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"Official 2009 WWDC Post. Boom"
Mon Jun-08-09 12:45 AM by jetblack

  

          

It's that time again.

WWDC 2009! We talking iPhone OS, iPhone 3GS (3G Video), Mac OS X Snow Leopard, MacBooks(time for updatery), Tablets(not likely) and the return of Steven P. Jobs!

Bring your news, opinions and unbridled hate here.

with that out of the way..have an appleinsider swipe.

John Gruber of Daring Fireball hears that the upcoming models have been given the codename "iPhone 3GS," though whether this is simply an internal Apple moniker or the final naming scheme is uncertain. What the the "S" might mean is just as indeterminate; Gruber speculates that it may be "speed," an allusion to the faster processor and additional RAM that have repeatedly been rumored as part of the update.

New, however, is an assertion that the upgraded models will have extended battery life. The new models will reportedly have "15-20 percent" more useful lifespan between charges than the iPhone 3G, addressing a common complaint about today's handsets.

The writer also recapitulates expectations for other features based on his unnamed sources, which echo many other reports: he anticipates 16GB and 32GB models priced at $199 and $299 respectively, and believes that Apple will emphasize video editing as one of the most important software features.

Turning more towards speculation, he adds that cheaper iPhones are likely but that he suspects any move on Apple's part is more likely to entail a large price cut on the existing 8GB iPhone 3G, which could drop to as low as $99 on a contract. Any genuinely redesigned product to fit the category isn't likely so soon, Gruber believes.

