im putting albulm out on feb. 26 on USB stick.
NEW AMERYKAH pt 1 FOURTH WORLD WAR

25-30 buks a pop

the content will include :
.albulm
.full albulm art work
.bonus trk
.videos 1&2
.video comentary of new amerykah pts 1&2

and on the 26 of each month (march - dec.) ,
a song from NEW AMERYKAH pt 2 RETURN OF THE ANKH (10 songs)
will be uploaded unto the stick.
+ other bonus material along with each song.

how do you think that would fair?
how many peeps would be interested in this?
pros / cons?
what could i add or take away?

badu

...depending on how much it would run me.

USB stick is enticing though.

Can't be any ol' regular kind of stick.

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the monthly release is a good idea.

can the music be taken off of the usb joint tho?

niggas ain't finna wanna carry around a flash drive and shit.

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Hopefully something that sounds better than standard mp3s will be on there (like flac files).


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flac files?

there's no quality lost during the compression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Lossless_Audio_Codec

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did little research....

which starts to eat into you profits fastly. And that's *before* adding videos and artwork and the like - all that may push you to a 1GB stick.

Honestly though - I think it's an overall great idea. I think 256kbps mp3 is fine - most listeners (and I mean like 99.8%) can't hear the difference anyway.

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as shown with Saul's album (GET WINAMP! haha)

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80% of the people who buy it wont know how to play the files.

i think this is best suited as a limited edition release on your website/okayplayer, but I also think its an excellent idea.

just make sure the files are DRM-free so once bought, people can burn it to cds or transfer to their portable media players to listen on the go.

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>im putting albulm out on feb. 26 on USB stick.
>NEW AMERYKAH pt 1 FOURTH WORLD WAR
>
>25-30 buks a pop
>
>the content will include :
>.albulm
>.full albulm art work
>.bonus trk
>.videos 1&2
>.video comentary of new amerykah pts 1&2
>
>and on the 26 of each month (march - dec.) ,
> a song from NEW AMERYKAH pt 2 RETURN OF THE ANKH (10 songs)
>will be uploaded unto the stick.
>+ other bonus material along with each song.
>
>how do you think that would fair?
>how many peeps would be interested in this?
>pros / cons?
>what could i add or take away?
>
>badu


What would the stick look like? Maybe a funky design.
Can the music be burned to CD or is it just for mp3 players or neither?
I've read that these jump drive deals load software to your PC for DRM purposes. You taking that angel with it?
Final question.....why?

edit...more questions.
how can this be purchased?
can the jump drive (USB stick) be used for personal storage?
Is there an advantage for getting this over a CD (see next question)? Something like getting new music earlier than those who chose not to buy this?
Are you releasing this music on CD?

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design is very dope .
first run is a little wood stick with a flip cap
held by a lil rope.. doesnt come off.

art work is brilliantly burnt into stick.. EMEK

the purpose is to start some shit thats inevitable..unavoidable... certain to happen.
moreover, its an oppertunity for me to share.
i'm giving away content free every month .. my songs( im generally selfish)
ill give cd's another 7 years then boom ...

think of it like a lil ipod..a bpod , if you will.
and ill throw in a lil shug avery pee.

gotta keep it moving .

maybe individually number?

shiiiiiiiit.

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i honestly wouldnt buy it

i will be buying the cd and then if bonus tracks hit the net im sure i will be able to gaffle them from somewhere

i def think its a neat idea for the deluxe special edition wide screen type of collectors

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how compatible is this at the moment with everyday life?

you can listen to it on your computer/laptop, but can you plug it into
your car? are there dedicated USB players out?

CD's work with almost any medium (car, computer, portable cd players,
dvd players, etc), can a USB stick compete with that?

plus USB's can get expensive.. one would imagine production costs are much less for CD's

either way, i really hope whatever you ultimately decide on works.
i'm sure your fans will take it and appreciate it any way they can get it

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my reply..
hard core badu fans may want this opp to cop this stuf FIRST..

plus .. you cant upload the info ...
may be waaaay head a time but usb ports WILL be in vehicles eventually.

till then .. use ipod in car.
see... see?

>plus .. you cant upload the info ...


meant, you c ant burn to cd or computr..

see i dont got all excited.

From a USB? Is that possible?

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if that's the case it seems like the usb stick would be better for just the extra content and not the album itself. Peoeple are going to want to be able to put the music on their computers and ipods.


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I see you're thinking out the box. I like and will def purchase it when it comes out. More artists do this. By the way, your video is the hottest video I've seen in forever. Who came up with that idea? You?

you want me to pay 20-30 bucks for music I can't put on my mp3 player?

I think this is a great marketing idea (my group thought of it a while back but it was just too expensive for us) but the ENTIRE POINT of the usb drive is so you can throw the songs on your computer.

Maybe someday usb posts in audio devices will be as ubiquitous as cd players, but until then that usb drive would be practically useless to me and most other people.


edit: I do think it's great that you're soliciting feedback from fans (and, I feel, valuable feedback at that), I wish more artists would.

but usb ports WILL be in vehicles
>eventually.

a brand called "DUAL" makes car radios with USB ports. Found in Best Buy stores.

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It sounds like the USB will load S/ware for DRM. If you plug it straight into a car radio with USB will it be able to play it without the software installed?

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mine doesn't even have a cd player, just the usb input now

>how compatible is this at the moment with everyday life?

Once they are on a USB stick you can do anything you want with the music. So as compatible as an iPod.




>you can listen to it on your computer/laptop, but can you plug
>it into
>your car? are there dedicated USB players out?

You can do anything you can do with an mp3 and we know how popular those are.



