in ios posts.

>
>If Android handsets not getting timely OS updates isn't worthy
>of discussion on the board, then why don't you say why you
>think so?

I think that chart isn't relevant to anyone except for a fanboy.

That android as a platform has a problem with updates is known beyond doubt, you don't need an infographic for that.

That every single one of those phones shipped with notifications that didn't suck and multitasking some of those iphones never got, for example, is not made evident by a bar graph.

It's the nuances.

If you're above it all then why not just ignore it?
>I can't understand why you're getting so bent out of shape
>about it.

no one's getting bent out of shape, but you are bending over backwards to show your love for the platform you use.

>


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197. "lol @ bending over backwards"
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I saw the article, remembered that chillinchief made a comment about it, and posted it here. I don't know why you didn't just drop a "this chart is bullshit" and KIM if you felt that way about it. Anyway, I'm over this.

  

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204. "you still never said what phone you own and if you"
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think it will be updated.

kinda telling.

  

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152. "Feeling some of the WebOS like swiping they're talking about"
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I swear one of those screenshots had the home screen set up a lot like WebOS too.

Still, I doubt HTC will be porting it over to my Shift, which seriously blows. Meaning unless the XDC guys get a permaroot working for it (which they still don't have quite down yet) I'll need a new phone (and one with a keyboard to make things worse)

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154. "im ready to jump webos ship finally, but i will miss my touchstones"
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i have touchstones set up all over the house/car/family's house.
for me and my wife's palm.
thats what ill really miss now.
have you found an app to put email subjects in notifications? (for my android tab)
i hate the gmail notification, its pretty useless

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157. "Why the Galaxy Nexus has a barometer:"
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https://plus.google.com/112413860260589530492/posts/jVJhPyouWDP

I've seen a lot of hay made about the barometer in Galaxy Nexus. Here's the skinny; it's not really as dramatic or weird as people think.

The primary purpose of the barometer is (at least, I've been told) to make GPS lockons faster. Locking on to a GPS involves numerically solving a 4-dimensional set of linear equations -- 3 dimensions in space, and time. (Yes, you get accurate time for free if you lock on to GPS.) Because of the way GPS works, this can take a few minutes.

This goes much faster if you already have an estimate of your location. This is why "aGPS" (assisted GPS) services are so popular: by starting with a rough city-level coordinate fix through something like cell-tower network location, you can reduce the amount of math you have to do to lock on. This is where the barometer comes in.

The 3 dimensions in space are latitude, longitude... and altitude. The barometer gives you a reasonable first-cut estimate for altitude. This gives you a bit of a leg up on one of the dimensions -- especially combined with "2D" aGPS -- which can help speed up lock-on in general.

Now of course, the barometer can also be used for things like, well, determining atmospheric pressure (although I'm not sure it's really weather grade.) But the main reason it's in your phone is to help with GPS.

Also, it's worth noting that Xoom has a barometer too, so it's not a new thing.

  

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161. "It warms my cold heart to see all these bitter Apple fans in here."
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165. "The parts of this post that aren't about phones:"
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5 Stars!!

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psn: sirius_fruits

but that shit's stupid though.

  

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166. "Excellent article on Matias Duarte..."
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and the philosophy behind ICS:

http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/exclusive-matias-duarte-ice-cream-sandwich-galaxy-nexus/

Exclusive: Matias Duarte on the philosophy of Android, and an in-depth look at Ice Cream Sandwich

I’m sitting in an anonymous, fluorescently-lit office on the Google campus where the Android team is situated, a surprisingly bare setting that seems to clash with the rest of the company’s, multi-colored, neo-hippie aesthetic. I’m waiting for Matias Duarte — Android’s head of user experience — so that we can discuss the latest version of Google’s mobile operating system (dubbed Ice Cream Sandwich), and hopefully get a look at the smartphone the new OS will ship with.

I’ve just had a long, bad, and very early flight to San Francisco, and I’m a little weary, though one of Google’s PR reps has kindly given me a strong mug of coffee from a single-cup machine I’m told costs $10,000. The coffee isn’t bad.

When Matias gets to the meeting, he walks through the door like he’s in mid-sentence, as if he was handing off some direction to someone just outside the room. He comes in with a smile on his face wearing a loud, patterned shirt that looks perfect for a beach in Hawaii (where he’s incidentally headed the next day). Matias Duarte is not a big guy, but he’s got a room-filling personality. You can tell when he’s fired up, and he’s clearly fired up today.

The philosophy of Android



Matias is somewhat of an anomaly in our industry. He led major user interface projects at Danger, Helio, and most notably Palm — where he gave birth to webOS — which were incredibly inventive in both design and functionality. At those companies, he took the lead on the creation, design, and implementation of novel and new mobile interfaces. But he’s not just a skilled designer. Matias can talk about his designs in a way that people understand. Not only understand, but get excited about. He’s effusive, brilliant, and very focused.

Unfortunately his work at those companies couldn’t find a foothold, and he seemed destined to toil away on doomed projects until he arrived at Google last year (he left Palm just after the company was acquired by HP) to work with his old boss from Danger, Andy Rubin.

He sits down at the head of the table. I ask him to start by telling me what’s been happening between Honeycomb, his first big project at Google, and Ice Cream Sandwich.