While the late outline of Apple's plans for Monday hasn't been corroborated elsewhere, the blogger has had an accurate track record as of late, detailing Apple's exact plans for unibody MacBooks just hours before they became official the same day.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Engadget Updates
Jun 08th 2009
1
Mac Rumors Live Updates
Jun 08th 2009
2
What time does it start?
Jun 08th 2009
3
10am pacific, 1pm easterm
Jun 08th 2009
4
your hate is welcomed
Jun 08th 2009
5
lol blog link?
Jun 08th 2009
7
anchor plz.
Jun 08th 2009
6
you should know by now this isn't happening
Jun 08th 2009
12
      lol
Jun 08th 2009
13
           i stopped asking.
Jun 08th 2009
17
                ^^^PRETTY MUCH
Jun 08th 2009
51
cannot wait for a 32gb iphone
Jun 08th 2009
8
RE: cannot wait for a 32gb iphone
Jun 08th 2009
9
Yessir! Steve got his HGH on, so dude will come back diesel. LMAO
Jun 08th 2009
10
That would be fucking awesome. He comes all roided out
Jun 08th 2009
11
Can someone break down how I can get the new 32GB
Jun 08th 2009
14
You should be able to cope at the discount price. Your two year
Jun 08th 2009
15
im pretty sure...
Jun 08th 2009
16
Yeah, hopefully they do that again.
Jun 08th 2009
18
There's a rumor that only first gen iPhone users will get the full disco...
Jun 08th 2009
21
      So $400? Meh, I can live with that
Jun 08th 2009
22
           From Engadget:
Jun 08th 2009
23
                Oh shit. I may be getting a new laptop and
Jun 08th 2009
33
                     I know right?
Jun 08th 2009
35
bootleg stream
Jun 08th 2009
19
RE: bootleg stream
Jun 08th 2009
20
the applestore off being updated right now
Jun 08th 2009
24
This happens at every conference. That new new is getting added.
Jun 08th 2009
25
Ugh. Get to the iPhone already.
Jun 08th 2009
26
^^^^^^^
Jun 08th 2009
27
Holy shit $29
Jun 08th 2009
28
Right! That's dope. $49 for family pack. Whoa.
Jun 08th 2009
31
IPHONE TIME
Jun 08th 2009
29
Pat on the back shit:
Jun 08th 2009
30
iPhone Firmware 3.0 shit:
Jun 08th 2009
36
wrap that shit up, b!
Jun 08th 2009
32
MMS later this summer!?!? WTF ATT?
Jun 08th 2009
34
yeah, fail.
Jun 08th 2009
38
:)
Jun 08th 2009
41
lol @ the groan
Jun 08th 2009
37
It was warranted tho. ATT is effin up!
Jun 08th 2009
39
Groan - part 2. ATT isn't tethering
Jun 08th 2009
42
      Jailbroken phones have it. They charge for tethering
Jun 08th 2009
50
           True.
Jun 08th 2009
71
TETHERING.
Jun 08th 2009
40
omg - no tethering for AT&T.
Jun 08th 2009
44
Will AT&T let that fly tho?
Jun 08th 2009
45
nope
Jun 08th 2009
49
but not on AT&T lolz
Jun 08th 2009
48
lol I dont get it, what does that mean.
Jun 08th 2009
58
fuckin at&t
Jun 08th 2009
43
do other AT&T phones support MMS?
Jun 08th 2009
46
yep.
Jun 08th 2009
47
      then how is it their fault?
Jun 08th 2009
61
Find my iPhone = awesome:
Jun 08th 2009
52
Im mad it's mobileme only
Jun 08th 2009
54
someone should just write an app for that...
Jun 08th 2009
60
are there really that many jackasses losing their phones out there....
Jun 08th 2009
55
Dope. Conspiracy theorist will have a field day.
Jun 08th 2009
56
remote killswitch is cool also.
Jun 08th 2009
57
Pre had it first, though.
Jun 08th 2009
      wrong.
Jun 08th 2009
167
it is but the erase function is kind of pointless
Jun 08th 2009
63
      Better than them having your personal info
Jun 08th 2009
69
      yeah but you still wont have your phone
Jun 08th 2009
72
           lol
Jun 08th 2009
78
           either way the info is probably worth more than the phone. n/m
Jun 08th 2009
91
      yeah...
Jun 08th 2009
82
Oh wow @ "Find My Phone"
Jun 08th 2009
53
Did you find an update stream>
Jun 08th 2009
59
      I'm just refreshing Engadget on my phone
Jun 08th 2009
62
           lol I'll stop copying and pasting then
Jun 08th 2009
64
                thank you tho
Jun 08th 2009
65
                     no prob lol
Jun 08th 2009
67
*sends text to stolen iphone* "I KNOW YOU GOT MY PHONE MOTHERFUCKER!"
Jun 08th 2009
66
Liam Nielson "MY IPHONE HAS BEEN TAKEN"
Jun 08th 2009
68
      LMAO
Jun 08th 2009
70
           Remember in the Aliens movie the Motion Tracker and Motion Detector?
Jun 08th 2009
79
                hell yeah.....LMFAO
Jun 08th 2009
87
Iceberg: DO NOT WANT.
Jun 08th 2009
73
i bet they're going to have us wait another month for 3.0
Jun 08th 2009
74
I think you're prolly right.
Jun 08th 2009
76
      June 17 - not bad at all.
Jun 08th 2009
92
Wow these app demos are boring
Jun 08th 2009
75
where are you checking the updates?
Jun 08th 2009
84
      engadget and macrumorslive
Jun 08th 2009
86
      you can see and hear the keynote via that bootleg post ^^^ there
Jun 08th 2009
89
TomTom: DO WANT.
Jun 08th 2009
77
looks awesome. and the cradle charges it too, nice nice
Jun 08th 2009
80
hell yes, with available car app that charges...ding!
Jun 08th 2009
81
plays music through the speakers too.
Jun 11th 2009
202
I'm punching a baby for every additional app demo...
Jun 08th 2009
83
RE: I'm punching a baby for every additional app demo...
Jun 08th 2009
85
The great boring conga line of Iphone apps
Jun 08th 2009
88
lol@Sawyer playing guitar
Jun 08th 2009
90
3.0 - 6/17
Jun 08th 2009
93
a.k.a. no iPhone 3rd gen until July.
Jun 08th 2009
95
      were we to expect it any earlier than the customary July drop date?
Jun 08th 2009
118
           *reads next update* *opens mouth, inserts foot*
Jun 08th 2009
123
June 17th, not awful.
Jun 08th 2009
94
still sucks
Jun 08th 2009
97
this better lead to announcement of new model...
Jun 08th 2009
96
and...
Jun 08th 2009
99
Well this was a waste of my time.
Jun 08th 2009
98
3GS!
Jun 08th 2009
100
faster proc, 3MP autofocus cam...
Jun 08th 2009
101
      Tap to focus is a cool idea.
Jun 08th 2009
103
      and video!
Jun 08th 2009
104
wooow at tap to focus.
Jun 08th 2009
102
Video! 30fps, 640x480, autofocus.
Jun 08th 2009
105
man do i hate at&t
Jun 08th 2009
107
Damn @ voice control.
Jun 08th 2009
106
as if other phones havent had this feature for 4 years...
Jun 08th 2009
110
all about the implementation.
Jun 08th 2009
113
they didnt have it this way
Jun 08th 2009
114
nopayne is going to come tell you the opposite
Jun 08th 2009
111
but would I be wrong?
Jun 08th 2009
115
You mean they're catching up. I mean voice control? Video? MMS?
Jun 08th 2009
116
      Other phones doing 30fps high-quality VGA video?
Jun 08th 2009
122
           I suppose if you don't count Windows Mobile phones as competitors
Jun 08th 2009
132
           lol, LG's Viewty did 60 FPS and included slow-mo option
Jun 08th 2009
145
                I mean, Triptych is a tech savvy dude and even HE fell for the RDF
Jun 08th 2009
150
                     You'd consider the viewty a major competitor?
Jun 09th 2009
199
                          No, but the N95 shipped over 2 years ago with those features
Jun 09th 2009
200
HAHAHA @ no front facing camera.... what a joke
Jun 08th 2009
108
no front facing camera is a fail? the fuck crack you smokin, son?
Jun 08th 2009
125
im smokin that chronic, that palm pre ish
Jun 08th 2009
154
we ain't seeing video conferencing for a while
Jun 08th 2009
139
All this shit is showing the old case design...
Jun 08th 2009
109
very small difference
Jun 08th 2009
126
compass + self-orienting map= pile of awesome
Jun 08th 2009
112
Android.
Jun 08th 2009
120
      Shame the OS only comes on plastic matte bricks so far
Jun 08th 2009
129
           ^ mad
Jun 08th 2009
135
                ^mad your phone is a bucket
Jun 08th 2009
142
                he asked about a feature and I provided an answer.
Jun 08th 2009
146
                ^mad your phone is a bucket
Jun 08th 2009
$299 for 32gb, $200 for 16gb
Jun 08th 2009
117
whoa, available in a week and half
Jun 08th 2009
121
      yup, 6/19. wowsers
Jun 08th 2009
124
           wonder how long lines will be this time. either way, i'll be patient
Jun 08th 2009
130
                at least 3.0 will hold me over
Jun 08th 2009
131
                     true, 3.0 has the goods to hold me over
Jun 08th 2009
136
                          That about sums it up for me as well.
Jun 08th 2009
162
                               the main draw for me is 32 gigs
Jun 08th 2009
178
                                    I can feel that. I've tried to overcome the storage space limits
Jun 08th 2009
181
                                         yeah, simplify is a great app
Jun 08th 2009
184
$199 16GB / $299 32GB
Jun 08th 2009
119
8GB 3G $99 starting today
Jun 08th 2009
128
Alright - imma need a hell of a One More Thing.
Jun 08th 2009
127
3Gs - same design is a disappointment. at least bring matte back
Jun 08th 2009
133
vocie control = more schzos talking in public
Jun 08th 2009
134
yeah I expect ShopSavvy to get ported pronto
Jun 08th 2009
137
the 3G S ad
Jun 08th 2009
138
C'hea
Jun 08th 2009
140
I think I'm gonna get a new Macbook
Jun 08th 2009
141
So that's it, huh?
Jun 08th 2009
143
question is, will At&t let 3G owners upgrade to 3GS at $199/$299
Jun 08th 2009
144
yup. im not eligable until December
Jun 08th 2009
147
      is that what was said at the conference? or is this your guess?
Jun 08th 2009
151
           RE: is that what was said at the conference? or is this your guess?
Jun 08th 2009
180
lol @ people around the web mad as fuck at this weak ass phone
Jun 08th 2009
148
iPhone 3GS - Video Tour on Apple.com
Jun 08th 2009
149
ONE MORE THING!! OMG!!
Jun 08th 2009
152
and there it is
Jun 08th 2009
153
unbelievable, fuck at&t and apple, how could they do shit like this?
Jun 08th 2009
155
Do you know how subsidies work? lol
Jun 08th 2009
157
      You cant seriously be justifying this move...
Jun 08th 2009
159
      um, its not much different for any other phone out there
Jun 08th 2009
165
           except that apple is releasing this now
Jun 08th 2009
174
                1st gen iphones weren't subsidized
Jun 08th 2009
183
                     im almost certain there was a special deal for those upgrading
Jun 08th 2009
185
                          It wasn't a "special deal"
Jun 08th 2009
192
      really? that's why you sing another 2 yr deal. why did apple/at&t do thi...
Jun 08th 2009
161
      Read it again, man. They did.
Jun 08th 2009
193
      Paying the ETF, swiching to the Pre is still cheaper than an upgrade
Jun 08th 2009
173
           Well then what's the problem?
Jun 08th 2009
182
           I think it used to be $150 flat
Jun 10th 2009
201
Well then, Macbook Pro it is.
Jun 08th 2009
156
pretty much.
Jun 08th 2009
164
What if you buy the phone from an apple store?
Jun 08th 2009
158
no
Jun 08th 2009
160
wamp
Jun 08th 2009
168
Safari 4 is fast as hell. Google Chrome fast.
Jun 08th 2009
163
The welcome is dope.
Jun 08th 2009
166
I'm just glad they moved the tabs back beneath the menu bar.
Jun 08th 2009
169
      Yep.
Jun 08th 2009
170
      it's clean.
Jun 08th 2009
171
      Hail yeah! I hated the tabs up top.
Jun 08th 2009
179
Haven't tried Chrome, but this is noticeably faster
Jun 09th 2009
197
Watch it.
Jun 08th 2009
172
Nelson, Barry Obama's cousin demos the '3G S' for you.
Jun 08th 2009
175
F&*k AT&T
Jun 08th 2009
176
$149 16GB iPhone 3Gs.
Jun 08th 2009
177
umm I thought the keynote said $199?
Jun 08th 2009
186
      3G S no. 3G yes.
Jun 08th 2009
187
           ah okay. plural 3G is what you meant.
Jun 08th 2009
188
                1st addition to 3G to 3GS???
Jun 08th 2009
189
                you could prolly trade it in for an editional charge
Jun 08th 2009
190
                     lol. evil.
Jun 08th 2009
191
                16GB 3G = $149.
Jun 09th 2009
196
Wow....a phone with video how groundbreaking.
Jun 09th 2009
194
Video editing.
Jun 09th 2009
195
whatever dude, that 13-inch macbook pro is sick
Jun 09th 2009
198

