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budz4zo
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"FYI: Netflix just dropped HD-DVD"


  

          

http://netflix.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=265

yet another L for the red camp

  

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now games on the ps3 are better by a factor of 3.2%
Feb 11th 2008
1
^^^ Bought a $180 HD-DVD *ATTACHMENT*
Feb 11th 2008
9
      ^^^ BOUGHT A PS3 AND ROCK BAND FOR IT
Feb 11th 2008
10
           meh. The drums work and that's all I give a shit about.
Feb 11th 2008
26
                it's fun too...fook what you techno-snobs think. /nm/
Feb 11th 2008
27
                jet, shut the fuck up with the slashes, we're all fans of RB
Feb 11th 2008
29
                     :)
Feb 12th 2008
54
                cool, lets compare our scores in game and play together
Feb 11th 2008
28
damn. I guess I'll have to buy American Gangster now
Feb 11th 2008
2
Would have been nice if they actually told their customers
Feb 11th 2008
3
I'm glad I didnt pay much for my player
Feb 11th 2008
4
      ^^L^^
Feb 11th 2008
7
      not really. $149 isn't much
Feb 11th 2008
18
      Sony must have paid the studios real good because...
Feb 11th 2008
8
          
Feb 11th 2008
15
           lol
Feb 11th 2008
16
           kinda like how M$ paid EA and Rockstar
Feb 11th 2008
17
                What does HD-DVD (by Tobshiba) have to do with Microsoft?
Feb 11th 2008
30
bwhahahaha rjcc is a dumb ass muhfucker for supporting that shit
Feb 11th 2008
5
I kinda feel bad for Toshiba.
Feb 11th 2008
6
why, they have power of the cell to rely on
Feb 11th 2008
11
They must have heard me hahaha*
Feb 11th 2008
12
:)....losers. lmfaooooooooooooooooooo! /nm/
Feb 11th 2008
13
all i care about at this point is getting the big lebowski on blu ray
Feb 11th 2008
14
this is exactly why I am waiting this war out
Feb 11th 2008
19
the war is over.
Feb 11th 2008
20
      pretty much I have to admit.
Feb 11th 2008
21
      you're right. buy while high priced players with already obsolete specs
Feb 11th 2008
22
           sounds like the launch xbox 360 consoles
Feb 12th 2008
35
how did blu ray get such a big lead anyway
Feb 11th 2008
23
PS3
Feb 11th 2008
24
      it's revenge for BetaMax. /nm/
Feb 11th 2008
25
done deal. Sony wins
Feb 11th 2008
31
wins what?
Feb 11th 2008
32
      a delicious cake
Feb 11th 2008
33
      The cake is a lie!
Feb 11th 2008
34
      the format war
Feb 12th 2008
36
      lol
Feb 12th 2008
38
           and u think Microsoft woulda been better?
Feb 12th 2008
39
           MS wasn't trying to control this format war tho
Feb 12th 2008
40
                i don't buy bootleg movies so all that shit u crying bout mean nothing
Feb 12th 2008
41
                You, my friend, is a dumb dumb nigga
Feb 12th 2008
42
                DID MICROSOFT SUPPORT HD DVD OR NOT?
Feb 12th 2008
43
                     THEY DID AND THE FUCKING LOST! ITS SOOOOOOO
Feb 12th 2008
47
                     MicroLost
Feb 12th 2008
49
                          RE: MicroLost
Feb 12th 2008
50
                     Still a dumb dumb nigga...
Feb 12th 2008
48
                          who owns a 360?
Feb 12th 2008
53
                and no one is talking about your corner bootleg man either
Feb 12th 2008
44
               
Feb 12th 2008
45
                     dont give them FACTS
Feb 12th 2008
46
                     true but..
Feb 12th 2008
55
                     this is incorrect and I need not to point out facts
Feb 13th 2008
66
                         
