I'm up for a new phone and trying to decide between the Blackberry 7130e and the Motorola Q, but I've heard bad things about Windows Mobile.

What's the word on the street? thanks.

To me, all the mobile OSes have their drawbacks and good points.

It really comes down to the build of the phone, in my estimation.

--Maurice

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Consider Windows XP with only like a quarter of the troubleshooting tools. It's like if something goes wrong, soft reset. If that doesn't work, hard reset. I have a PPC 6700 so I applied another rom and a couple of hacks. Once you play around with it and get it to where you want it to be it'll be ok.

my sidekick(s) had more problems. shit slowing down way more and lockign up.

thanks for the info, ya'll

You just opened up the flood gates with this post. I had this building inside of me for weeks now.

i have a T-Mobile MDA which runs Windows Mobile. It is the dumbest smart phone ever assembled. I don't know how much is Windows fault and how much is the MDA's, but i'm blaming windows until i'm proven otherwise.

- After every text message sent, my phone rings or vibrates (depending on what mode i'm in) saying "message sent." I send a message, a few seconds later it vibes "message sent." Why would it tell me every time it sent a message? I know I just sent it, i just pressed send! I sent tons of messages a day and deal with it every time. Vibrate if there's a problem!

I even sent an email asking their support team how to turn the feature off. Guess what? You can't. This annoyingness is built into the firmware. Which leads me to another problem:

- If there's an error message in your text message window, you will not receive any messages until you press OK. Say you send a message and put the phone down. It vibrates of course. If an error pops up, you can only see it from the text screen (which closes after you send the message). Sometimes i wont receive texts all day, go into the text message program to send another message, and see the error from an earlier text i tried to send. I press OK on the error and then like 10 texts come in from hours earlier.

- Its made to use a stylus for everything. Every contact or button is so small, even if there's tons of screen space you could use. When calling, the phone numbers on the screen are so tiny you have to use a fingernail to press the buttons. You'd think that since its a phone, it would at least do its main function easily right? Wrong, WRONG!

if you want to set an alarm, it gives you a tiny ass analog clock with an hour hand and a minute hand that you HAVE to use a stylus to turn, or grow your pinky nail as long as possible just in order to turn the hands. Mind you, the surrounding screen is 70% white space where they could put large, easily assesible numbers.

Top it off, the stylus isn't even comfortable. Its too small to hold like a pencil.

- I drive a prius with bluetooth in it, and you can transfer your phone book to it and choose contacts from the screen. Every phone i've ever had i've been able to send the phone book to the car. I've had a Ericson T616, T636, and these non-smart phones have done it with no problem. It is IMPOSSIBLE to send your entire contact list via bluetooth from this phone. I called their support team about this as well - they said its not possible, and recommended me sending each contact one at a time. 100's of contacts, one at a time. You would think a smart phone would be able to do it easily right?

I could seriously go on and on about it. It's like they didn't think things through when making this phone. I'm on Windows Mobile 5, so I don't know if 6 took any of my suggestions. Either way, you've been warned if you get a Windows Mobile phone, and stay far far away from the MDA.

"Used to be the new kid 'till I grew into that new shit/
Emperors that hear the tunes admit that they are nudists..."

Thanks for that info, homie. sounds like you've had it!


I'll stay the heezy away from the MDA phone

>- After every text message sent, my phone rings or vibrates
>(depending on what mode i'm in) saying "message sent." I send
>a message, a few seconds later it vibes "message sent." Why
>would it tell me every time it sent a message? I know I just
>sent it, i just pressed send! I sent tons of messages a day
>and deal with it every time. Vibrate if there's a problem!

I don't need to know every time that the message was sent... just tell me if the message WASN'T sent for some reason.

That's a silly oversight on Microsoft's part.

--Maurice

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--JS

It would have been so easy to give me the option to turn it off. And this phone doesn't vibrate like a normal phone, its a big phone and vibrates like a big phone.

Vibrates for a good 3-5 seconds too!

"Used to be the new kid 'till I grew into that new shit/
Emperors that hear the tunes admit that they are nudists..."

http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/149

Definitely good lookin on the link! It furthers my anger that i gotta jump through registry hoops just to disable it! But at this point i'm willing to do anything.

"Used to be the new kid 'till I grew into that new shit/
Emperors that hear the tunes admit that they are nudists..."

you pretty much summed up all my feelings on the MDA, I'm debating whether or not to cop the Wing that just came out, but seeing as how its basically the MDA upgrade, I'm not sure I want to go in that direction. I might just end up copping the Curve when it comes out on TMobile.