jetblack
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1. "Engadget Updates"
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/phil-schiller-keynote-live-from-wwdc-2009/

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2. "Mac Rumors Live Updates "
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http://www.macrumorslive.com/

that is if they don't pwned again Lulz.

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3. "What time does it start?"
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Maybe I'll liveblog my vitriol

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4. "10am pacific, 1pm easterm"
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bring it.

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5. "your hate is welcomed"
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6. "anchor plz."
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12. "you should know by now this isn't happening"
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17. "i stopped asking."
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if it isnt xbox related, no anchor.

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51. "^^^PRETTY MUCH"
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8. "cannot wait for a 32gb iphone"
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got the iphone 2g the first day it was released here, held off on the 3g cos it wasn't enough of an upgrade for me. The added speed and battery life would be nice but I really really need that extra space. To be honest 64gb is really what I would need.

Don't see how people won't be disappointed though, whether it's lower specs than expected or a late release date, I bet there's gonna be some semi-hate flowing through on the twitterverse today.

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9. "RE: cannot wait for a 32gb iphone"
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>Don't see how people won't be disappointed though, whether
>it's lower specs than expected or a late release date, I bet
>there's gonna be some semi-hate flowing through on the
>twitterverse today.

As usual. The only people that are semi excited are iPhone owners and
wannabe owners. Everybody else points and laughs.


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10. "Yessir! Steve got his HGH on, so dude will come back diesel. LMAO"
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11. "That would be fucking awesome. He comes all roided out"
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Sweater busting at the seams

  

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14. "Can someone break down how I can get the new 32GB"
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and I'm still under my 2 year contract for the first iphone I brought. I will have to pay full price right?


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15. "You should be able to cope at the discount price. Your two year"
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contract should be ending soon so you should be good.

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16. "im pretty sure..."
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you can just buy one at the discounted price by extending your contract 2 years (from now).
my friend had the OG iphone and did that when the 3G dropped.
they essentially canceled his old contract and signed him up for a new 2 year.

  

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18. "Yeah, hopefully they do that again."
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I'm all over a 32GB if they drop that.

  

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21. "There's a rumor that only first gen iPhone users will get the full disco..."
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and 3G iPhone owners will pay a $100 premium to upgrade.

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22. "So $400? Meh, I can live with that"
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As long as it's not any higher than $400, I'm good.

Could somebody update this post though? All the tech sites are blocked at the job and I don't wanna drain my phone's battery (something that I'm hoping they're improving with this new model).

  

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11:10AM Peer-to-peer. Wirelessly over Bluetooth, no pairing needed. Doesn't look like this is any different than what we saw at the 3.0 event.

11:09AM Free apps remain free. In App purchase is only for paid apps. Only ever. Forever. Okay

11:09AM "These are only a few of the tools that we offer in 3.0. The SDK has more than a 1000 new APIs... let me talk you through a few, starting with in-app purchases

11:08AM "Now, if it is lost or stolen, you can send a remote wipe command which will delete all of your data." Big cheers.

11:07AM You can send a message to the phone. You can send a message to your phone which plays a sound as well, whether or not it's in silent mode. "If you're like me, and it shows you that your phone is at your house, the alert still plays until you find that your kids hid it under the couch."

11:06AM "Hopefully you haven't had a 30 Rock experience, but this is why we created Find My iPhone. If you lose or misplace the phone, you can login to MobileMe on any browser and it will show you where the phone is." Wow -- big applause.

11:05AM Find My iPhone. "This is a great one. If you've ever misplaced or lost your phone, it can be... somewhat traumatic." Ha! A scene from 30 Rock.

11:05AM Adding new languages... more than 30 languages supported in OS 3.0. Okay. Sweet.



11:04AM "We have been driving and tracking the HTML 5 standard, and now we're adding support for new standards like audio and video tags."

11:03AM "Next, AutoFill -- you can now remember user names and passwords to login to websites. We also use your contact info to fill out web forms."