“Honeycomb was kind of that emergency landing.”
He starts with a qualifier. “Honeycomb was kind of that emergency landing,” he says, “You get there, ‘phew, okay survived that,’ and when we finished that we said ‘what’s next?’”

“Coming in and being put in charge of the design and UX for this enormously successful platform that now has years of legacy behind it. It’s completely unlike getting behind the steering wheel of a zippy, agile little car. It’s more like driving an aircraft carrier.” He gestures as if he’s pushing a button, “Okay guys, turning left! Are we turning left yet?” His point is that it’s a big machine.

“There’s a momentum that’s in there, and that comes from the magnitude of what we’re trying to do. It’s a platform, it’s got to run on all these different form factors, on these different classes of devices, it’s got to have a flexibility designed into it that you don’t have to worry about when you’re doing a completely integrated device.” Matias pulls out a laptop and puts it on the table between us. We’re working up to something here.

“You want to be sure that your design ideas will survive, and also allow for customization,” he says.

“We’re designing something bigger. We’re designing a showcase product for people that says ‘okay, this is what you could build,’ but then we’re also designing the Lego system that people build those products out of, and we have to do both of those at the same time. And we can’t really cheat and cut any corners and do anything with our product that couldn’t build out of this system.”

I first saw Honeycomb at CES in January of this year. Devices with the software have been shipping since February — yet Android phones have remained stuck, still waiting on the upgrades and improvements promised by the revised OS.

“On Honeycomb we cheated, we cut the corner of all that smaller device support. That’s the sole reason we haven’t open sourced it.”

“On Honeycomb we cheated, we cut the corner of all that smaller device support. That’s the sole reason we haven’t open sourced it.”
Matias explains further, “Honeycomb was like: we need to get tablet support out there. We need to build not just the product, but even more than the product, the building blocks so that people stop doing silly things like taking a phone UI and stretching it out to a 10-inch tablet.” It’s obvious that products like the original Galaxy Tab, with a bastardized version of Android for phones, annoyed him.

“So that was the mission, and it was a time-boxed mission. Any corner we could cut to get that thing out the door, we had to.”

Matias flips open his laptop.

“I want to set expectations. Android’s growth, because it’s got this legacy, has to be an evolutionary growth.” He’s asking me to lower my expectations — something he repeats throughout our interview. “What I’m going to show you here is something I’m really proud of. But the device I’m going to be giving to everybody this Christmas, the Android phone I’m actually feeling good about people carrying — my Android phone — it’s not the end of the journey.” His Android phone. Noted.

“In doing Honeycomb we made a whole bunch of changes to the platform, so Ice Cream Sandwich is where we say ‘huh, okay, how are those changes going to work on phones?’”

He has slides. “We wanted to do more than just bring Honeycomb to phones.”

“The question we were asking was not ‘what’s the milestone for the next release,’ but ‘what’s the vision for how we want to evolve the platform,’ and this is the pithy question we asked. Aspirational. Challenging.”

What is the soul of the new machine? The words are emblazoned across Matias’ laptop display.

I tell him that that’s pretty intense. I ask what the new machine is, exactly.

“Android is the new machine. It represents that new type of potential for computer / human interaction. Mobile is exciting because it breaks us out of this stodgy stuff that we’ve been looking at for two decades,” he’s worked up, “Two decades of windows, and cursors, and little folder icons!”

“Finally people’s minds are being cracked open, so now the question is, what are we going to do with that momentum?”

This isn’t a design or product question. It’s a philosophical question. What is this thing? What is it supposed to do? How will it do it? How do we get there? I ask him if it was the first time anyone at Google had ever asked that question.

“I don’t think anybody ever asked about the soul,” he answers in a very matter-of-fact way, “This was my question, it was the question I challenged the team with.”

“I think people had very clear and concrete visions about Android and its strategy, but from a holistic design perspective — not just the look and feel — what does it mean in your life? Why are we doing the things that we’re trying to do. That was the question I wanted to ask.”

This question sparked deep user studies at Google on mobile phone use, what Matias described as “Serious baseline ethnographic research which hadn’t happened before.” He tells me that the company spent a great deal of time and effort watching how and why regular people used their smartphones. Not just Android phones, but all smartphones. The company even had employees “shadow” users, visiting them at their homes and workplaces to watch how they interacted with their devices. Matias wouldn’t share numbers, but intimated that the study was a significant undertaking.

“A lot of what we found confirmed what I thought for years. At Danger, we had this idea that smartphones were not for a certain kind of person. They were for everyone. Smartphones were the way phones were supposed to be.”

“What we heard from everyone we talked to in the study was that they love these things , they are a part of their lives. They’re incredibly passionate about them. They can’t live without them. That was awesome. But we also heard a lot of things we didn’t like to hear.”

“With Android, people were not responding emotionally.”
“With Android, people were not responding emotionally, they weren’t forming emotional relationships with the product. They needed it, but they didn’t necessarily love it.”

Matias says that the studies showed that users felt empowered by their devices, but often found Android phones overly complex. That they needed to invest more time in learning the phones, more time in becoming an expert. The phones also made users feel more aware of their limitations — they knew there was more they could do with the device, but couldn’t figure out how to unlock that power.