Feb 14th 2008
74
           HDCP. /nm/
Feb 13th 2008
58
      RE: wins what?
Feb 12th 2008
37
           ^ infidile
Feb 12th 2008
51
LOL @ Netflix REALLY not giving a damn about either...
Feb 12th 2008
52
RE: LOL @ Netflix REALLY not giving a damn about either...
Feb 12th 2008
56
I predict folks will be surprised at how fast I am in the majority.
Feb 13th 2008
60
ok agree to disagree
Feb 13th 2008
63
      OK, i can agree with that...
Feb 13th 2008
64
the same dudes talking this digital download shit be the same people
Feb 14th 2008
68
      I've never rode for either dawg...all this win/lose shit is lame...
Feb 14th 2008
69
      netflix is proposes to start doing rentals over your PS3/360
Feb 14th 2008
70
slow down homie
Feb 13th 2008
57
when the last time you were in a Blockbuster?
Feb 13th 2008
62
      Zacklee
Feb 14th 2008
71
      that just means ppl don't wanna get up to RENT shit, you're
Feb 14th 2008
72
      LOL...dawg...what point are you arguing here?
Feb 14th 2008
73
           ur alone on this one
Feb 14th 2008
76
           basically, $5 for 24 hour rental <<<<$19 to own that shit forever
Feb 14th 2008
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           lol...yall some simpleminded muthafukas man.....
Feb 15th 2008
90
           who is arguing against that fact?? Yall some non-comprehending cats..smh
Feb 15th 2008
89
           AppleTV aint up to par
Feb 14th 2008
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           ^^^^totally doesn't get it.
Feb 15th 2008
91
           ^^^ dont underestimate the sneakiness
Feb 14th 2008
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      <--- netflixes only
Feb 14th 2008
80
they are a business
Feb 13th 2008
59
      ???? you lost me dawg....
Feb 13th 2008
61
           both.
Feb 14th 2008
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Netflix to offer movie streaming on 360/PS3??? (SWIPE)
Feb 13th 2008
65
RE: Netflix to offer movie streaming on 360/PS3??? (SWIPE)
Feb 14th 2008
67
50% off mad HD-DVDs at amazon
Feb 14th 2008
81
damn I might have to pick up a few. I want that Matrix Tril
Feb 14th 2008
82
      I just want the first one
Feb 14th 2008
83
           RE: I just want the first one
Feb 15th 2008
84
           i thought the same when i first watched um
Feb 15th 2008
85
                your philosophy professor is an idiot. it was a shitty movie
Feb 15th 2008
86
                     ^got an L on the final...
Feb 15th 2008
87
           the third matrix was garbage
Feb 15th 2008
88
THE WAR IS OVER....according to aicn.com (double swipe)
Feb 16th 2008
92
^preaching to the choir. /nm/
Feb 16th 2008
93
oh, so those bitches at gizmodo ripped off my headline?
Feb 16th 2008
94

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1. "now games on the ps3 are better by a factor of 3.2%"
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9. "^^^ Bought a $180 HD-DVD *ATTACHMENT*"
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lol.

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10. "^^^ BOUGHT A PS3 AND ROCK BAND FOR IT"
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thats a huge compounding L.

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26. "meh. The drums work and that's all I give a shit about."
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27. "it's fun too...fook what you techno-snobs think. /nm/"
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29. "jet, shut the fuck up with the slashes, we're all fans of RB"
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54. ":)"
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28. "cool, lets compare our scores in game and play together"
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oh wait


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2. "damn. I guess I'll have to buy American Gangster now"
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3. "Would have been nice if they actually told their customers"
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I would have never known...
*sigh*

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4. "I'm glad I didnt pay much for my player"
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It doesn't really matter to me since I'm getting the PS3 and all. Plus I have a lot of really good movies I like on hd dvd already and it's a great upscale joint.

  

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7. "^^L^^"
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18. "not really. $149 isn't much"
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considering a really good upconvert player is about the same price.