11:03AM "Next up, Safari. SunSpider benchmark. In iPhone OS 3.0, we run JavaScript almost 3 times faster. Next, support for HTTP streaming audio and video."



11:02AM The audience is not happy.

11:02AM "This works with Macs and PCs, wired over USB, or wireless with Bluetooth. It is a seamless experience. There's no need to run any software once it's turned on. This requires carrier support. We have 22 partners in 44 countries..." No mention of AT&T. What!?

11:01AM Tethering! "This allows you to share you connection with your computer."

11:00AM "We've also added support for iTunes U right on the phone. Next, important additions to parental controls. We've added control over a number of items, most importantly, ratings control for movies and TV, as well as apps."

10:59AM "This is great if you're getting ready to get on a flight, you can purchase and download right at the airport."



10:59AM "Next up, Spotlight. You can search anything on your phone, including apps. Next, iTunes. You'll now be able to rent and purchase movies right from your phone."

10:58AM "29 carriers will support MMS when we launch... AT&T will be ready at the end of the Summer." Laughter. What? End of Summer? You're kidding us, right?

10:57AM "Next is landscape. Since 1.0 we've had support for this in Safari. Now we're taking this to our key apps." Smattering of applause. Seems like most people know about this. Now Scott is on to MMS. Less than a smattering of applause, a droplet of applause.



10:56AM Now mentioning shake to undo, developer APIs, Cocoa Touch support for text.

10:55AM "Let's talk about iPhone OS 3.0. Let me highlight just a few, starting with cut copy and paste." Now we're running through the demo from the iPhone 3.0 event.

10:55AM Big, big applause. The devs like that. And hey, why not? They deserve some credit!

10:54AM Now they're showing users... "My favorite app is..."

10:54AM So the soundtrack to this video sounds like Arcade Fire... but it's not Arcade Fire. Let's hope Arcade Fire doesn't find out.

10:53AM "Sometimes I have to stop and say, 'whoa, this is a mobile device I'm developing for' because it feels like a desktop."



10:52AM "I was at a baseball game, and they showed a commercial for my app, and I watched a bunch of fans pull out their phones and start downloading the game right there."


10:51AM "It's always been my dream to travel around and make my own games... I knew the iPhone was going to be something special."

10:50AM We're seeing a highlight reel of successful developers. This is pretty emotional stuff. We're getting some tissue out, just in case.

10:50AM "We put a video together to share stories from developers..." A little video now.

10:49AM "These customers love running and downloading apps from the App Store. We hit 1 billion downloads, and that's just in 9 months."



10:49AM "We've been working hard to to build a growing user base. These apps run on all iPhones and iPod touches. We've sold more than 40m iPhones and iPod touches."

10:48AM "The response from devs on the iPhone has been staggering. They've been prolific in building and posting apps to the App Store. There's now more than 50,000 apps in the store."

10:48AM "Alright, let's talk about the iPhone."

10:47AM "Now I'd like to turn to Scott... for the iPhone." Here we go kids. Hang on to your hats.

10:47AM "$29 for Leopard users, and a family pack is $49. It will be available this September, and today we're making a dev preview available."

10:46AM "So Exchange support requires Exchange 2007 servers. We offer it at no extra charge, it's built-in to Snow Leopard. So that's Exchange and this is a little tour of some of the new features of the OS. It will be available for all Intel Macs, past and present. So how should we price Snow Leopard? We want all Leopard users to upgrade to this, so we are pricing at $29." Huge huge applause. But of course, we knew this, didn't we?

10:39AM "Now let's talk graphics. The way to use GPU power is OpenGL, but we want to move beyond that. We've devised a technology called OpenCL..." Uh huh. Sounds familiar.

10:38AM Now looking at threads in Leopard compared to Snow Leopard. "It uses more threads when busy, but when idle, they all go away, unlike Leopard, where they remain. It's a big win in responsiveness."



10:37AM "Let's talk multi-core CPUs. The challenge is how to take advantage of them. The answer is threads. So we have a solution for this. Grand Central Dispatch. It's built-in support for multi-core all across Leopard."

10:36AM "All the major system apps run in 64-bit mode in Snow Leopard."



10:35AM "To take advantage of all this, you need the right software. So first, 64-bit. The obvious reason is to take advantage of a lot of memory. When you run in 64-bit, the memory limit is... 16 billion GB. It's unlimited."

10:34AM "So lots of refinements in Snow Leopard. But there's also powerful new technologies. They take advantage of the power of silicon. When you look at a modern Mac, there are things that weren't possible just a few years ago."

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10:34AM "Thank you!"

10:33AM You can grab ends of the clip region you want to trim, then just cut it right down. Export quickly to MobileMe, etc.

10:33AM "QuickTime is designed to put your video center stage. As soon as I start playing, the controls and titlebar fade away. When I want to go back, they fade back in. Another great feature is the ability to trim and share my video... I get a visual timeline." Audience: ahhhhh.


10:32AM "The final area of Safari I'd like to cover is full history search. I just click in the lower right, and I get a cover flow view across my browsing history. But I also have full spotlight search too."

10:31AM "Next up, Safari 4. It is the fastest browser on any platform. And that extends to JavaScript. Let's look at Google Maps." Wow, super fast -- they aren't joking.



10:30AM Now showing off new Expose tricks in Safari and Mail -- lots of ways to uncover content, and select through it.

"Let's say I want to drop an image in this email message, mail springs into Expose and I can drop it right in." Wow, huge applause for that.

10:28AM "We're going to start with Dock and the Finder. Let's talk about Stacks -- in SL, stacks handle content" You can go deeper in level on stacks now, down to other folders.

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10:27AM Demo time!

10:27AM "It's super efficient. We're using a new technology called HTTP streaming, it works with any server. Since we had such a change on the backend, we decided to change the look of the player as well." No on-screen controls, pop overs, not quite that marble look, but blackish.

10:25AM "Here's some things you get in SL. Crash Resistance -- the number one browser crash cause is plugins -- so now, the plugin crashes, but your windows are intact. Just reload the page."



10:24AM "Safari 4 offers unparalleled speed." There's a chart. Another cold dis to Windows -- IE8 is way way at the bottom. Oooh, he's boasting that it's passed the Acid3 test 100/100... IE8? 21/100.



10:23AM "Next Safari. It's been in beta for a few months... today we're shipping Safari 4 for Leopard, Tiger, and Windows." Chuckles, cheers.