It was a wakeup call at Google.

“If these are the things we don’t like to hear, what are the things we want to hear?” Matias says.

“We want to create wonder. We wanted to simplify people’s lives. Right now, there’s a common trap that can happen when you load up too much power into a piece of software that’s not that intelligent. Like the junior assistant that you hire, who instead of helping you by taking work of your plate, makes more work for you. We wanted that really senior assistant that really knows how to help.”

“We wanted to focus our effort on making people feel more amazing, like they’re super-powered. You put on your suit of techno-magical armor and now you can fly and shoot the bad guys. We want our products to make them more empowered.”

I ask him if Google wants the products to just feel amazing, or actually be amazing. “We want to do both,” he replies, then flips to the next slide on the laptop.

Inside the machine



“A huge component of building wonderland is the way it looks and feels and sounds, and one of the first things we did was focus on the thing you interact with the most, which is the typography.”

The company has created a new typeface for Ice Cream Sandwich dubbed Roboto, designed in-house at Google, something the company has never done before. It’s clean and modern, but not overly futuristic — not a science fiction font. Matias says that it’s been designed for “high resolution mobile displays” as “a complete typeface, in a great many more varieties than have existed for Android before.” He adds “It’s a modern typeface, it’s trying to take a point of view and is not ashamed to do so.”

Then he pulls a dark gray slab out of his pocket and flicks on the screen. The Galaxy Nexus.

The phone is huge, but not oversized compared to the Galaxy S II I’ve been testing on AT&T. It has a curved housing that gets smaller towards the top of the phone. The glass on the screen is arched as well. I tell him it looks like a teardrop shape. “It is kind of a teardrop shape,” he agrees. It has a gorgeous Super AMOLED display, 4.65-inches at a 1280 x 720 resolution. It’s the nicest display I’ve seen since the iPhone 4. Maybe even nicer. Text looks smooth — you don’t see pixels, even at the large size. Matias says it’s got a higher pixel density than the iPhone, but when I do the math, it turns out he’s wrong. Still, it’s higher than most devices on the market — 315 ppi. “We collaborated very heavily with Samsung on this,” Matias tells me.

The phone has no hardware buttons on the front, unlike all previous Android devices. There are three, persistent, on-screen buttons which surface along the bottom of the display — back, home, and a multi-tasking switcher.

Inside the device has a dual-core, 1.2GHz TI OMAP CPU, 1GB of RAM, a 5-megapixel camera, and it will be an LTE phone here in the US. Matias won’t say the carrier, though it’s obvious that it will be Verizon. There’s a pentaband version for international markets.

The device is also equipped with NFC, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and a plethora of sensors, and has an RGB notification light beneath the screen.

The phone is made of plastic (the screen is presumably Gorilla Glass), but feels incredibly solid. Google reps say that there’s an internal aluminum chassis that makes the phone stronger and more rigid.

The camera — though lower in resolution than Apple’s iPhone 4S and several other devices on the market — takes incredible looking photos. Matias shows a few shots he’s taken with the phone, and I have to double check with him that they weren’t downloaded from a point-and-shoot.

But the device is only half the story. The interface of the phone is completely new. It looks a lot like Honeycomb, but also shares much in common with Google’s new aesthetic that it’s been pushing for its web products. It’s clean and modern, and the company has removed the overly masculine, Tron-like feel to the OS.

“Across the board Google and Android is taking design a lot more seriously,” Matias says, and points out that Roboto is used throughout the system. “There’s this thing that’s happening right now in user interface design that I find kind of shackling. The faux wood paneling trend, and the airport lavatory signage trend.” He laughs when he says this and pulls up a slide on his computer, a split screen of an Atari 2600 and… airport lavatory signage. It’s an obvious dig at both Apple and Microsoft.

“The biggest problem behind these trends is not anything about the aesthetic quality about them, but rather the framework that they impose on everything else,” he opines. “Right now if you look at all of these applications that are designed in this real-objecty, faux wood paneling, faux brushed metal, faux jelly button kind of thing… if you step back and you really look at them, they look kind of juvenile. They’re not photorealistic, they’re illustrations.”

He’s on a roll now. Clearly Matias has spent a lot of time thinking about what he doesn’t like. “If you look back at the web, people did the same thing. All these cartoony things hanging off a page. If you tried that today, people would be laughing, unless you were doing it in a kitsch, poking-fun-at-yourself, retro art way.”

But what about Microsoft and their “authentically digital” design? “The problem with going too starkly systematic, forcing everything into this completely constrained, modernist palette, for both of them, you’re not leaving any room for the content to express itself.”

“The incredible diversity of applications and content providers… that’s the reason people have these machines. Not for the five bundled apps and the beauty of the OS — they have them for the hundreds or thousands of games, or books, or movies.”

“We’ve taken what Honeycomb has done and pumped up the snooty design quotient, and we’ve toned down the geeky nerd quotient.”
“Instead, I offer the web. Here there’s beautiful examples of very customized, very different feeling websites.” Matias flips through slides in his deck, a variety of websites, some news-focused, others which are services or shopping sites. “These look completely unlike each other, but people understand how to use them because the right things are standard conventions, and other things are flexible.”