  

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8. "Sony must have paid the studios real good because..."
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Like right after the WB announcement at CES, no more HD-DVDs. Didn't Beta at least fade out?

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15. ""
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There are more than twice as many Blu-Ray players out there. It doesnít make sense for a studio to support a format without as much support.

Any studio making HD-DVD movies was just wasting money.

  

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16. "lol"
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so you're saying the BDA doesn't compensate studios for their support?


hint: it takes a sweetener to get studio support for a niche format. no one is selling enough HD movies to affect their bottom line, and they're not missing cash by not releasing.

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17. "kinda like how M$ paid EA and Rockstar"
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FOH

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30. "What does HD-DVD (by Tobshiba) have to do with Microsoft?"
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You're running in here with a gun, while niggas are smoking peace pipes and shit

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5. "bwhahahaha rjcc is a dumb ass muhfucker for supporting that shit"
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silly stan

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6. "I kinda feel bad for Toshiba."
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11. "why, they have power of the cell to rely on"
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12. "They must have heard me hahaha*"
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*ie I just got the email.

Dag, they finna change all of the HD-DVD in your queue to standard (of course they'll let you know *chuckles*) starting by the end of Feb.

Dag

**if this info was stated already *shrugs*

Ah well...

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13. ":)....losers. lmfaooooooooooooooooooo! /nm/"
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14. "all i care about at this point is getting the big lebowski on blu ray"
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19. "this is exactly why I am waiting this war out"
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20. "the war is over."
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no need to wait.

  

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21. "pretty much I have to admit."
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22. "you're right. buy while high priced players with already obsolete specs"
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are on the shelves

and media that will be replaced in the next year with updated versions


thats what you should do.

BUY NOW


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35. "sounds like the launch xbox 360 consoles"
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lol

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23. "how did blu ray get such a big lead anyway"
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ill admit i aint been following, so n00bz me if u will

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24. "PS3"
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when it comes to stand alone players, HD DVD players outsell Blu Ray. So the PS3 is doing what Sony had hoped in terms of driving the Blu Ray format.

  

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25. "it's revenge for BetaMax. /nm/"
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31. "done deal. Sony wins"
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32. "wins what?"
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33. "a delicious cake"
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34. "The cake is a lie!"
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36. "the format war"
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38. "lol"
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wait until Sony's through. Bootleggers beware. There's a reason they've pushed blu ray from the start. And it has nothing to do with storage size.

  

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39. "and u think Microsoft woulda been better?"
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both these muhfuckers trying make money
i just generally like sony products better
so its the lesser of two evils for me

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40. "MS wasn't trying to control this format war tho"
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they're more concerned about trying to win the console war which is a reason HD DVD was never built into xbox. HD DVD is much cheaper for everyone involved as it was more like regular DVDs than blu ray. Ultimately, blu ray won't provide anything that hd dvd didn't other than making it extremely hard for anyone to find a media alternative to buying expensive blu ray to get the most of their hdtvs. Piracy using a 50gb disc will be very hard. Sony knows this. The encryptions will constantly change (hell, some of sony's recent encryptions on regular dvds is off the chains) plus it'll take someone much longer to copy. I don't like the reasoning behind blu ray. But it looks like it's the future till people all get super duper extreme internet download speeds which is a long ways off imo.

  

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41. "i don't buy bootleg movies so all that shit u crying bout mean nothing"
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to me
what kinda dumb nigga buys a HDTV and a high def player then go play bootlegs on it
again, M$ fanboys are reaching for some shit to hate on Sony for
lol @ ms wasn't trying win the format wars
what were they trying do then? lose it?
they backed it and tried to get supporters , bottomline
as far as them not including it in the machine iono if thats relevant now that the price of Ps3 and 360 are so close
if anything m$ prolly make more money off accessory sales
thats prolly why they wanted to sell that shit separate
that and the fact they knew about the RRoD, they prolly didn't wanna have to replace the console AND the HD DVD player
that woulda increased the cost of all those warranties
M$ is smart,in a slimy way, when u think about it

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42. "You, my friend, is a dumb dumb nigga"
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HD-DVD has shit to do with 360. Matter of fact Microsoft has said that they are not opposed to having a Blu Ray add-on if that's what the people want.*

You really think Microsoft is concerned about the format wars? They streaming HD video straight to the console. There's more of a demand for that than

If anything, Sony had more to lose than Microsoft since BR was built into their console.

