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https://sports.yahoo.com/either-everyones-guilty-or-no-one-is-134758477.html


BY DAN WETZEL

The Michigan sign-stealing controversy has taken a new turn, and now three other Big Ten schools have found themselves in the spotlight alongside the Wolverines.

At Michigan, Connor Stalions allegedly ran a smash-and-grab sign-stealing operation. Ohio State, Rutgers and Purdue, meanwhile, were reportedly operating the equivalent of a criminal conspiracy. It was pure white-collar stuff.

In the end, they both stole, or participated in the stealing of, the same thing — information on opponents' play signals in an effort to secure an advantage.

It's just that one was a ski mask bank robbery. The other was an inside job, cleanly wiring the money to the Caribbean.


Forget all the noise. Forget the grandstanding coaches screaming for Jim Harbaugh’s head. Forget if Michigan deserves all the scorn.

Forget even what or when the punishments should be.

Whatever it is, just make it even, because the actions of Connor Stalions and the actions that Ohio State, Rutgers and Purdue allegedly engaged in are the exact same thing.

Yes, the exact same thing.

Stalions sent friends out to film the sideline signals of future Wolverine opponents. He then got the video and allegedly worked to decipher the play calls. It appears one time he even stood on a Central Michigan sideline comically wearing what looks like spy glasses to scout Michigan State.

These were blatant, brazen acts. While stealing signs isn’t against NCAA rules, advanced scouting is. Stalions was clearly engaging in that.

Last Friday, however, Michigan presented the Big Ten with evidence that someone on the Rutgers football staff provided Michigan’s defensive signals to Purdue in advance of the Boilermaker-Wolverine 2022 Big Ten title game. Meanwhile, someone at Ohio State handed over U of M’s offensive signals.

So in the Big Ten Championship Game, both teams had the other’s signals, both of which were gathered via advanced scouting. (Michigan won, 43-22.)

In Michigan’s case, the “advanced scouts” were Stalions’ band of iPhone-toting buddies.

In Purdue’s case, the “advanced scouts” were the professional coaching staffs of two other Big Ten teams that had just played the Wolverines, and thus could battle-test the signs they stole as accurate.

Which would you rather have? Raw cell phone footage that still needs to be broken down, or highly experienced coaches just handing over their work?

Everyone would choose the Purdue option.

Even if Ohio State and Rutgers acquired Michigan signs via NCAA-legal game film or during game action, it doesn’t matter. Purdue didn’t do that work. The Boilermakers received stolen signs from advanced scouting. They cheated as much as Michigan.

Additionally, the Purdue person receiving the advanced scouting work was almost assuredly, at the very least, an assistant coach. The NCAA investigation, sources say, hasn’t found any proof anyone in Ann Arbor knew how Stalions got so good at deciphering signs. He apparently hid his act.

So why is the NCAA aggressively investigating Michigan but not Purdue and the others? Why is the Big Ten threatening to suspend Harbaugh indefinitely but doesn’t seem to care about anyone else?

Why is the NCAA not immediately sending investigators to Ohio State and Rutgers to find out who else received these reports?

Why is the Big Ten not instantly warning future opponents of Purdue, Ohio State and Rutgers that the competitive integrity of their games are in doubt considering past behavior?

Why isn't the Big Ten contemplating how the league’s nebulous “sportsmanship” policy applies to three teams conspiring against one?

Good questions.

All we know is some still-unidentified entity hired a still-unidentified private investigator to uncover Stalions' antics in the hopes that the NCAA and the Big Ten would do exactly what they did — fall for the okey doke and naively overreact.

Charlie Baker has been NCAA president since March. Tony Petitti has been Big Ten Commissioner since May. Neither has much experience with this stuff — Baker was a politician, Petitti mostly a television executive.

They didn’t know what they didn’t know. Together they opened Pandora’s Box.

