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58impala
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"Microsoft Confirms Price Cut of Xbox 360"


  

          

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/technology/07xbox.html?ex=1344139200&en=f6d62ba316d3924e&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

details in short:
basic model - $279
20 gig model - $349
Elite model - $449

  

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of course they would wait until exactly 30 days after I ordred mine
Aug 07th 2007
1
They should have cut the prices some more
Aug 07th 2007
2
nevermind.
Aug 07th 2007
3
if you cop one, check the lot # to get the new design
Aug 07th 2007
6
      good looks.
Aug 07th 2007
8
      what do you need new component cables for?
Aug 07th 2007
9
           my receiver doesn't do HDMI.
Aug 07th 2007
10
                elite has both in the box
Aug 07th 2007
11
      Are they basically saying it was a overheating issue?
Aug 07th 2007
12
      well microsoft isn't saying anything
Aug 07th 2007
13
      word
Aug 07th 2007
15
      Ha! Copped my Elite in mid July. It's 0723 falcon chipset from FGUA
Aug 07th 2007
20
It's a trap
Aug 07th 2007
5
      I don't like it
Aug 07th 2007
18
           yep, same here.
Aug 07th 2007
19
Still don't want it.
Aug 07th 2007
4
basically
Aug 07th 2007
14
I'll get one eventually.
Aug 07th 2007
7
someone school me on the differences between the systems?
Aug 07th 2007
16
If you have an HDTV, you can watch upscaled DVDs over HDMI
Aug 07th 2007
17
the only real reason for the 120GB hard drive
Aug 08th 2007
22
All new 360s to include HDMI this fall?
Aug 08th 2007
21
this fall? try now
Aug 08th 2007
23
      damn, I've got to see about a trade in this weekend
Aug 08th 2007
24
new 45nm chips late '08?
Aug 09th 2007
25
The 65nm chips are coming... now and with HDMI on premiums
Aug 09th 2007
27
      and supposedly 45nm chips '08-'09...
Aug 09th 2007
28
      dammit
Aug 10th 2007
30
      the new premiums may not have the 65nm stuff yet
Aug 10th 2007
32
           Dang, Imma have to check the code on the box I guess
Aug 10th 2007
33
                only Elites produced in July and later...
Aug 10th 2007
37
                     I don't want the Elite. I want the premium with HDMI
Aug 10th 2007
39
Refurbished Core 360s are 189.99 at Gamestop
Aug 09th 2007
26
I can wait
Aug 10th 2007
29
n/m
Aug 10th 2007
anyone know if that table tennis bundle has the HDMI port?
Aug 10th 2007
31
if it does, it will say so on the box
Aug 10th 2007
34
Apparently, the new boxes don't have the new chipset (swipe)
Aug 10th 2007
35
but... they do have hdmi
Aug 10th 2007
36
      That was the only reason I was buying it for.
Aug 10th 2007
38
           new chips = less overheating problems
Aug 10th 2007
40

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1. "of course they would wait until exactly 30 days after I ordred mine"
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2. "They should have cut the prices some more"
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Elite will look at little retarded at 100 more than the Premium imo.

  

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3. "nevermind."
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Tue Aug-07-07 12:55 PM by LeroyBumpkin

  

          

let's go.

  

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6. "if you cop one, check the lot # to get the new design"
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there's a hole in the box where you can see the manufacturing date and everything.

from another board:

http://forums.xbox.com/1/13882627/ShowPost.aspx#13882627
According to this thread, all 360s manufactured in july or later (lot 0728 or higher on the sticker) have the new "falcon" 65nm chipset and big heatsink. It should be possible to buy 65nm elites in the next week or two, but cores and premiums won't be available until november due to stock overages.

All elites with lot number 0723 or higher will have the new heatsink, and they're available right now. Supposedly the heatsink solves the RROD issue.

Also, all elites in the UK will have the new heatsink, but won't be 65nm at the launch surge.


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8. "good looks."
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I need about $620.00 to get everything I want:

elite
new component cables
gears of war
extended warranty

xbox live might have to wait for the time being.

we'll see what happens.

  

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9. "what do you need new component cables for?"
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the elite comes with them, and I thought you were using hdmi anyway?

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10. "my receiver doesn't do HDMI."
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and more imporant than that, neither does my HD set. I'm thinking about a new set and receiver in 2008, so I'll need hdmi then. I listed component cables out of habit. whoops.

  

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11. "elite has both in the box"
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both HDMI and component cables in the box so you have a choice.

  

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12. "Are they basically saying it was a overheating issue?"
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for the most part?

  

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13. "well microsoft isn't saying anything"
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but its pretty clear from the various fixes that went out

that for the most part, the rrod was caused by the gpu heating up, the board warped, and it pulled the connectors loose over time

people were able to fix it with the "towel trick" (reflowed the solder and reconnected it, but it didn't work that well and probably damages other internal components)

and changing the way the heatsink is mounted


the newer 360s from refurb and on shelves have a different heatsink, and the 65nm ones have the new heatsink and should run cooler anyway, but nobody really knows yet.


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15. "word"
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If I ever find time to play video games again, I'll be picking one up.


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20. "Ha! Copped my Elite in mid July. It's 0723 falcon chipset from FGUA"
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Needless to say, I'm pleased as pudding.
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5. "It's a trap"
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They always price stuff so you pay like $100 more and you can get some shit that’s a lot better. Same with iPods how it’s $250 for 30, but for ony $100 more you get more than twice the storage. The elite is the same deal: $100 more for 6 times the storage and HDMI, which will make a difference to people with nice TVs (who are the exact people buying the system in the first place).