Let's stick to the topic


*link: http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/01/09/ms-open-to-the-possibilty-of-a-360-blu-ray-peripheral/

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43. "DID MICROSOFT SUPPORT HD DVD OR NOT?"
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answer the fucking question!
were they or were they not on the hd dvd committee at one point?
did they or did they not SELL a fucking hd dvd player under their BRAND?
so save all that semantical plea copping shit for somebody that can't read between the lines

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47. "THEY DID AND THE FUCKING LOST! ITS SOOOOOOO"
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FUCKING SWEET!

w00t!

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49. "MicroLost"
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lmao

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50. "RE: MicroLost"
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LOL

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48. "Still a dumb dumb nigga..."
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Did you get your PS3 yet?

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53. "who owns a 360?"
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thats the DUMB nigga
u prolly be on ur 5th 360 by the time i get my first ps3
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44. "and no one is talking about your corner bootleg man either"
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selling wack shit. I'm talking about the reason 99% of people use their computer DVD burners (a reason right now why DVD prices have come down so much as well). That shit will come to a crashing end soon as blu ray drives come down in price and start being a part of your computer instead. But that's besides the point. Sony is doing their thing. Can't fault them. Their strategy for pushing blu ray through PS3 worked. I just want some good games from them now since I'm investing my dough in a Ps3.

  

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45. ""
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From a pure tech perspective, itís a bit better than HD-DVD.

>they're more concerned about trying to win the console war
>which is a reason HD DVD was never built into xbox.

This is true. They wanted to get the 360 out quicker than the PS3 and get a jump. Original plans for 360 included an HD-DVD drive, but they scraped it because it was taking too long.

HD DVD is
>much cheaper for everyone involved as it was more like regular
>DVDs than blu ray.

Itís currently cheaper because it uses a similar process as DVD to make the discs. Once production really ramps up on Blu-Ray, the cost will be the same.

As it is, the cost per disc for Blu-Ray isnít THAT much more than HD-DVD.

>Ultimately, blu ray won't provide anything
>that hd dvd didn't other than making it extremely hard for
>anyone to find a media alternative to buying expensive blu ray
>to get the most of their hdtvs.

Nope. Since I first heard about both specs, I always thought Blu-Ray was the better one because itís possible to store more data on each disc. The theoretical limit for HD-DVD is a four layer disc with 15GB per layer. Thatís a total of 60GB. Blu-Ray is a bit better since it can have up to eight layers in theory. At 25GB per layer, thatís 200GB, or more than double the amount of data that can be stored on HD-DVD.

The ability to eventually back up your hard drive to two or three discs is incredible, especially considering these discs have a shelf life thatís much longer than your average hard drive. Not to mention the possibilities this offers for gaming (not so much this gen, but next gen will probably get a ton of use out of that size increase)


Piracy using a 50gb disc will
>be very hard. Sony knows this. The encryptions will constantly
>change (hell, some of sony's recent encryptions on regular
>dvds is off the chains) plus it'll take someone much longer to
>copy. I don't like the reasoning behind blu ray. But it looks
>like it's the future till people all get super duper extreme
>internet download speeds which is a long ways off imo.

Both discs use similar security measures (maybe the same; ask RJ). The size of a 50GB Blu-Ray disc makes downloading a bootleg a pain, but it wouldnít be that much better with a 30GB HD-DVD. Unless internet speeds increase in line with the filesizes, all of this stuff is going to be a pain to download.

