So my OG SPrint Pre started crapping out on me. Volume would either stick on maximum or minimum. Unfortunately the notification would stay on the screen and not let you so anything else. It seemed to be a problem with no real fix, rhyme or reason according to some forums. So now I'm faced with a 2 year old phone that isn't getting upgraded by Palm, isn't being offered anymore by Sprint, and isn't worth the hassle of getting repaired. I had to choose between ordering another used one off ebay for $75, or cutting my loses and jumping ship to Android.

Not fun

I absolutely LOVED WebOS. While there were a few quirks, the shit just worked, and worked well. Cards, flicks, multitasking.... but it could never (and still may never) reach its potential with Palm (and now HP) running it on underpowered, outdated, outclassed hardware. There's no word on whether SPrint would even bother carrying the Pre3, and whenever it drops, it's already going to be so badly outshined by damn near every other phone out there. Tap to Share? Nice, but it looks like the same 2 year old phone and still has an app store with tumbleweeds.

So now I'm off to the Sprint store to join the dark side and get an android phone. Talk about a forced upgrade

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thought I heard some "RA-RA-RA!!!" talk about HP dropping some new goodness while licensing it out to other companies for more possibilities of tablets & phones in the future but never paid enough attention to know if the issue of any phones in the hear-n-now to go against Android & WP7 ever came up

Verizon has the Pre2, which is a slight spec bump but still behind the tech curve. There's the Veer on ATT, but come on... I don't want a Centro remix. The Pre3 is supposed to be their newest phone, but it may drop late August, but no firm word on what carrier (and most likely not Sprint). I don't think switching a carrier for a phone makes sense for me, so going to Verizon or AT&T on the off chance the phone may get carried doesn't add up. So, $75 for a used Pre, or $100 on an Evo or Evo Shift...

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Bad enough HP is looking to get into an uphill battle against the Android phone folks as well as WP7 probably surpassing their marketshare @ this point. No updated hardware this far in '11 looks to be a downer since I'm sure there's many other folks like yourself who's jumping ship to something else not necessarily because it's better but because it's there & it'll support their needs.

Which doesnt mean other carriers dont
Also technically doesnt mean vzw will release it/market it
But yea august seems right

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after i got a galaxy tab 7inch, i love the apps and all, but its buggy as shyt.
find myself missing webos everytime im on that thing.
i think hp will get its act together, and by the time i need a new phone/tablet, they'll have some heat out there.
palm didn't have the luxury of alot of product cycles. hp can churn it out when it gets in a groove.
you'll be back in 24 months or sooner.

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i'm looking at getting one.

>after i got a galaxy tab 7inch, i love the apps and all, but
>its buggy as shyt.
>find myself missing webos everytime im on that thing.
>i think hp will get its act together, and by the time i need a
>new phone/tablet, they'll have some heat out there.
>palm didn't have the luxury of alot of product cycles. hp can
>churn it out when it gets in a groove.
>you'll be back in 24 months or sooner.

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maybe its the diff launcher and shyt i use, but shyt just freezes up form time to time.
dont get me wrong, i love the tab. actually returned the first one i bought and bought it again off contract, missed it alot.
just wish it ran webos stuff.
if your used to android on your phone, you fine prolly.

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See, I can see buying a Touchpad for that reason. WebOS works beautifully on a tablet. At least in theory. Right now it's as twitchy as the OG Pre when it dropped. Let them get an update or 2 out and drop the price and I'd cop no problem. As it stands I can wait to see a redesign if and when it happens.

As for the phone, they have a year to win me back.

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the only issue I have with mine is it crashing on certain websites. HP is releasing a update on the 29th to fix a few issues. They have opened up to all suggestions and criticisms and will release more updates. The preware internalz group have corrected some of the issues and my touchpad is now faster then it was out of the box.
Maybe im bias, but webOS is the better tablet OS out there. It just feels like it was made for a larger device. I can see this running on a PC in a few years.

they need to step up with more apps asap, starting with a google plus app.


, I can see buying a Touchpad for that reason. WebOS works
>beautifully on a tablet. At least in theory. Right now it's as
>twitchy as the OG Pre when it dropped. Let them get an update
>or 2 out and drop the price and I'd cop no problem. As it
>stands I can wait to see a redesign if and when it happens.
>
>As for the phone, they have a year to win me back.

i wonder how long googs will hold off on releasing on other platforms
which website crashes for you? does it craah on pre?
whats your name on precentral?