Mostly they listened to football coaches who view one kind of advanced scouting as gamesmanship, and another as a kind of crime. The coaches’ reasoning? Sending around stolen signs and game plans is common practice, so they don’t care. What Connor Stalions did is apparently not so common, so they did care.

But who in their right mind would listen to such reasoning? Who would be so dumb to agree with it? Who would let the thieves define theft?

Football coaches are rarely deep thinkers. They aren’t spending time contemplating law, precedent, ethics or unintended consequences. They just want Jim Harbaugh gone.

Real leadership would have known about all the advanced scouting and stolen signs pinging into email boxes across the league each week. They would have thought through the intricacies of the situation. They’d know better than to, in effect, let a Wall Street fraudster say the real criminal is the subway purse snatcher.

They wouldn’t have served as pawns for whomever hired that private investigator.

Well, too late for that apparently. If they are going to hammer Jim Harbaugh and Michigan, so be it.

But the same crime is still the same crime, and if anyone took a moment to do their actual job, they’d realize it.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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CFB Saturday - Stealing Signs in Ann Arbor Edition [View all] , calij81, Sat Oct-28-23 11:37 AM
 
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Oct 28th 2023
1
Indiana taking it to the Papery Lions
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2
Shane Beamer's seat getting warm
Oct 28th 2023
3
utah qb is a pig farmer
Oct 28th 2023
4
kansas going for 2 in the 3rd qt might cost them this game
Oct 28th 2023
5
Bad decision and I thought it was going to cost them
Oct 28th 2023
6
masterclass in offsetting 2 point conversion failures
Oct 28th 2023
7
      It really was
Oct 28th 2023
10
USCs defense really is terrible
Oct 28th 2023
8
utah got a lil too much hype for beating sc
Oct 28th 2023
9
Farmer turned QB finally caught up to them
Oct 28th 2023
12
i mean, they are the 2x defending champions
Oct 29th 2023
26
That was some bullshit by the refs to allow SC to kick that FG
Oct 28th 2023
11
brutal beat
Oct 29th 2023
21
Duke needs to sit Leonard
Oct 28th 2023
13
Boy Hunter is a ball hawk
Oct 28th 2023
14
Ohio State offense = throw it to Marv Jr and pray
Oct 28th 2023
15
colorado line seems to be getting worse every week
Oct 28th 2023
16
why is Sanders still in the game?
Oct 28th 2023
17
to backdoor the spread
Oct 28th 2023
18
Arizona one of the most improved teams in the country
Oct 29th 2023
19
Fisch could be a good coaching candidate to replace harbaugh
Oct 29th 2023
24
VOLS, BITCH
Oct 29th 2023
20
damn, Georgia Tech beat UNC...again?
Oct 29th 2023
22
UNC defense is trash, and that WR got blasted into next week
Oct 29th 2023
23
      yep. a good offense, and ASS defense
Nov 07th 2023
30
I had wash beating sc by at least 50 next week
Oct 29th 2023
25
it aint like the old days.. is it NIL?
Oct 29th 2023
27
Me either.
Oct 29th 2023
28
?
Nov 02nd 2023
29
fitting that The Suckas Up North are caught in a Boody-esque scandal
Nov 07th 2023
31
so are we keeping the same energy, or should we just move on?
Nov 07th 2023
32
Agenda riddled losers are the only ones making this a thing
Nov 07th 2023
33
i imagine the chorus of indignant ADs will be a lot quieter this week
Nov 07th 2023
34
same energy boys (link)
Nov 07th 2023
35
Watch how fast anonymous sources hold no water
Nov 07th 2023
36
      guess we know why there is no helmet mic
Nov 07th 2023
37
they all do this idk why people are acting brand new about it
Nov 07th 2023
38
because they dont like losing to Michigan
Nov 07th 2023
39
Nobody cares, the grim reaper is coming ..and you’re scared nm
Nov 07th 2023
40
of what? 😂
Nov 07th 2023
41
emojis can’t hide the anxiety we all know you’re feeling