  

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46. "dont give them FACTS"
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55. "true but.."
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do you honestly see someone producing 200gb of data (movie or whatever) at a relatively cheap price any time soon? I wonder what the average space these blu ray movies currently releasing are using.

  

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66. "this is incorrect and I need not to point out facts"
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Original plans for 360 included an HD-DVD
>drive, but they scraped it because it was taking too long.

you knew this shit was wrong before you typed it

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74. ""
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Most of the rumors leading up to the final reveal of the system were saying it would have an HD-DVD drive.

Generally rumors in gaming donít just come out of thin air.

Heck, I remember thinking "that would be dumb" when some folks starting speculating it would use DVD9:

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/02/08/xbox-360-to-use-a-plain-ol-dvd-drive/

Notice the use of the word "speculating" in the first sentence.

  

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58. "HDCP. /nm/"
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37. "RE: wins what?"
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a gumball machine

  

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51. "^ infidile"
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52. "LOL @ Netflix REALLY not giving a damn about either..."
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Physical Media is NOT the future. Downloadable content is.
Bottomline is that Netflix will ultimately make more money off of streaming HD movies than shipping out physical media. I've downloaded and watched more movies from my 360 than rented physical DVDs over the past year.


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56. "RE: LOL @ Netflix REALLY not giving a damn about either..."
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and youre in the majority of consumers, FOH.
physical media is not going anywhere soon.

not accusing you of it, but some of these HD DVD fanboys are just coppin the DD pleas after their L.
What machine are all these consumers going to download all these movies on, and where are they going to watch them?
Their 360, PS3, a netflix mahcine, some media PC, appleTV, lol?
You think your technology illiterate aunt is going to download movies on her PC?

  

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60. "I predict folks will be surprised at how fast I am in the majority."
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>and youre in the majority of consumers, FOH.
>physical media is not going anywhere soon.

Physical media is shrinking in size monthly, just 2 years ago MiniSD was the standard, now MicroSD is. Consider the fact that 32GB SD cards are soon to arrive at an affordable price point... DVD's (Blu Ray or HD) are HUGE in sheer size...the Disc format is simply not gonna be around long in the grand scheme of things.

>not accusing you of it, but some of these HD DVD fanboys are
>just coppin the DD pleas after their L.

I'm not a fan of either honestly.

>What machine are all these consumers going to download all
>these movies on, and where are they going to watch them?
>Their 360, PS3, a netflix mahcine, some media PC, appleTV,
>lol?

Yes to all of the above. I'll give you that there are folks that like to actually OWN a hard copy of movies...but the sheer success of services like Netflix and On Demand are a testament to the fact that most folks rent a movie once and never watch it again. THOSE are the majority. Therefore owning a physical copy is not really the future. You should add cable company supplied set top boxes to your list also fam...those are in the majority of homes right now. So it really isn't necessary to have a gaming system or PC to take advantage of downloadable HD content.

>You think your technology illiterate aunt is going to download
>movies on her PC?

No, she's gonna navigate to the On-Demand screen of her cable box and click "Rent This Movie"




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63. "ok agree to disagree"
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people like owning movies, and the box that goes with it.

DD is on the rise, but doesnt mean physical discs are dying. blu ray doesnt need to sell as much as dvd to be a success.

audiovideophiles won't be into DD for a while either for obvious reasons.

once hd dvd is officially dead, studios will start to push retailers to narrow the dvd selection in favor of blu ray, and basically force consumers to go blu ray.
they are going to want you to buy your movies in blu ray again, just like you did from vhs to dvd.

  

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64. "OK, i can agree with that..."
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I think you are saying that regular DVD will be phased out upon declaration of an official winner in the HD format wars?

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68. "the same dudes talking this digital download shit be the same people"
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talking bout blu ray lost because nobody is going to buy HDTVs
lmao
they think suddenly everybody will be downloading shit but somehow ignore the fact that u basically can't even find standard def tvs in stores now

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69. "I've never rode for either dawg...all this win/lose shit is lame..."
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>talking bout blu ray lost because nobody is going to buy
>HDTVs
>lmao
>they think suddenly everybody will be downloading shit but
>somehow ignore the fact that u basically can't even find
>standard def tvs in stores now

i'm still rocking a standard DVD player and i'm happy with it on my 37" HDTV.