10:23AM Wow -- they're adding handwriting recognition for the trackpad.



10:23AM "Preview, we've changed the way text selection works -- we use AI to find the right text in the right place." Big applause for this, seems minor, but hugely helpful.



10:22AM "We've made installs 45% faster. And after you install, you recover disk space... it's over half the footprint of the previous version." Wow -- 6GB of savings. That's not nothing.

10:21AM "Next up, the Dock -- we've had a feature that we use to deal with clutter, called Expose, and now we've built it into the dock." You click and hold on an app and it automatically zooms out your active windows.



10:20AM "The Finder. We love the way it is -- for SL we didn't change it. What we did is rewrite it, and from that there's lots of little benefits."





10:20AM Adding Exchange support to Snow Leopard. We've got chills. Chills we tell you!

10:19AM "We come from such a different place. We love Leopard, we're so proud of it -- so we decided to build upon Leopard -- we want to build a better Leopard, hence Snow Leopard."



10:19AM "Even more complexity is present in Windows 7. The same old tech as Vista. Just another version of Vista."

10:18AM "What a big hole Microsoft has dug -- they're trying to get out of it with Windows 7." Now he's listing things like the registry and defrag. Really toasting Windows users here.



10:18AM Ouch. "What a sharp contrast with Vista our OS is." Laughter.



10:17AM "Great hardware deserves great software, so I'd like to invite up Bertrand Serlet"



10:16AM Now Phil is reminding us that these are the most environmentally sound laptops they've made. "World's greenest lineup of notebooks..." So they claim.



10:16AM "We're also going to update the MacBook Air with more aggressive configs and pricing. It starts at $1499... the SSD config is $1799." Wow, that's a deep cut. $700 than previous.



10:15AM Wow -- nice showing here. Price cuts are welcome for sure.

10:14AM "It starts at $1199."

10:13AM Whoa -- they're adding the 13-inch to their MacBook Pro line.

10:13AM Boo ya! FireWire 800 port!

10:13AM "Now you're looking at this thinking, why isn't this just the MacBook Pro? What can we add? Well it can also get up to 8GB of RAM, 500GB of storage, and the backlit keyboard is now standard as well."



10:12AM SD slot is there too.



10:12AM "We make another unibody as well -- the MacBook -- we're updating that too. Same built-in battery, up to 7 hours of life."



10:11AM Shipping today!

10:11AM 17-inch price cut as well -- $2499.

10:11AM Three standard configs, $1699 (2.53GHZ, 4GB RAM), $1999 (2.66GHz, 4GB RAM 320GB HD), $2299 (2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HD)





10:10AM "It starts at an even lower price... just $1699."

10:09AM "But there's a lot more... it's the fastest notebook we've ever made. Up to a 3.06GHz Core 2 Duo CPU, and up to 8GB of RAM." Big cheers. "You can get up to 500GB in hard drives, or up to 256GB SSD."



10:09AM That is pretty nice if you're doing a lot of photo work... but we would like that ExpressCard slot!

10:08AM "Unlike our competitors, who will go through 3 batteries and not dispose of them properly."

"When you open it up, it's got a gorgeous display... still insanely thin... if you zoom in you see something different." A new SD slot instead of the ExpressCard slot!







10:07AM Apple is going to use the same battery from the 17-inch version -- looks to be non-removable, just like that model. Lithium-polymer. Up to 7 hours of battery life. "A typical user will get about 5 years of life from this battery."



10:06AM Now Phil is reminding us of just how super duper awesome the unibody build technique is. "Customers couldn't be happier with them." "We don't want to stop though, we want to continue to extend that lead... I'm happy to show you a brand new version of the 15-inch macbook pro"



10:05AM He's intro'ing who will be out, Scott Forstall will be making an appearance. "Now I get to begin with a section on the Mac. They're the best they've ever been at Apple. New customers are choosing new notebooks, and we're in love with this new design."





10:04AM "Here's a chart of OS X users over 10 years." It goes from 5m to 25m. "But something has happening..." he changes the chart to move up to 75m. "We've tripled the amount of users since iPhone." Big applause. "No wonder is trying to follow in our footsteps, so we'd like to tell you what we're doing to continue this market growth."



10:03AM "Thank you, thank you very much. Welcome to WWDC. We have an amazing week planned for all of you, and I mean all of you. Can't you feel the love in this room? This is the best level of excitement for our dev conference yet. I'd like to show you one reason for that."



10:02AM "Hello I'm a Mac, and PC is trying to say have a great conference." And Phil Schiller is out! Huge applause.



10:02AM A welcome from John Hodgman... PC. "Welcome to the WWDC... I want to be the first to wish you a week with some innovation... but not too much." "You've already sold 1 billion apps... don't you think that's enough?"



10:01AM The lights are dimming... and people are cheering. This thing is about to get really real. And here we go!

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33. "Oh shit. I may be getting a new laptop and"
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passing on the iPhone upgrade.

  

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35. "I know right?"
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esp since the screens are outdated in the 1st gen unibody macbooks anyway

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19. "bootleg stream"
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wwdc-2009-live-stream

  

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20. "RE: bootleg stream"
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nice

  

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24. "the applestore off being updated right now"
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25. "This happens at every conference. That new new is getting added."
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26. "Ugh. Get to the iPhone already."
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27. "^^^^^^^"
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28. "Holy shit $29"
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31. "Right! That's dope. $49 for family pack. Whoa."
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29. "IPHONE TIME"
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30. "Pat on the back shit:"
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50,000 apps in the app store
1 billion downloads in 9 months
40m iPhones and iPod touches sold.

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36. "iPhone Firmware 3.0 shit:"
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We already knew this shit but...

Copy/paste
Shake to Undo
New dev APIs
Landscape keyboard in all major apps
MMS supports - ATT will be "ready for MMS" at END OF SUMMER - lol.
Spotlight - search for anything on the iPhone
iTunes - rent movies from the iPhone.
Parental controls...
TETHERING. But not for AT&T
Faster Safari, and audio/video streaming in Safari
Autofill in Safari

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32. "wrap that shit up, b!"
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this video is entirely too long

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34. "MMS later this summer!?!? WTF ATT?"
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37. "lol @ the groan"
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39. "It was warranted tho. ATT is effin up!"
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42. "Groan - part 2. ATT isn't tethering"
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apple really needs to rethink this relationship

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50. "Jailbroken phones have it. They charge for tethering"
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with other smartphones they sell, att's just finding a way to probably do the same

  

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40. "TETHERING."
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44. "omg - no tethering for AT&T."
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FUCK AT&T

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45. "Will AT&T let that fly tho?"
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49. "nope"
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If they would, Apple would have definitely mentioned it.