>CD's work with almost any medium (car, computer, portable cd
>players,
>dvd players, etc), can a USB stick compete with that?


IMO - it's an interesting marketing experiment.
First of all, CDs suck. They get scratched and lose quality over time. They're a pain in the ass to even open. They are huge compared to mp3s (e.g. you can't carry 1,000 of them) etc.

A USB stick would (perhaps) cater to die hard fans (like OKPs) who really have little use for a CD anyway (and can always burn one if they want)


>plus USB's can get expensive.. one would imagine production
>costs are much less for CD's

this may be true. Well fuck it, it IS true. But she's also charging about double. Again this wouldn't target ALL her fans and supplant the CD, it would be a supplementary market. Like vinyl.

>either way, i really hope whatever you ultimately decide on
>works.
>i'm sure your fans will take it and appreciate it any way they
>can get it

werd.

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..would you package it with any artwork ?? ..or would that be in the form of jpegs

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work with. I think as a limited edition (and/or collectors) item, I think USB sticks are a good idea, I don't think the masses are ready for USB drives as a replacement for CD's (yet).

A couple things to consider:
- You can easily pull the audio/content off the drive so it can be put onto a computer/mp3 player and/or burned onto a CD
- DRM Free
- High quality files
- Drive doesn't force user to install custom software to be used on their computer

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i agree .
we will test the markrt with just a few thousand first...

Wrong type of traffic haha

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except without the downloads thing:

http://www.amazon.com/Exile-Mainstream-Bracelet-Matchbox-Twenty/dp/B000WETHXA

It's neat, but unless it's uncompressed audio, I probably wouldn't get it (or would get the CD first and then this later as a collectors item).

As long as there is a CD version available, it'll be cool.

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there is ankh burned into first batch .. and yes second run is shaped like an ankh..
howd you know?

am i that predictable, god?

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mine didn't even know who they were till reading them words.

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but that shit's stupid though.

Radiohead's shit was 160KBPS and people were upset about that. It needs to be 320KBPS MINIMUM. I think if you put anything lower than 320K, people will just wait for the extras and bonuses to hit the internet and just download.

I would avoid FLAC, Apple Lossless and the like. Stick to something that can be played on EVERY Computer.

but, it has to come out on cd for the masses to adopt it. the general public just isnt ready to buy into this. remember when dvd's came out? "own "The Little Mermaid 2" on Disney DVD and VHS this Tuesday"

it took a couple years before the switch was made to solely releasing movies on dvd.

its a brilliant idea, but its not a good financial move. not that im an expert or anything.

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sorry just woke up and read through.

cool concept but the lack of transferability is irksome.

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but that shit's stupid though.

I'm not sure if that's included in "full album artwork". I can't see buying music and not getting the liner notes. (even if they are mising the lyrics for green eyes lol)

Like some others have mentioned above the question would be what's the sound quality gonna be like. Mp3's at V0 would be cool with with me. If it's any format that uses DRM I woudn't buy it. At that point it would make more sense (to me) to buy the cd.


Last but def not least. How is this system of getting a new song a month (till u have the whole album) going to work? Is the software going to be contained on the usb stick, or will there be a need to isntall additional software? Is it going to be compatible with non windows systems like apple, and linux? (ok linux is asking a lot, but it's what I use so I have to ask) In general I'd be leary of having to trust the software regardless. If I just saw it in the store and realized it needed some software to download the new songs each month I would automaticaly think that it was a trick by the RIAA to install something on my system to track me in some way. I think becasue of that, it would be better for it to come with all the content at once.


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lol

this cat done came in here talkin bout the book of the dead.


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I'm assuming they would be on the artwork just like Saul did for "Niggy Stardust". Lyrics and production credits. Now if you're looking for something like what ?uest used to do, I know Saul put that on his website. He explained the process and such in a post on his boards.

Did any one get the Smashing Pumpkins USB (or was it White Stripes)? That might be able to answer the bitrate question.

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liner notes
art work
whole package
scroll up..

that was the main part of what i was saying


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key/usb gets verified and song is unlocked

usb acts like a dongle basically



possibly have all the songs already on the stick, just unlock em 1 each month
(cons- if someone cracks it/gets an 'unlocked stick' that isnt secured right, they can access all the songs from the start)



or load one song each month to the site, and once the stick is verified by the site, begin the download

(cons- 1st person that d/ls it, the file is gettin sent everywhere. no reason to hit the site)

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for 20 i think id probably get it.

but yeah my car doesnt have a usb drive and dont think ima go buy a new radio for this lol

so if i cant rip the songs to my computer and then burn it to a cd so i can listen to it in my car then dont know if itd be logical.

a few more years and thatd be less an issue because yeah more cars will have usb's cuz its pretty much standard on new cars now. problem is, not everyone buys a new car.

definitely love the exclusive content, dont understand how the new songs would be uploaded onto it.

or does it give you access to a site??

so happy its actually a unique usb and not just a standard usb with ur music, so thumbs up on that.

on a general note i think the only way for usb's to became a viable alternative for cds would be their portability. the size has to be minimal, smaller than normal thumbdrives but a standard size that would allow for standard cases to be made to store them. then yeah it should be easy to transition audio devices to have usb ports.

so like the vision.

funny though, its like going back to cartridges, 8-tracks and nes lol plugging in a device and it stick out halfway, i dont like it on my computer, always afraid ill bump it.

i say thumbs up on this though, just lower the price

you made a special preorder/offer thing where you would bundle the usb and cd together? since the usb thing is obviously aimed at your core fanbase i'm sure that shouldn't be a problem and maybe making that one set price around $35 maybe? and if some people want just the usb stick let them pay the 20-30 for it...

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