Nov 07th 2023
42
      very brave of you to acknowledge being a doormat's doormat
Nov 07th 2023
43
           Like I thought , scared and unsure of the future
Nov 07th 2023
44
                Math.
Nov 07th 2023
45
                75 years
Nov 07th 2023
46
                     Almost the anniversary of Dewey beating Truman!!!
Nov 07th 2023
47
                and in the last 2 years youve seen zero
Nov 07th 2023
48
                     Just making sure you know what doormat means
Nov 07th 2023
49
                          well that doesnt really answer my question, now does it?
Nov 07th 2023
50
                               I’m not clairvoyant
Nov 07th 2023
51
                                    You lied.
Nov 07th 2023
52
                                         😂
Nov 07th 2023
54
                                         Two decades and change ,
Nov 07th 2023
55
I've been scared from the beginning of all this.
Nov 07th 2023
56
      coaches have got hit with LOIC for a lot less than this...
Nov 07th 2023
57
           The question for me is the timing of the punishment.
Nov 07th 2023
58
           which ones?
Nov 07th 2023
59
LMAO - now this motherfucker is a vacuum magnate??
Nov 07th 2023
53
can't wait for the 30 for 30 on this scandal... lol
Nov 08th 2023
60
Facts. The Marine’s Manifesto ALONE will be gold.
Nov 08th 2023
61
      I can already see the ominous shot from the trailer
Nov 08th 2023
62
           LMAO
Nov 08th 2023
64
Big 10 should throw the book at Harbaugh, he'll never see it coming
Nov 08th 2023
65
Stephen A thinks michigan should banned,
Nov 08th 2023
66
      I definitely care what Stephen A has to say
Nov 08th 2023
67
           SAS, Finebaum, and some loser from PTI 20 yrs ago
Nov 08th 2023
68
                Just trying to break up the maize and blue circle jerk
Nov 08th 2023
69
                     emojis can’t hide the anxiety we all know you’re feeling
Nov 08th 2023
70
                          My alma mater didn’t get a disciplinary notice from the Big 10
Nov 08th 2023
71
Does anyone outside of Michigan and OSU really care about this?
Nov 08th 2023
72
Do you have a Tv ?
Nov 08th 2023
73
Who still subscribes to cable or even watches ESPN in 2023?
Nov 08th 2023
74
      there are sports on ESPN .
Nov 08th 2023
75
           Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I meant who watches ESPN non live sports
Nov 08th 2023
77
i dont care about this actually
Nov 08th 2023
76
      I didn't care until it kept growing
Nov 09th 2023
78
           Hear about the vacuum business?
Nov 09th 2023
79
                that violated his HOA.. this dude breaks stuff everywhere he goes
Nov 10th 2023
89
Harbaugh suspended...but can coach practice (we tamnbout practice?!)
Nov 10th 2023
80
These people are frauds lol...
Nov 10th 2023
81
CFB is ran by a bunch of well paid, white men who are exist
Nov 10th 2023
83
5 year show cause, 2 year bowl ban, including this year...
Nov 10th 2023
84
just landed in PA, hope he brought his mask
Nov 10th 2023
82
does he go to the NFL next year?
Nov 10th 2023
85
He should be fired immediately
Nov 10th 2023
86
what happens to the wins over this time period?
Nov 10th 2023
87
everything about this is a silly dog and pony show
Nov 10th 2023
88
Yeah, that’s how I feel as well
Nov 10th 2023
90
      pretty sure the rest of the Big 10 is big mad over this
Nov 11th 2023
91
           it's like any other news story. some people will care. others wont.
Nov 11th 2023
93
                I put a half a hunnid on your books
Nov 11th 2023
94
                     BS aside, I was on 3x side
Nov 11th 2023
96
                          thanks ceej!
Nov 11th 2023
97
this university, program, and fanbase has officially gone off the rails
Nov 11th 2023
92
Big 10 rushed to punish but don’t want to lose playoff money
Nov 11th 2023
95

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