Best believe retail is gonna push the more expensive sku as well because they’ll be getting higher margins.

  

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18. "I don't like it"
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Personally, I really have no need for the Elite now that I think of it. I have my current 360 plugged up through VGA on my TV and it looks great. I'll save my HDMI slot for my PS3.

  

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19. "yep, same here."
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when I get a 360, it will be the standard 20gig. There's no need for anything else really.

  

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4. "Still don't want it."
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14. "basically"
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$100 is expensive for a faulty console
much less 300-400

  

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7. "I'll get one eventually."
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16. "someone school me on the differences between the systems?"
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cause right now i dont know why id want to pay $70 more for a wireless controller and cables i can get for $18 anyways (and hell no on the elite system, hdmi and component are basically the same thing, or can it do 1080p?).


what do you need the huge harddrive for anyways? do you need that much space for gamesaves?

id love to cop one for gears, mgs, and gta when they drop, but i have no idea why id want to cop the premium bundle over the core bundle.

school me please

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17. "If you have an HDTV, you can watch upscaled DVDs over HDMI"
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You can't do that with component.

>what do you need the huge harddrive for anyways? do you need
>that much space for gamesaves?

Some big name games will likely use the hard drive in the future. It's already speculated that GTAIV will, and there have been some games that required it or run better with it.

You would need at least a memory card to save games, and those are proprietary (can't use standard flash cards like Nintendo and Sony) and $40. With the hard drive you can store music on your system to play in the background while you're gaming and download game demos, trailers, etc from the internet.

Trust, you want the hard drive. You don't necessarily need the space of the Elite's hard drive just for gaming, but that "20GB" hard drive the premium comes with is actually only around 13GB of space and demos can be as large as 1.5GBs, so if you plan on downloading a lot of them it's best to get an Elite (unless you feel like deleting stuff every time you get something new). If you ever think you might want to watch a movie from the Xbox Marketplace you should def get an elite because those are around 4GBs.

Because buying the bigger hard drive is $180 if you want to add more space later. Personally, I couldn't see spending that much money on a system and not getting the best hard drive, video output, etc. I could. I could see if it was the PS3 where every sku came with a hard drive and hdmi, and you can just swap out the hard drive with a generic and inexpensive one, but since you gotta go to MS for that stuff with 360, you're better of buying the system you won't need to add on to later.

>id love to cop one for gears, mgs, and gta when they drop,
>but i have no idea why id want to cop the premium bundle over
>the core bundle.

By MGS do you mean Metal Gear Solid? If so, that's only on PS3 as of now.

  

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22. "the only real reason for the 120GB hard drive"
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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/moviestv/default.htm

otherwise, the vast majority of people can get by with the 20GB hard drive. Ignore the Core system, since even though it's cheaper, the shitty MS accessory prices don't make it a very good value (and they've actually made it a worse value after this upcoming price drop, lol).

If the Core had a memory card included it'd be a good option for folks with no broadband access, but now people might as well just save up a little bit more and get the premium.

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21. "All new 360s to include HDMI this fall?"
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That appears to be the word. That looks like the case for all the new 65nm joints coming in the next month or so. If that's the case, I'm definitely trading my box in right before this goes down. That's a lot better than springing almost 500 on an Elite.

  

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23. "this fall? try now"
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48351

well, not the Core. haha. Although I think once all the core systems get cleared out, they'd eventually switch them over...they've probably gone through all the premium stock, so that's why they're able to replenish it with the newer ones.

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24. "damn, I've got to see about a trade in this weekend"
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25. "new 45nm chips late '08?"
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lol. they taking that long to extract this technology off megatron? anyway...

so i heard about rumors of ANOTHER price drop in the fall once the 65nm chips are fully distributed. i'd find a link, but i'm at work right now. looks like i might get a ps3 this month and a 360 in the fall >_<

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27. "The 65nm chips are coming... now and with HDMI on premiums"
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I'm trading my box in for one of those.

  

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28. "and supposedly 45nm chips '08-'09..."
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for those with zen-a-like patience.

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30. "dammit"
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i just found this out right after buying an elite. if i'd known i'd have just gotten a premium with HDMI. i can actually still return my box, but i don't know if i want to go through the hassle or not.

  

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32. "the new premiums may not have the 65nm stuff yet"
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supposedly they're the same internals as the elite system (second heatsink/hdmi, but not the smaller die shrink)

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33. "Dang, Imma have to check the code on the box I guess"
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37. "only Elites produced in July and later..."
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have the 65nm chips in them currently.

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39. "I don't want the Elite. I want the premium with HDMI"
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Those are supposed to be availabel soon too.

  

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26. "Refurbished Core 360s are 189.99 at Gamestop"
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And the one year warranty at Gamestop is only $20.

  

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29. "I can wait"
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31. "anyone know if that table tennis bundle has the HDMI port?"
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34. "if it does, it will say so on the box"
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35. "Apparently, the new boxes don't have the new chipset (swipe)"
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http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/spot-the-hdmi-enabled-xbox-360-premium-at-retail/

  

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36. "but... they do have hdmi"
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so in essence by purchasing the elite you're paying $100 more for 100 GB more hd storage.

and, of course the real reason for the higher price, the black case and controller.

  

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38. "That was the only reason I was buying it for."
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All this 45 65 nm whatever the fuck is going on in this post went airborne over the head. I wanted the storage and the color and I knew it supported HDMI.

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40. "new chips = less overheating problems"
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and the new boxes were supposedly going to have much quieter DVD drives

  

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