All those issues can be solved by hacking it.. Yeah, it sucks that you gotta tweak it to get to act right, but it's also GREAT that it can be tweaked endlessly.

It's not a phone for everyday users by any means....but once you tweak it to your specifications, you have a really powerful device. For instance...my jobs network was down last week...i needed to get some emails out and check some stuff on the web...Plugged in my 6700, turned on my DUN hack and used it as a wireless modem on the EVDO network...

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if its a smart phone, it should be smart from the gate. I shouldn't have to make it smart, thats not my job.

Is there any hacks thats gonna let me send my whole phone book via bluetooth? I really wanna know, as you can tell i don't know too much about these hacks...

"Used to be the new kid 'till I grew into that new shit/
Emperors that hear the tunes admit that they are nudists..."

>if its a smart phone, it should be smart from the gate. I
>shouldn't have to make it smart, thats not my job.
>
>Is there any hacks thats gonna let me send my whole phone book
>via bluetooth? I really wanna know, as you can tell i don't
>know too much about these hacks...
>
>
>

Not sure about that one. I would imagine so...but not sure of why it would be necessary. Active sync would handle that more efficiently.

I got a prius, and it got a basic interface to accept bluetooth phone book transmissions. So i can't really do anything with activesync.

"Used to be the new kid 'till I grew into that new shit/
Emperors that hear the tunes admit that they are nudists..."

sig below:
-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

>All those issues can be solved by hacking it.. Yeah, it sucks
>that you gotta tweak it to get to act right, but it's also
>GREAT that it can be tweaked endlessly.
>
>It's not a phone for everyday users by any means....but once
>you tweak it to your specifications, you have a really
>powerful device. For instance...my jobs network was down last
>week...i needed to get some emails out and check some stuff on
>the web...Plugged in my 6700, turned on my DUN hack and used
>it as a wireless modem on the EVDO network...
>
>sig below:
>-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the
>laughter from the screams.

It will have Windows Mobile 6

--Maurice

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MS has never really tried to prevent folks from tweaking Windows Mobile..the carriers seem to have more beef with it than MS.

I had a new firmware that was almost identical to WM 6...i cant remember why i switched back to an older one though.

For some reason, Windows Mobile shuts the phone off when the battery gets low, but leaves the os up and running... so the bright ass screen can work but I can't talk? very annoying

so it goes into flight mode

at that point, all you can really do is make sure your stuff is saved


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i dunno...despite the quirks...i would only trade this phone for a new model lol...

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I kept getting a "memory is low" message. Everytime I tried to navigate to a different screen, it would pop up. Anybody who had this message on their WM phone knows what im talking about. It kept telling me to check explorer to search for what was taking up so much file size.

So i did it and it told me I had nothing bigger than 64k. I deleted those files but kept getting the message. I had the best plugins i really didn't want to remove, but I got so mad I deleted all of them. STILL got the message!

Checked my internet explorer cache and that shit was mad MB! Whats windows fascination with the cache! Never once did the instruction manual or anything warn me to even check the cache or mention that it might take over my phone! Give me a notification at least!

"Used to be the new kid 'till I grew into that new shit/
Emperors that hear the tunes admit that they are nudists..."

... get yourself a Symbian phone. (Nokia, Sony Ericcson) I've been using the Nokia E62 for a while, and I absolutely love it. Plus, it works flawlessly as a Blackberry.

The only drawback to Symbian is that it can run a bit sluggish at times.

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I TOLD YALL

All that fancy bullshit is for nerds who like unstable phones.

You wil NEVER have ANY problems with a Blackberry.

So what, you can't watch porn on your phone -- who gives a fuck?

Windows Mobile is for people who like a set of irrelevant, buggy
features. Not for busy people with real jobs.

Get a blackberry

No matter what people say about Windows Mobile, the fact that it's so "hackable" is what I personally looked for in a mobile OS. I will give you that stability is a problem, but I just find it more powerful than the other OSes.

My REAL problem with Windows Mobile is the fact that Microsoft seems to almost forget that they've released it. Too few updates, both program and firmware related.

--Maurice

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Bonding over sutures is what's hot in Oh-Nine.
--JS

for FREE?

this one that comes with WM6 is ass.

But, I'll keep an eye out.

--Maurice

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Bonding over sutures is what's hot in Oh-Nine.
--JS

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sorry fam.

WM5 > Whackberry

its just sloppy to me.

i wouldn't know about every day use though, never had one like that.

but from messing with my friends phones, i just dont like it.