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48. "but not on AT&T lolz"
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58. "lol I dont get it, what does that mean. "
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43. "fuckin at&t"
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46. "do other AT&T phones support MMS?"
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47. "yep."
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61. "then how is it their fault?"
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52. "Find my iPhone = awesome:"
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"Hopefully you haven't had a 30 Rock experience, but this is why we created Find My iPhone. If you lose or misplace the phone, you can login to MobileMe on any browser and it will show you where the phone is." Wow -- big applause.

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54. "Im mad it's mobileme only"
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besides that=win

  

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60. "someone should just write an app for that..."
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55. "are there really that many jackasses losing their phones out there...."
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that warrant this bullshit?

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56. "Dope. Conspiracy theorist will have a field day. "
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57. "remote killswitch is cool also."
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Nobody will ever know about my amputee midget trannie porn collection!

  

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"Pre had it first, though."


          


(But from what I hear it's buggy at the moment.)

  

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167. "wrong."
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iPhone had remote wipe since OS 2.0 homie.

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Deluge
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63. "it is but the erase function is kind of pointless"
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cause that just leaves your thief with a new empty phone no?

  

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69. "Better than them having your personal info"
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If it autofills passwords, they could steal your identity like a mofo.

Even if not, you could have all sorts of numbers or whatever on there that you don't want people to have.

There are definitely phone numbers of people on my phone I would get in trouble if anybody got.

  

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72. "yeah but you still wont have your phone"
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if it shows me the location of my phone im heading there with a baseball bat

  

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78. "lol"
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Nopayne
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91. "either way the info is probably worth more than the phone. n/m"
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82. "yeah..."
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Sounds like it'd be better to populate it w/ maximum randumb info or some kind of timebomb. Everytime you make a call, it requests a papa johns pizza to your current location.

  

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53. "Oh wow @ "Find My Phone""
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That's pretty slick

  

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59. "Did you find an update stream>"
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if so imma stop updating my posts.

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62. "I'm just refreshing Engadget on my phone"
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battery life be damned.

  

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64. "lol I'll stop copying and pasting then"
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65. "thank you tho"
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I appreciated it

  

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67. "no prob lol"
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66. "*sends text to stolen iphone* "I KNOW YOU GOT MY PHONE MOTHERFUCKER!""
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"AND I'M COMING TO GET IT AND YOU"

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68. "Liam Nielson "MY IPHONE HAS BEEN TAKEN""
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Iphone Thief: "goood luck"

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70. "LMAO"
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79. "Remember in the Aliens movie the Motion Tracker and Motion Detector?"
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I'm gonna be like Ripley walking around manhattan looking for my phone and shit. Randomly shooting a flamethrower around corners.

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87. "hell yeah.....LMFAO"
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Anybody holding an iphone is not safe.

"flower wallpaper! this isn't my phone"
"oops!" said to crispy dude laying on the ground"

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73. "Iceberg: DO NOT WANT."
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74. "i bet they're going to have us wait another month for 3.0"
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76. "I think you're prolly right."
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new iphones/os 3.0 in mid july.

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92. "June 17 - not bad at all."
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75. "Wow these app demos are boring"
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84. "where are you checking the updates?"
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86. "engadget and macrumorslive"
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89. "you can see and hear the keynote via that bootleg post ^^^ there"
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here's the link
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wwdc-2009-live-stream


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77. "TomTom: DO WANT."
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80. "looks awesome. and the cradle charges it too, nice nice"
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81. "hell yes, with available car app that charges...ding!"
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"Dikembe Mutombo blockin' all attempts"

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202. "plays music through the speakers too."
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I don't care how much it costs. I want it. Will have it.
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83. "I'm punching a baby for every additional app demo..."
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that doesn't end in "porn"

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85. "RE: I'm punching a baby for every additional app demo..."
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>that doesn't end in "porn"


lol!

  

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88. "The great boring conga line of Iphone apps"
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I feel like we are on hour 7

  

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90. "lol@Sawyer playing guitar"
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93. "3.0 - 6/17"
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95. "a.k.a. no iPhone 3rd gen until July."
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118. "were we to expect it any earlier than the customary July drop date?"
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123. "*reads next update* *opens mouth, inserts foot*"
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94. "June 17th, not awful."
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97. "still sucks"
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HighVoltage
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96. "this better lead to announcement of new model..."
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99. "and..."
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"Dikembe Mutombo blockin' all attempts"

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98. "Well this was a waste of my time."
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Shoulda sent the second string hate squad in here.

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100. "3GS!"
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101. "faster proc, 3MP autofocus cam..."
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aight... aight...

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103. "Tap to focus is a cool idea."
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104. "and video!"
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"Dikembe Mutombo blockin' all attempts"

http://www.last.fm/user/temps2020/

  

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102. "wooow at tap to focus."
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other phones will have a tough time doing that one.

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105. "Video! 30fps, 640x480, autofocus."
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best in class.

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107. "man do i hate at&t"
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"Dikembe Mutombo blockin' all attempts"

http://www.last.fm/user/temps2020/

  

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106. "Damn @ voice control."
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Apple putting they foot in it.

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HighVoltage
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110. "as if other phones havent had this feature for 4 years..."
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apple acting like they invented the wheel...

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113. "all about the implementation."
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I've yet to see someone actually USE voice control in person.

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114. "they didnt have it this way"
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111. "nopayne is going to come tell you the opposite"
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Nopayne
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115. "but would I be wrong?"
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116. "You mean they're catching up. I mean voice control? Video? MMS?"
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lol. Welcome to 3 years ago Apple.

The only thing impressive to me about the iPhone is the app store and the speed with which it's attracted tens of thousands of developers.


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122. "Other phones doing 30fps high-quality VGA video?"
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certainly none of the major competitors.

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132. "I suppose if you don't count Windows Mobile phones as competitors"
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then yes.

You DO get 30fps video recording on WinMo phones these days.

Apples marketing is something else tho.