“That’s what we tried to build with the Ice Cream Sandwich convention. We started throwing in a few hints in Gingerbread, and took it further in Honeycomb. We tried to create a palette and a language and a sense of being that’s clean and modern and graphic, but isn’t a straightjacket.” He adds, “We’ve taken what Honeycomb has done and pumped up the snooty design quotient, and we’ve toned down the geeky nerd quotient. We’ve made it a lot more accessible. But we haven’t taken it in a new direction.”

The soul of the machine



The new software is striking. I’m in love immediately. Everything in the OS has been touched by the designers at Android. Nothing looks the same.

Along the bottom of the homescreen you have a “favorites tray,” which can be customized, in the center is a button to get to your applications. Google search is always present on homescreens in the launcher, kind of like “Just Type” in webOS. When you want to create a folder now, you simply drag an icon onto another icon, similar to iOS. Inside folders, app icons will rearrange themselves, also like Apple’s software. Widgets can scroll and be resized, as in Honeycomb. Everything is smooth and fluid; new animations have been added throughout the system.

The multi-tasking icon pulls up a list of app snapshots similar to Honeycomb, but those applications can now be killed by swiping them to the right — like vertical cards. Gestures are all over ICS. “Gestures are much more fun than hitting buttons. Touching and moving things; way better than buttons,” Matias says while moving around the device. Even the calendar app didn’t escape the touch treatment; you’re now able to pinch-to-zoom on your schedule to expand or contract the view, which seems incredibly helpful.

The notification window is now slightly translucent with a glowing dot when you pull it downward. Notifications can be swiped away one at a time, mirroring webOS 3.0 behavior. You can access your notifications on the lock screen if you’re not using a passcode, and you can jump quickly to your settings through the window shade.

Applications like Gmail have been completely redesigned. Gone are hidden menus — they’re now replaced by contextual menus which change with your selections, similar to Honeycomb. But on the phone things feel more complete, easier to reach, they make more sense. “We’ve taken all the hidden stuff away,” Matias says. You can swipe left to right to move backwards and forwards through your messages. There’s a new inbox selection chip at the top of the screen, but still no unified Gmail inbox. “It’s harder than you think,” he tells me.

In Gmail, Google Talk, and elsewhere, there’s a real push to use left-to-right swipes to move from place to place — very similar to the recent versions of the Market and Music applications Google has released.

The keyboard and text selection has been hugely improved. You can now long press anywhere on the phone to select text, and you get a contextual menu for copy, paste, and sharing options. Matias says he’ll put the ICS keyboard up against any other virtual keyboard on the market in terms of accuracy and correction.

There are new apps and features too. A “People” application works as your contacts list and a way to gather all of your friends social network activity. There are APIs which developers can plug into to harness the app’s power. It’s somewhat reminiscent of Microsoft’s people panels in Windows Phone 7. I ask Matias if this is a replacement for the address book. “The concept of an address book or contacts feels so lame and dated, it’s like ‘an address book is this little thing with this faux leather cover!’”

Using NFC and something called Android Beam, you can tap two Galaxy Nexus’ together and send files and links. It’s accompanied by a “warp field” animation which shows the file snapping over to the other device.

The camera and gallery apps have changed too. You’re now able to edit and filter photos you take within the gallery application, and there are a whole slew of Instagram-style tweaks you can make to images. You can tap-to-focus in the camera app, it has face detection, and can do panoramic shots as well as burst mode, and the company boasts that the camera has zero shutter lag. Photos can be snapped instantaneously, which makes for a nice response to Apple’s on-stage taunting of Android phone camera speeds.

Even the sounds have been changed. The lock sounds and keyboard sounds are now much more digital, instead of trying to replicate real-world objects. The company has also improved its voice input significantly, offering near-realtime dictation, and making it easier to correct listening mistakes.

But there are deeper changes. Matias tells me that starting with Android 4.0, users can uninstall any application they like, such as the native browser or email client — and that seems to go for carrier software as well. In phone settings you can also control your data usage in a very specific manner. Google is providing tools to set data limits systemwide or for specific apps, then give you warnings when you’re about to cross a threshold. You can also restrict the amount of background data certain apps use, and see usage history. I ask Matias if this is one of the features that will make users feel amazing. “This is a make-your-wallet-amazing feature,” he replies with a laugh.

Matias also told me that a new style guide was being prepped for developers with lots of off-the-rack pieces that would make it easier for third-parties to create the same kind of streamlined, beautiful applications I saw in Ice Cream Sandwich.

Piece-by-piece, it’s impressive. But when taken as a whole, coupled with a world-beating device like the Galaxy Nexus, it’s a heady mixture.
Piece-by-piece, it’s impressive. But when taken as a whole, coupled with a world-beating device like the Galaxy Nexus, it’s a heady mixture. My impression from seeing all of the new work at play was that Google is really starting to take the experience seriously. This is the first device from the company that really feels completely cohesive and coherent in all the ways a great smartphone should. Maybe Matias’ advice throughout our conversation to lower my expectations worked, because I’m impressed by what Ice Cream Sandwich represents.