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back.

i don't see an economic model that allows webOS to compete w/ android. even if is superior in a lot of ways.

android is free and hp don't have the clout to deal with that.

7-800 for a tablet or i can root my $250 nook color and k.i.m.


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and i smell it going down to 400 soon.
wonder what the 7inch pricepoint will be.

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HP is giving $50 off on the 32gb model for those who owned a previous webOS device and have a Palm Profile. Best Buy is was giving 50 off on both models and so were a few other online sites.

50gb of online storage from box.net. Free, for life.
I loaded Preware and im already taking advantage of the patches and apps that are out there.

I love my mine.



>and i smell it going down to 400 soon.
>wonder what the 7inch pricepoint will be.

what do you hate and like?
slow bugs overhyped or real?

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the back is a finger print magnet, but I have no reason to look at the back and I now have a case, so fuck the back of it all together.

lack of a large app catalog. I didn't have that many apps on my pre and not looking for many now. The Sports Illustrated Magazine app (love this) and Angry Birds are what I use mostly. The others are for my kids.

No rear camera but I always thought that was a lame feature on tablets.

The only bug I ran into was a webpage crashing. It crashes pretty much everytime I visit the page, but only that one page. I read the PreCentral forums daily and others are experiencing it as well. HP is asking everyone to report the page they are visiting and they will work on fixing it. Other than that, it runs smooth. The reviews I read seem overly biased towards whats already out on the market. One reviewer from Engadget said it was too heavy and could wear on your arm. It weighs 1.7lbs (Ipad 1.3)!

My intent when I bought it was for web use, video and music. The Pre tether app on my phone allows me to use it away from my home wifi and depending on the location Im in, surfing the web is a breeze. Listening to Google music tethered works well too. I don't see anyone leaving the Ipad for this but I think it will intrigue new comers looking for an alternative to take a strong look at it once more apps are added.
Multitasking is hands down the best thing going for it now. Everything good you read or heard about it is true. Card stacking is great (tab web browsing coming), Beats Audio (speakers sounds really good). Flash support!

And one of the big reasons I wouldn't have much problem going for the Touchpad as is. WebOS doesn't seem to have a problem scaling up or down relative to the hardware it's running on. It just needs better hardware to run on! Not that I have a problem with the Touchpad as is, per se. Just think it makes more sense at a lower price point right now, and that they put together a nicer version for version 2

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Game: Like Gladys Knight.
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

I liked having my mail, browser, and tapatalk client up and running and being able to swipe between all of them, instead of having them paused in the background. Hold home for recent or background running programs isn't quite the same. Sounds like a small thing, but in practice it's huge

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Jay: Look here homie, any nigga can get a hit record. This here is about respect.
Game: Like Gladys Knight.
Jay: Aretha Franklin.
Game: Word, I like her too.
Jay: Nigga...

and quitting apps with ease is a big thing too for me.
rich im surprised you dont miss it as much.

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Like I told my wife (who has Verizon's Pre+) it's one of those things where if you never had it, you wouldn't know. But not having it hurts like hell. It's probably the single biggest thing I miss. Swiping gestures is second (but I can at least get used to that as it's a different OS),

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Game: Like Gladys Knight.
Jay: Aretha Franklin.
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rich=rjcc, im pretty sure he had a pre

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sure I miss the UI, I just had no idea what you were talking about.


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Already missing my Pre. Though I must say having a crapton of apps that work out the gate is nice. No true multitasking is a bitch though. You won't notice if you never had it, but coming from the Pre, that's the biggest annoyance i'm going to have with this thing. I can't help feeling that if WebOS was running on a phone like this it would kick some serious ass. WM7 wouldn't stand a chance an dthey may be able to survive.

That said, the future is looking bleak as shit. If they have some heat and Sprint comes back around by time it's upgrade time for me, I can see going back. Then again, a lot can happen in 12-24 months, and if HP doesn't get their shit together that may not be an option.

Time to order Tapatalk and 5 versions of Angry Birds, I suppose...

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Jay: Look here homie, any nigga can get a hit record. This here is about respect.
Game: Like Gladys Knight.
Jay: Aretha Franklin.
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Jay: Nigga...

I can't really rock w/ it for that reason.


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understood it to offer just as good if not better real-time performance then the original Evo thanks to the improved GPU over those last gen snapdragons.

It was either that or the Epic, and I have a thing about Samsungs. So yeah, I get a slower processor, no front camera, but a real keyboard. Nothing's perfect.



The sad thing is, I've been using the in screen keyboard more than the physical one. WTF?