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HighVoltage
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145. "lol, LG's Viewty did 60 FPS and included slow-mo option"
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that completely sonned Apple.

oh, and that phone was released over a year ago and is already in its 2nd model.

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150. "I mean, Triptych is a tech savvy dude and even HE fell for the RDF"
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What hope does the average consumer have against that.

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199. "You'd consider the viewty a major competitor?"
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200. "No, but the N95 shipped over 2 years ago with those features"
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And hell yes Nokia is a major competitor. Not to mention WinMo phones from HTC that are also 2 years old.

It's not really your fault tho, like I said, the RDF is real.

  

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brown sugar
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108. "HAHAHA @ no front facing camera.... what a joke"
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wasn't that one of the highly touted and rumored features... video conferencing? this is one big fail.

voice control looks like it has some potential, but the rest is shit.

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125. "no front facing camera is a fail? the fuck crack you smokin, son?"
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lmao

"that shit don't got LED lights. shit is weak!"

lmao

  

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154. "im smokin that chronic, that palm pre ish"
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and im all sorts of high.

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139. "we ain't seeing video conferencing for a while"
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the US don't have enough bandwith for that shit.

  

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109. "All this shit is showing the old case design..."
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I was hoping for the matte black...

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126. "very small difference"
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the iphone logo is silver foil

  

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112. "compass + self-orienting map= pile of awesome"
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is anyone else doing this yet?

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120. "Android."
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>is anyone else doing this yet?

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129. "Shame the OS only comes on plastic matte bricks so far"
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Oddly shaped matte bricks at that.

  

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135. "^ mad"
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142. "^mad your phone is a bucket"
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146. "he asked about a feature and I provided an answer."
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it's not worth you getting butthurt over.

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"^mad your phone is a bucket"


  

          

  

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117. "$299 for 32gb, $200 for 16gb"
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"Dikembe Mutombo blockin' all attempts"

http://www.last.fm/user/temps2020/

  

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121. "whoa, available in a week and half"
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"Dikembe Mutombo blockin' all attempts"

http://www.last.fm/user/temps2020/

  

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124. "yup, 6/19. wowsers"
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130. "wonder how long lines will be this time. either way, i'll be patient"
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and wait until july


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131. "at least 3.0 will hold me over"
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no way im camping out in line for hours

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136. "true, 3.0 has the goods to hold me over"
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"Dikembe Mutombo blockin' all attempts"

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162. "That about sums it up for me as well. "
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the speed in 3gs, eh! The 3g is decent as it is. Compass/Voice control/camera is nice but not $200 worth of nice.




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HighVoltage
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178. "the main draw for me is 32 gigs"
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cause i have an 8 GB iphone and i need more.

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181. "I can feel that. I've tried to overcome the storage space limits "
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using simplify media. Unfortunately, it's just for music and works best when connected
via wifi.


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HighVoltage
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184. "yeah, simplify is a great app "
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but its a bit clunky at times and the connection will crap out if you're on the go from time to time.


but my main complaint with it is it wont continue to play music once u go back to the homescreen. when im on the train home from work, i like to listen to music, and browse the web, twitter, etc. and i cant do that within simplify.

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119. "$199 16GB / $299 32GB"
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.

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128. "8GB 3G $99 starting today"
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That's pretty good. I wonder how many they will sell with that.

  

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127. "Alright - imma need a hell of a One More Thing."
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.

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133. "3Gs - same design is a disappointment. at least bring matte back"
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or bring colors.

still, imma have to upgrade soon.

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134. "vocie control = more schzos talking in public"
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and better camera = a flood of barcode apps.

  

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Nopayne
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137. "yeah I expect ShopSavvy to get ported pronto"
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and that silly Amazon app to die in a fire.

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138. "the 3G S ad"
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http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/ads/

  

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140. "C'hea"
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141. "I think I'm gonna get a new Macbook"
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and hold off on the iPhone unless it's just a straight up $300 for 3G owners.

The extra space/speed would be great, but the diff between the new Macbooks and mine is a lot bigger.

  

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143. "So that's it, huh?"
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144. "question is, will At&t let 3G owners upgrade to 3GS at $199/$299"
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or will they charge more if you are not eligible in your contract for an upgrade?

i had this problem last year. i was not an original iphone owner...had a sony ericsson, i was not upgrade elibible but all ads and notifications from at&t said i could upgrade...waited in line 6 hours, and i was not eligible for upgrade so i had to pay $500.


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147. "yup. im not eligable until December"
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so its gonna be well over 300 to upgrade now... in fact, it will be for everyone who bought a iphone 3G at its launch.

nice one apple...

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151. "is that what was said at the conference? or is this your guess?"
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"Dikembe Mutombo blockin' all attempts"

http://www.last.fm/user/temps2020/

  

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180. "RE: is that what was said at the conference? or is this your guess?"
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It says it right there on the apple website. You know you always have to pay retail when you're in contract.
Let's hope people make a big fuss like they did when they dropped the price on the first iPhone.

  

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148. "lol @ people around the web mad as fuck at this weak ass phone"
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The comments on engadget have me dying right now.

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149. "iPhone 3GS - Video Tour on Apple.com"
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http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/

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152. "ONE MORE THING!! OMG!!"
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"...existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)."

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2OTU

  

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153. "and there it is"
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and EVERYONE who bought an iphone 3G will not be eligable for an upgrade yet.

class acts all around at AT&T and Apple.

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155. "unbelievable, fuck at&t and apple, how could they do shit like this?"
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fucking disgusting.

they let ppl upgrade from the original iphone to 3G, why do this now?

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157. "Do you know how subsidies work? lol"
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Many wireless providers offer what are known as “subsidies” when consumers purchase new phones.

What this means is that, because you are getting the phone along with a contract to pay a certain amount of money each month, the carrier gives you a discount on the device so that your upfront costs are less and they attract more business.

They keep you under contract for two years so that they make back that initial discount and then a lot more through your monthly bill.

The reason owners of the first iPhone could (and I assume still can) upgrade at the discount price is because their original purchase was not subsidized. AT&T paid nothing towards the cost of their device and therefore had nothing to lose by letting them get that initial discount offered on the latest model.

This isn’t at all unique to AT&T and Apple; if you buy a subsidized Blackberry today from an American carrier, you most likely will NOT be able to upgrade at a subsidized price next year.