It’s clear that Matias is making his mark on a company which has historically been driven by data, not design. I ask why he came to the company in the first place.

“I came here because they’re winning, but also because I could not stand the thought of there being another decade of being trapped in one paradigm, of being trapped in the past just because somebody manages to grab maximum marketshare, and then that’s the thing everybody uses with incremental evolution.”

“I thought ‘okay you know what, I’ve tried to win so many times before,’ and it’s been shown that it doesn’t matter how great a product you have and how revolutionary the product is… distribution and marketshare are the things that matter.” Matias smiles, “Now I’m going the other way around.”

  

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167. "good read"
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> Matias can talk about his designs
>in a way that people understand. Not only understand, but get
>excited about. He’s effusive, brilliant, and very focused.


Sounds like another guy in the tech field



>“With Android, people were not responding emotionally, they
>weren’t forming emotional relationships with the product. They
>needed it, but they didn’t necessarily love it.”
>“We want to create wonder. We wanted to simplify people’s
>lives."
>“We wanted to focus our effort on making people feel more
>amazing, like they’re super-powered. You put on your suit of
>techno-magical armor and now you can fly and shoot the bad
>guys. We want our products to make them more empowered.”



Sounds like another company in the tech field






I'm actually impressed with the Google Nexus. From what i've read and saw via video of the device it looks really sharp. When is it gonna be released though? And to which carriers.

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169. "looks like Nov. 10 on Verizon - $299"
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/14/new-verizon-map-released-both-galaxy-nexus-and-htc-rezound-appear-at-299/

  

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168. "im glad matias landed at googs"
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171. "Chi chi chi le le le!!!"
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170. ""
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http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/10/ice-cream-sandwich-hands-on/

  

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173. "i really am a dick"
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cuz after reading that article, i sprinted back here to gloat about the bad performance of the facial recognition.

  

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174. "Or you could actually see how it works instead of reading about it."
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I posted this up above:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/ice-cream-sandwich-face-unlock-demo-video/

The picture in the article had the guy's face is like half off the screen, whereas in the video where you can *actually* see it in action, it was extremely responsive and seemed fine.

I'm guessing the final verdict on face recognition will be in between the two experiences. It looks like there's a "sweet spot" to put your face in to give it the best chance at recognizing your face... like this:

http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/322126-face-unlock.jpg?thumb=y

If the lighting conditions suck, maybe your face is at a bad angle, or if you miss the sweet spot, then yeah, of course it's not going to work. What I'd be curious to see is if it can recognize your face without looking directly at it (like if you're driving). If you can unlock your phone, dictate then send a text message all without looking down, that would be SWEET.

  

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175. "Not be just be a dick BUT the display got at least one and review"
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/21/the-galaxy-nexus-super-amoled-display-is-a-minus-not-a-plus/

They basically say the colors are way off.

I think "full reviews" will expose if this is a problem.

  

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176. "Or you can actually analyze the screen versus others."
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-and-Galaxy-Nexus-sport-HD-Super-AMOLED---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134

Conclusion

To wrap it up we'd say that the fears about PenTile appear hugely overblown when it comes to the new HD Super AMOLED technology, which delivers higher pixel density. The folks from Nouvoyance seem to be open about the advantages and disadvantages of their matrix arrangement, and never said flaws don't exist in certain conditions. Moreover, it seems that PenTile is here to stay, and Samsung is even prepping an RGBW LCD screen with 1600x2560 pixels resolution, resulting in 300ppi at 10.1-inch size.

In any case, if we nitpickers couldn't find anything troubling with the screen on our prototype Galaxy Note, then the average user shouldn't even care what matrix their smartphone or tablet display uses to bring them those entertaining YouTube clips of cats falling off TVs.

  

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177. ""way off" is probably a bit of an overstatement"
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and it hasn't had any reviews yet.


phonearena's bullshit ass statements are the same in the other direction.

let's wait till someone actually owns the motherfucker, fuck

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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178. "The funny thing is..."
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all this hoopla over some shit you literally need a microscope to discern. People up in arms over whether or not this individual pixel has all 3 colors or needs to share a color with its neighbor.

The main reason why I posted the phonearena article is because of this line:

"The premise of the PenTile creators is that their invention is not inferior to the traditional RGB, but actually a different way to arrange a display matrix, where you lose some definition diagonally, visible at lower pixel densities, but gain brightness, ease-to-manufacture, contrast and power efficiency. "

If that statement is even partially true, if you trade off slight color integrity for efficiencies in production and power then it's more than worthy of being used.

  

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183. "I was talking about the COLOR - not the density"
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Almost every OLED display I've heard of over saturates colors. That's all I was asking about.

  

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180. "im not a fan of the amoled plus of the gs2"
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maybe it wasnt configured right.
but i guess amoled is the price of the thinness.