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70. "netflix is proposes to start doing rentals over your PS3/360"
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just announced right after they axed HD DVD this week.

  

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57. "slow down homie"
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physical media ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
you, sir, do not represent the majority of consumers.

  

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62. "when the last time you were in a Blockbuster?"
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And how crowded was it?
Think about it...
With every major cable company now providing some type of On Demand service, more people are opting to go with on demand rentals over driving to the video store to rent a disk.
What makes you think this trend is gonna somehow stop with the onset of Blu Ray or HD DVD war being over?



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71. "Zacklee"
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And the only reason mine is crowded is because 1) staff could never find stuff, 2) someone has fees to pay (figure that one out), 3) people on line be asking 14,492 questions.

I mean shit most of the major networks stream their shows. The only reason why I own physical movies is because of the extras.

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72. "that just means ppl don't wanna get up to RENT shit, you're"
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still ignoring the fact every best buy and walmart has like 2-3 aisles of physical media on sale for ownership
pay per view didn't kill physical media neither will digital download

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73. "LOL...dawg...what point are you arguing here?"
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In the long run, digital downloads/rentals will net the studios more more money than sales of hard media. I'm glad that a clear selection for the standard physical HD media has finally been decided....but it's really not as big a deal as folks are hyping it up to be. As much as it pains me, Apple TV & iTunes rentals are a bigger deal and more significant in the grand scheme. Despite all the DVDs on the shelves in your local stores, more people RENT than purchase. And the rental market is trending towards digital downloads. I'm going to be more excited when Netflix and others start allowing me to digitally download more HD content... THAT's when i'll have a celebration bitches lol..Until then..I say "meh" to all this Blu Ray hype.

  

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76. "ur alone on this one"
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people still (and will continue) to buy physical media. renting- okay i get ur point. but when it comes to buying shit, people want a physical copy of things. and always will.

  

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77. "basically, $5 for 24 hour rental <<<<$19 to own that shit forever"
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90. "lol...yall some simpleminded muthafukas man....."
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trying to turn this into a rent vs. buy debate...
My point is solid..renting nets studios more money than DVD sales. And in the grand scheme of things, digital downloads are a bigger deal than Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD.

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89. "who is arguing against that fact?? Yall some non-comprehending cats..smh"
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78. "AppleTV aint up to par"
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>Apple TV & iTunes rentals are a bigger deal and more significant

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/13/sizing-up-apple-tvs-hd/




  

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91. "^^^^totally doesn't get it."
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The average movie consumer is not sitting....man..fuck this...wasting energy on yall simps...


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79. "^^^ dont underestimate the sneakiness"
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of a stealth hd dvd troll.

  

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80. "<--- netflixes only"
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or downloads or streams if it's recent enough.

  

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59. "they are a business"
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just like Apple and M$.

they are in existance to make $$.

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61. "???? you lost me dawg...."
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I'm not really comprehending your point here.
Do you agree or disagree that ultimately Netflix can make more money distributing downloadable HD content to subscribers than sending out physical media?

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75. "both."
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65. "Netflix to offer movie streaming on 360/PS3??? (SWIPE)"
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Looks like Netflix agrees with FLUIDJ

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/11/netflix-coming-to-xbox-360-and-ps3/

Netflix coming to Xbox 360 and PS3?