  

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159. "You cant seriously be justifying this move..."
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165. "um, its not much different for any other phone out there"
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on any other carrier....you signed a 2 year deal and you want a new phone before your deal is up, you have to sign another 2 year deal to get the discount and even then, they won't give you the 'brand new customer' discount.

  

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174. "except that apple is releasing this now"
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knowing full well they are screwing over everyone who bought an iphone 3g.

i get it, i know this is nothing new that they are introducing, but i think its kinda shady to not do the same deal they offered to existing 1st gen iphone owners to upgrade to 3G.

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183. "1st gen iphones weren't subsidized"
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>knowing full well they are screwing over everyone who bought
>an iphone 3g.
>
>i get it, i know this is nothing new that they are
>introducing, but i think its kinda shady to not do the same
>deal they offered to existing 1st gen iphone owners to upgrade
>to 3G.

thats why they can't extend the deal the same way.

  

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185. "im almost certain there was a special deal for those upgrading"
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from 1st gen iphones to the 3G model where they didnt have to pay the ridiculous base costs and only re-up for another 2 yr contract.

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192. "It wasn't a "special deal""
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The 1st gen phones weren't subsidized, so 1st gen owners could go to 3G and can still upgrade to the 3Gs at the new contract price.

The NEXT time they want to upgrade, they'll have to wait until they're eligible or buy it at the unsubsidized price.

It's not hard to understand.
It's not a "dick move".
It's just the way phone companies work.

>from 1st gen iphones to the 3G model where they didnt have to
>pay the ridiculous base costs and only re-up for another 2 yr
>contract.

  

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161. "really? that's why you sing another 2 yr deal. why did apple/at&t do thi..."
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when the 3G was released? what's different now? it's excessive.

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193. "Read it again, man. They did."
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>why did apple/at&t do this when the 3G was released? what's different now? it's
>excessive.

When people got the first iPhone, it wasn't subsidized. The phone was $600 for 8GB and $500 for 4GB, similar to the prices for the unsubsidized phones now.

Customers that hadn't purchased a subsidized phone were eligible to get one, and still are...which is why the fine print says "price for 3G iPhone owners" and not just "iPhone owners".

  

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173. "Paying the ETF, swiching to the Pre is still cheaper than an upgrade"
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edit: oops prorated $175 ETF is for those that sign up after 5/25/2008.
How much is is for those who signed up before that date?

I understand what you're saying. I just don't see a knock-out feature
that justifies that kind of premium.

Palm/Sprint should jump all over this. Pre already syncs w/ iTunes.

  

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182. "Well then what's the problem?"
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Not to be a dick, but if you don't see a feature worth the premium... Then don't pay the premium. It was a pretty marginal upgrade. I use the GPS feature a lot, so a compass to orient the map would be nice, but that's about the only "feature" I wish I had, aside from the increased battery life and capacity. I'm a lil underwhelmed, so it ain't a big deal that the subsidy stays in place (which is just business, and kind of an Early Adapter tax). The only shady bit is ATT resisting Tethering, and Apple charging for the Find My Phone feature.

>I understand what you're saying. I just don't see a knock-out
>feature that justifies that kind of premium.

  

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201. "I think it used to be $150 flat"
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>edit: oops prorated $175 ETF is for those that sign up after
>5/25/2008.
>How much is is for those who signed up before that date?
>
>I understand what you're saying. I just don't see a knock-out
>feature
>that justifies that kind of premium.


There isn't one, which is why I'll just keep my phone until they do a more serious upgrade or my contract runs out.

They aren't just trying to sell iPhones to people that already have iPhones tho. The point is to keep improving the device so that OTHER people see it as more appealing.

  

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156. "Well then, Macbook Pro it is. "
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164. "pretty much."
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with the SD slot I can finally move away from CF forever.
time to retire the XTi.

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158. "What if you buy the phone from an apple store?"
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I had an OG iPhone and then bought a 3G last christmas and didn't have to pay 500 or 600 for it. Could it be that if you buy from ATT & T you get fucked?
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160. "no"
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and that link is from the Apple website, not AT&T's site.

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163. "Safari 4 is fast as hell. Google Chrome fast. "
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166. "The welcome is dope."
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it's has teh lightning in it.

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169. "I'm just glad they moved the tabs back beneath the menu bar."
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That shit was killing me.

  

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170. "Yep."
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and fixed the loading icon/display/thing

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171. "it's clean."
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my old webkit-engine browser has the new goodness too.

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179. "Hail yeah! I hated the tabs up top. "
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197. "Haven't tried Chrome, but this is noticeably faster"
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Nice

  

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172. "Watch it."
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http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/appleevents/

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175. "Nelson, Barry Obama's cousin demos the '3G S' for you."
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http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/#large

or..it's OJ Simpson's cousin's friend's roommate. LOL @ Gizmodo.

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176. "F&*k AT&T"
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They are on some b.s. I'm a 1st gen iphone owner so at least I get the $199/$299 pricing. However, how are they trying to charge me $18 activation and $18 upgrade fees? $36 in some b.s. fees. I am already on your network so I don't see the activation fee, especially when I will take my SIM card out of my old iPhone and put in the new one. Going from edge to 3g I can maybe see the justification for an upgrade fee, but that is pushing it.

  

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177. "$149 16GB iPhone 3Gs. "
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186. "umm I thought the keynote said $199?"
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187. "3G S no. 3G yes. "
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188. "ah okay. plural 3G is what you meant."
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189. "1st addition to 3G to 3GS???"
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I got my 1st addition iphone stolen about a month ago...

Then I just bought a new 3G from the apple store...

now what do I do about this new 3GS???

Could I exchange my relatively new 3G phone for this new version?

What are my options? This is wackness!

  

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Nopayne
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190. "you could prolly trade it in for an editional charge"
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Nukkapedia
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191. "lol. evil."
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jetblack
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196. "16GB 3G = $149. "
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digitaljohnjohn
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194. "Wow....a phone with video how groundbreaking."
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ssd card slot clearly before its time in a high end laptop.


Snow leopard... unreleased,but here is a
video demo to hold you over for a few more months.


what's next something more avant-garde like a netbook/tablet....
by 2026.


YAWN........










  

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jetblack
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195. "Video editing. "
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Get it right and it looks cool.

RDF.

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centurySamIam
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198. "whatever dude, that 13-inch macbook pro is sick"
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lmao @ talking about the sd card slot like it's a dealbreaker

  

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