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179. "Ok... I can definitely get behind aesthetics like this."
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http://dx3.psychopyko.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/dialer.png

  

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182. "ICS to include full device encryption (swipe)"
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20124010-83/ice-cream-sandwich-makes-tough-security-taste-better/?tag=txt;title

There's more to Ice Cream Sandwich than just better camera controls, near-field communication support, and the redesigned interface. Google has also been working on making the latest version of Android the safest yet, and several of the features are mighty sharp for a melty brick of ice cream.
The biggest of them all is that you'll be able to fully encrypt your ICS device. This means that all your data will be on lockdown, inaccessible even to you until you enter in the passcode or personal identification number.
The benefit of this obvious: if lose your phone, you won't have to worry about remotely wiping it. The downside, of course, is that if you forget your password, you're locked out and the only way to get your phone back is to factory restore it. Expect to see renewed interest in cloud-based backup services for Android.
How apps manage authentication and secure sessions will get easier in ICS, thanks to a new keychain API that works in conjunction with the underlying encrypted storage. Any app will be able to use the keychain API to install and store user certificates and certificate authorities securely. It's a very technical change that will nevertheless allow apps to be written more safely from the get-go.
The lockscreen itself has received some effective enhancements, too. The first, and the most widely-talked about, is that you'll be able to unlock your phone using native facial-recognition technology. Called Face Unlock, this tech has been around for a while for other systems, such as Windows, so it's good to see it being ported to a high-profile mobile platform natively.
The most common concern with facial recognition technology is that it can be fooled by a photograph. Android developer Tim Bray says that it can't; and my own tests in 2010 with the Windows facial recognition software Blink failed to fool it then. Obviously, a Windows program and an Android feature are not the same, but given that I wasn't able to log in with a photo two years ago, it'd be a massive failure for the feature if it could happen now.
Other potential facial recognition problems include alterations to your appearance, such as facial hair or make-up, or poor lighting conditions. If the feature can't tell that you're you, it'll open the passcode box for manual unlocking.
Android 4.0 will also let you customize a lockscreen message. This isn't world-shaking, to be sure, but it will allow you to set a "please return to" message for anybody who finds your phone, potentially improving your chances of getting a lost device returned to you.

Lastly, big improvements have been made to app control. You'll be able to disable bloatware, those apps that come pre-installed on your device, and you'll have the ability to disable background data on a per-app basis.
The disable option promises to let you render an app fully inactive. It won't be able to send or receive data, it won't be able to launch, and it won't display an icon in your app tray. However, because those apps are part of the system partition, you won't be able to fully remove them. That will still require rooting your phone. Nevertheless, this is a massive improvement for people wondering what the heck a Citrix is.
Being able to disable data transfers for apps running in the background provides a stopgap measure for controlling apps without taking the harsher measure of disabling the app outright. While some apps such as JuiceDefender already give users that kind of control, it's enormously helpful to have that as a default Android feature.
These are solid improvements to Android security, although I'd like to see more in the way of exposing permissions and either simplifying them, or helping users understand them, or both. For instance, you might notice that your violent bird-throwing game has permission to send out your location. On the face of it, that sounds bad. But what if the game has a new social networking component that allows you to compete against nearby friends? Making clear how a particular permission is used by an app would be a big boon.
If there are security improvements you'd like to see made to Android, tell me in the comments below.
Originally posted at The Download Blog

  

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184. "Too bad it's in Italian, but ICS's browser is SMOOTH"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTpf0J5vfMs

Supposedly the translation is as follows:

He talks about the resolution of the display and CPU 0.20
He explains that he is installing flash 0.40
He praises the speed and fluidity of the browser. 0.50
He highlights the "save page for offline viewing" menu option. 1.10
He explains that zooming, and rotating the screen is also very smooth. He goes back to the quality of the zoom. 1.30
He mentions that the text is very detailed and that you cannot perceive the pixels even at a high resolution 1.55
He shows the tabbed browsing and adds that closing and opening tabs is easy and intuitive, and explains the "incognito browsing" option. 2.20
He continues that there is very little lag, and that it works flawlessly with many tabs open. until ~5.30
He moves on to gmail, google maps, and says there is no major difference there. 5.30
He demonstrates google maps' fluidity. 6.00

  

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187. "Time lapse video completely taken with the phone"
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Pretty impressive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhlL-ys5iOA

More details:

https://plus.google.com/111962077049890418486/posts/EJxn8T21H5o

  

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188. "that shit cray."
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198. "wow....that shit was impressive"
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189. "wait, its not gorilla glass??!"
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/samsung-galaxy-nexus-confirmed-to-have-fortified-glass-not-go/

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199. "Regarding Android fragmentation... "
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Here's an interesting counterpoint to the graph above:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/27/infographic-android-fragmentation-visualized-if-you-like-biased-information-that-is/

It shows that the issue is more nuanced than either side likes to claim. Yes, Android fragmentation is real and is a problem for Google, the manufacturers and the consumers. The fact that Google has been lax in enforcing the vanilla Android OS and lets the phone manufacturers apply their proprietary skins just exacerbates the issue.

And fact of the matter is, sometimes the newest OS updates just isn't the best thing for any particular phone. Just ask iPhone 3G users who updated to iOS4. My wife had a 3G that was basically bricked when she updated because it made everything crawl. And I own a Droid Incredible that got worse when I updated to Gingerbread because HTC didn't fucking optimize it for Sense.