According to a blogged up blog post on the interblogs, a Netflix survey that's supposedly been making the rounds suggests that the service may be coming to both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. If you believe what Seanbajuice has to say, the survey asked, "If as part of your Netflix membership you could instantly watch movies and TV episodes on your TV with your PS/3 or XBOX 360, how likely would you/anyone in your household be to do that?" The survey then goes on to state that both the PS3 and the 360 will be able to play streaming media by using a "special Netflix disc." Here's the kicker: there won't be any extra fees besides the $3 charge for the disc. Of course, nothing is mentioned about how the PS3 will handle the Microsoft-based DRM, and while the whole thing sounds too good to be true, there have been rumblings about this recently, so let's just cross our fingers and make a wish, okay?

  

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67. "RE: Netflix to offer movie streaming on 360/PS3??? (SWIPE)"
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they would be dumb not to try and capitalize

  

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81. "50% off mad HD-DVDs at amazon"
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http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/14/amazon-takes-50-off-150-hd-dvds/
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I wonder if Toshiba will put HD-DVD support into their Blu-Ray players when they start making them. That would be really nice of them, and a great gesture to the folks that supported their format.

  

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82. "damn I might have to pick up a few. I want that Matrix Tril"
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83. "I just want the first one"
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They announced it for Blu-Ray (with no date)...hopefully it won't be bundled. The third one kinda blew.

  

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84. "RE: I just want the first one"
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third? that whole matrix shit is played out.
i wouldnt even watch the first if I was given the dvd free.
that movie was a complete gimmick. keanu reeves? dude is a damn retard.

  

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85. "i thought the same when i first watched um"
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but i took a philosophy class where we spent the whole semester disecting the trilogy... there's a lot of meaning behind all that bullshit

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86. "your philosophy professor is an idiot. it was a shitty movie"
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with no point

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87. "^got an L on the final..."
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lol

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88. "the third matrix was garbage"
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>They announced it for Blu-Ray (with no date)...hopefully it
>won't be bundled. The third one kinda blew.

the third was absolutely terrible

  

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92. "THE WAR IS OVER....according to aicn.com (double swipe)"
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35643

HD DVD dead... No More Format War... Go Buy A Blu Ray Player

Hey folks, Harry here... Depending who you are... you're either jubilant or morose today - because it's pretty much over. Sources inside Toshiba have begun leaking to the press - that Toshiba is no longer going to be manufacturing HD DVD players - and is abandoning the format altogether. Apparently, this decision is going to cost Toshiba hundreds of millions of dollars -

In the last few months, Sony has completely and totally flanked and surrounded HD-DVD. It started with the Warner Brothers move, when Warner's announced their decision to become dedicated to the BLU RAY format beginning this June - the world could feel a seismic shift. Then in a series of announcements from BEST BUY to NETFLIX to the most recent WAL-MART support for Blu Ray and abandonment of the HD DVD format... well, the rush to bury HD DVD has become quite aggressive.

How do I feel about this?

I love both formats - but generally I prefer the HD DVD discs. I have around 300 titles in hi def - a mixture of HD DVD and BLU RAY. I have 4 HD DVD players - and 1 BLU RAY player - and now that it has ended - I hope that the focusing upon BLU RAY means that the format becomes better. That the prices can begin dropping on their players - and their discs. MORE SO - I hope that BLU RAY winning the "war" means that a wider and greater supply of titles begin to be released. In the upcoming months - as the various outlets blow-out their remaining HD DVD titles - there will be added shelf-space for BLU RAY to take up. I'm hoping for many more vintage titles. Just yesterday I was at FRY'S to buy Quint his BLU RAY birthday presents - and I wanted to buy him some older titles - and there wasn't much to choose from.

Now that the Format war is over - there's still another war for the companies to wage... the war to get the populace to abandon standard def DVD and en masse convert to BLU RAY. The only way that'll happen is if Blu Ray lowers their prices significantly on their titles. There's a lot left for SONY to do - but now that they've slain their biggest enemy - all that is left is to win the hearts, minds and dollars of the rest of the consumers to make the big conversion. Click

http://gizmodo.com/357311/its-official-toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd


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93. "^preaching to the choir. /nm/"
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94. "oh, so those bitches at gizmodo ripped off my headline?"
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always nice to know when they're reading

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