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Game: Like Gladys Knight.
Jay: Aretha Franklin.
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Nigga was NOT caught up in all this pentiplplaquadcore
processor bullshit

Nigga decided what HE NEEDED and COPPED something that
was out and REASONABLE for HIS NEEDS

I was gonna cop the Shift but just decided I'd give
the touchscreen a try....so far the touch screen shit
is decent, but I definitely do miss having a real
keyboard...I definitely don't text or write as easily
as I would with a keyboard...but its not that bad

Not really bothered by the Shift's slower specs, since
its not relevant at all and isn't really noticeable
with any existing programs like that (and won't be for
a few years, really)

I'm happy with the EVO 4G, but definitely can't be
mad at the Shift






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I might try again, but it just don't seem to work
for me

swype seems to pick the wrong words all the time so it takes longer always having to hit the swype button to switch the word.

>I might try again, but it just don't seem to work
>for me

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I erase a word and it still will come up. Drives me insane so I rarely use it.

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It's not as if there's a wide variety of keyboard android phones out there. That said, I wasn't going to be swayed by the latest touch screen, even if the salesman had the EVO 3D ready to go. So I can live with the features I don't have (slower processor, so be it, no front camera, never had one, no HDMI out, probably wasn't going to use that often). At that point it was choosing between Samsung and HTC, and I've been a fan of HTC phones for years (even if I never owned one personally).

So I'm happy with the phone. Just sad it means the loss of WebOS.

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Jay: Aretha Franklin.
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Jay: Nigga...

This touchscreen shit is awful

Can barely type a coherent message

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First off, a PSA: smartphones and riding mowers do not mix. The More You Know...

Next, the phone. HTC knows how to build a phone. This shit just feels solid in a way my Pre never could. It's not without it's faults, mind you. The slider doesn't quite have that positive spring loaded snap at the end (though it doesn't feel like it's going to move while in place), I've got to get used to the spacing on the keypad, the power button is on a weird angle, making hitting it wonky, and the volume button always gets hit when I use the keyboard. Small niggles aside, the phone has a nice balance, weight, and feel like something you would want to carry around. It's about the thickness of my ipod classic, so it's not too bad, and it doesn't look like I'm carrying around a pop tart with a screen like the Evo.

This Android shit is something. It really is something techy people can get behind with everything you can tweak and install. While I am used to the clean home screen WebOS gave you, the ability to have a shitload of programs and widgets available off the break is nice. It's going to take a while to figure out exactly how I want those 7 screens set up, especially since there seems to be no rhyme or reason for the sized of some of these widgets. Navigation, settings, and notifications aren't close to the ease of WebOS, and the multitasking bit is a no win for Android or iOS. If you never used it, it really is that big a difference. Swiping between shit beats multiple taps everyday. But, the plethora of apps ease that pain to a degree. Since Google is trying to rule the world, it makes sense it integrated every desktop application on it. That's something that, while Big Brother is definitely watching, I can really appreciate. Calendar and contacts? No problem. Blogger updates? Sure. Gmail? D'uh! Google Music? Love it. Everything isn't quite polished, mind you, but there really is the sense you can do damn near anything with this little 3.6 inch slider.

This phone really makes me mad at Palm/HP. I've said it before, and so have others. But if they put WebOS on hardware like this, it would win. Then they may attract customers, and attract developers, and survive. I really want them to survive. If I had money to throw away I'd have the Touchpad right now. Maybe HP will get their head out their ass and either license the OS or actually make a phone people will want to buy. If so, and they are around when my reup time comes, I'd consider switching back. Until then, I'm sadly going with the darkside.

Imma have to blog this at some point

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since at this point it's an uphill battle against WP7 for that precious spot.

Who knows. They may get some traction with their touched, then get a phone that doesn't look like a pre. A design language change is in order

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Jay: Look here homie, any nigga can get a hit record. This here is about respect.
Game: Like Gladys Knight.
Jay: Aretha Franklin.
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Jay: Nigga...

But they really disappointed me on the hardware side. It coulda been a contenda, but they've waited WAY TOO LONG for proper hardware. They should have had the Pre 3 out a year ago. Now that they've let WM7 come out (which I also like as well) they are so far behind the 8 ball that they'll probably never recover. Hopefully though they can steal some of BlackBerry 's market share, because at least their OS is innovative.

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Never Tired, Always Sleepy

No rooting either. Still miss WebOS, but shit like this definitely eases the pain a bit...

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Game: Like Gladys Knight.
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