As for the graph, the writer mentions lower end phones like the Devour, BackFlip, Cliq XT, and Ally. These were phones targeted to lower-end users and not heavily marketed like the major flagship phones like the Droid, Incredible, Thunderbolt, Galaxy, etc. Those consumers bought the cheaper phones because they wanted Android but didn't want to break the bank for it. So they already know they're getting weaker hardware and, yes, less "future proofing."

It's unrealistic to expect *every* Android phone to be updated at all times. But yes, it is realistic to expect the major flagship phones to be supported for 18 months and/or the length of the contract. Like I said, fragmentation is real and is problematic, but the original chart clouds the nuances of the issue. Just look at the PC market. If you buy a Mac, you have a unified experience for both hardware and software but you're limited in options. If you opt for a PC, you have to deal with the reality of future-proofing and potentially unoptimized components. Same thing with the smartphone market, which honestly is still extremely young. Android's only been in the game for 3 years, and if the issue is still this bad in three more years then yes, Google (and the manufacturers) absolutely deserve to get lambasted for it. There's going to be growing pains for any burgeoning market, and this one is no different.

  

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200. "Another issue is that updates are handled differently."
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Apps like gmail, youtube, maps, and market aren't considered part of the Android OS and get upgraded on their own schedule. I'm sure I've gotten half a dozen maps updates this year alone.

iOS on the other hand only updates these apps when a new version of the OS drops.

Not a good comparison.

I think Google needs to move all of their core apps into this model. Especially the browser. Once they do this, the actual version of Android that's running under the hood becomes largely irrelevant to 80% of their users.

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207. "wouldn't they have to open source those apps though?"
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I think that's the whole reason those apps aren't part of the AOSP. They get paid to license
those apps to the manufacturers/carriers I believe

  

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208. "RE: Another issue is that updates are handled differently."
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>I think Google needs to move all of their core apps into this
>model. Especially the browser. Once they do this, the actual
>version of Android that's running under the hood becomes
>largely irrelevant to 80% of their users.

Actually the exact opposite would happen. Just look at the camera app for an example.
I was developing an app that used the camera API. Not only did I have to account for the
different Android versions, I also had to account for each manufactures implementation of the camera app.

Here is some light reading on the many issues with the camera app
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=7909
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7473984/android-sdk-nexus-s-native-camera-issue
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1480
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1910608/android-action-image-capture-intent

  

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201. "this is the part that got me."
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a lot of those older iphones run like SHIT after they get updated.

and you have no choice but to get it.

it cuts both ways.

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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202. "Has that been the case with iOS 5?"
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I know iOS 4 was awful but I haven't heard any of the same outcry.

  

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205. "honestly I haven't heard anything from anyone with a phone"
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beyond the 4.

and what i've heard are about battery draining issues and problems with contact sync, etc. of course, you only hear about the problems, so i don't know who isn't having problems.

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211. "i think iphone 4 upgraded to ios5 was fine"
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but i know a couple of ppl with 3gs who went to ios5 and oh brother.
but about half of them bought the 4s shortly after cause it was unbearable

..|.,

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203. "yeah if I payed as much foe those cheap android phones"
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as ppl did for their iPhones I'd want at least 2years support.

..|.,

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206. "Nice hands on video review:"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUeskeQPI9M&feature=player_embedded

Another example of face unlock (shoutout to ternary star)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNPvJbUXnwg

  

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210. "A response from Pentile (shoutout to handle)"
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http://pentileblog.com/uncategorized/pentile-for-720-hd-oled-smartphones/

I'm on my phone so no swipe

  

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212. "Looks like I am copping this"
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Some guy who is a moderator at Android Forums confirmed a November 17th release date for Verizon Wireless.

Had to return my iPhone 4S due to battery drain problems and told me I had to wait three weeks for a refurb so I did an outright return.

Looks like Ice Cream Sandwich covers most of my beefs with Android. And it looks like the Galaxy Nexus will get the upgrades first which is encouraging. So I will wait a few weeks.

  

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213. "Best hands on review I've seen yet."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBushsDO2-U

Damn I really can't wait for this phone to come out.

  

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"Looks like Nov. 17 is the day (swipe)"


  

          

http://phandroid.com/2011/11/03/samsung-galaxy-nexus-hitting-verizon-nov-17/


If those with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus on their wish lists want to frustrate themselves further, they need only continue reading this article. A supposedly work-in-progress memo to be sent out to Verizon employees next week is stating that the Galaxy Nexus will grace Verizon’s shelves November 17th, which is actually less frustrating then previous rumors that suggested we’d be waiting until after Black Friday. We get the feeling this sort of back-and-forth speculation will continue daily until the phone launches, whenever that may be.

  

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214. "Looks like Nov. 17 is the day (swipe)"
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http://phandroid.com/2011/11/03/samsung-galaxy-nexus-hitting-verizon-nov-17/


If those with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus on their wish lists want to frustrate themselves further, they need only continue reading this article. A supposedly work-in-progress memo to be sent out to Verizon employees next week is stating that the Galaxy Nexus will grace Verizon’s shelves November 17th, which is actually less frustrating then previous rumors that suggested we’d be waiting until after Black Friday. We get the feeling this sort of back-and-forth speculation will continue daily until the phone launches, whenever that may be.

  

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216. "The first reviews are starting up..."
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http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/17/galaxy-nexus-review-part-1-hardware-overview-video/

Some highlights:

The Galaxy Nexus is not only the most anticipated Android device of 2011, but perhaps the most desired smartphone of any kind this year. Google and Samsung have created a blank slate on which to showcase Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich — a form-fitting, high-resolution dual-core powerhouse blank slate, mind you — and care shows in every pore. The interface has been completely overhauled, hardware-accelerated and beautified. This is the first Android version we can confidently say is pretty.

Stop worrying about PenTile. The Galaxy Nexus has one of the most stunning screens we’ve ever seen. The pixels are so small as to be microscopic, and unless you utilize one you’re not going to see a PenTile grid. What you will see is sharp text, incredible viewing angles, perfect blacks and outstanding clarity. If this is the future of mobile displays we can only say, “It’s about time.”

Let’s start with colours. Reds, greens and blues are accurate; this isn’t your mother’s oversaturated Super AMOLED display. Either Google has done something with the colour temperature or Samsung has finely calibrated its parts but for the first time we can say that colour accuracy is equal to a Super LCD display. At full brightness whites are evenly toned, though they take on a slight yellow tinge at half brightness. Blacks stay true throughout owing to the AMOLED technology, and viewing angles are 180 degrees in all directions.

The dual-core TI OMAP 4460 SoC runs at 1.2Ghz, 300Mhz lower than the chip is traditionally clocked at, but it seems like Google has taken a page from iOS and is finally utilizing hardware acceleration throughout the UI. Unlike a custom skin which has taxing animations and garish flourishes, ICS pares down excess, exciting us with mature design decisions. Press down on the new software home button and a blue glow emanates from where your skin touched the display. It’s organic and friendly. Meander through your list of apps and the new page pops up like an old friend. We have noticed no slowdown or app instability.

Before we received the device, what troubled us was the idea of a last-generation GPU pushing 1280×720 pixels of the Galaxy Nexus’ screen — we can now say that fear is unfounded. We picked up and played a few games of Wind-up Knight and found it performed better in its native resolution than did the Motorola RAZR at 960×540. The RAZR uses the same GPU at a slightly slower speed, but has 40% fewer pixels. Google has done some serious tweaking to the graphics drivers to achieve such amazing results.

Battery Life

So far, so good. While we’ve only had the device with official software for a day, the Galaxy Nexus has held up remarkably well. It doesn’t hurt that the majority of Ice Cream Sandwich is dark, which means fewer pixels are actually turned on at any time, but Google and Samsung were wise to choose the TI OMAP 4460 chipset for the job; it has proven to be one of the most power-efficient on the market.

Call quality through the earpiece and speaker left us impressed: our recipients heard us loudly and clearly even while walking outside on a blustery fall day. Similarly the mono speaker on the back delivered loud, punchy audio in line with most of its Samsung kin.

A quick word on GPS: we used the free turn-by-turn navigation for over an hour with no signal jumps or losses. We obtained a signal in around eight seconds, and it never wavered.

What’s Next

In the coming days we will do a full in-depth review of the Android 4.0 software and its myriad improvements. Our initial impressions are good: this is the first time Android is visually contiguous throughout the OS, consistently fast and stable. Existing apps that haven’t been explicitly updated for ICS will see performance improvements and design changes; the menu is now at the top of the screen, dubbed the Action Bar.

The 5MP camera seems to take fantastic shots, and the speed at which they are taken is remarkable. It has been explained to us that Google and Samsung didn’t want to sacrifice shutter speed in place of a more capacious sensor, but five million pixels should suffice for most point-and-shooters. We’re going to take a look at the camera and video quality, and the new panorama mode.

From what little we’ve used of it, the keyboard has graciously been overhauled for the better. We really disliked the Gingerbread keyboard and so far have found this one not only extremely responsive but accurate and smart. Google has also revamped the copy-paste menu, so it’s no longer hold down-tap-hold down to perform a simple function.

  

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217. "No Gorilla Glass? No problem."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ

This shit always makes me cringe tho

  

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218. "And The Verge weighs in with text and video..."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKLaroZK6aI&feature=feedu

http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2568348/galaxy-nexus-review

  

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219. "not sure why they felt the need to rush out that review"
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on a pre production non lte version but whatever. good stuff.

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220. "It's a new site, so it looks like they're trying to grab clicks..."
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but pretty solid review nonetheless. Note that the phone is officially released in a lot of places, just not here yet (for some inexplicable reason... fuck you Verizon).

On a sidenote, wow, impressed with what The Verge is doing... live Q&A going on right now with the author in the same review link... no need to log in, just jump right in and ask questions

  

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221. "yeah the review was even-keeled but it was still annoying."
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Love,
Nopayne

  

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224. "They used the phone Samsung gave them to review"
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That's just how those things work.

Not to mention the majority of the world isn't using LTE, anyway.

  

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222. "NFC tags... holy shit, didn't know this exists"
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Late pass me, but this makes me even more excited for this phone:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/weekend_project_make_your_own_nfc_tags.php

  

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223. "I might be rejoining Android nation. The Galaxy Nexus is the deal"
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but I'm thoroughly impressed with the look of ICS.
Shit looks light years better than anything up to this point.


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