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"2021-22 NBA Regular Season: Week 17 "
Tue Feb-08-22 04:10 AM by allStah

          

Carmelo Zone: Players who score an astronomical amount of points, but
don’t improve the performance of the team, because they don’t or can’t
do anything else, especially on defense. They are empty calorie players, and their
game lacks fiber and protein.

There are several players throughout the history of basketball who fall
under this category.

Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson, Adrian Dantley, World B Free, Dominique Wilkins,
etc. You see where I’m going here. Those are some serious scorers and some
are even top 75, but all were shit on defense and didn’t really make their teams
better.

I’m starting to believe Derozan fits in this category. In Toronto, the raptors constantly
came up short in the POs, and the Spurs went backwards after he was traded to
the team. He is an outstanding scorer, but he is a rag doll on defense, and I’m
not seeing any leadership skills from him.

Our big three are Carmelo Zone players... Lavine, Vucch, and Derozan are elite offensive players, but other than scoring points, they are seriously empty in
other aspects of the game. It’s very, very frustrating to watch. And I know
it’s frustrating for Billy to watch. Three allStar players should not be immensely
paper thin on defense.

Don’t let that score fool you, the Suns doo-doo’d all over us....and no one fears us.










ALL HAIL THE KING of LOSING: LEBRON
Bulls | Bears | White Sox | Yankees | Notre Dame | Illinois | Chelsea | Real Madrid

  

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AI didn't improve his team?
Feb 08th 2022
1
Hell naw.
Feb 08th 2022
2
      2001 disagrees with you
Feb 08th 2022
4
      You are buggin regarding AI
Feb 08th 2022
8
Zach LaVine is a max player.
Feb 08th 2022
3
You’re proving my point.
Feb 08th 2022
5
      Oh interesting. I was told there wouldn’t be a defensive fall off.
Feb 08th 2022
6
           I didn’t think there would be.
Feb 08th 2022
7
Beal out for the season. Give the keys to All Star Kuzma.
Feb 08th 2022
9
im never talking bad about russ or the lakers again.
Feb 09th 2022
10
haha... that was so amazing
Feb 09th 2022
11
I’d say LeBron is fired as GM
Feb 09th 2022
13
44 pts, 14 rbs, 8 asts...
Feb 09th 2022
12
Anthony Davis is a fucking BEAST
Feb 09th 2022
15
Nick Wright is that you? - lolololol
Feb 09th 2022
18
It's not just the 44 points - it's the fact he went 17-20 from the field
Feb 09th 2022
20
Lakers: it all starts with defense...
Feb 09th 2022
14
RE: Lakers: it all starts with defense...
Feb 09th 2022
16
Glad Lakers fans are finally calling this $h!t show out..
Feb 09th 2022
17
i believe this goes for all 30 nba teams
Feb 09th 2022
19
at what point does Thibs seat start to get warm?
Feb 09th 2022
21
Honestly, this year is worse than the Dwight/Nash year.
Feb 09th 2022
22
the Mickey Mouse chip
Feb 09th 2022
23
It's still very significant.
Feb 09th 2022
24
that bubble run is looking worse every passing year.
Feb 09th 2022
30
That was the worst season / nba playoffs in nba history
Feb 09th 2022
31
pretty much.
Feb 09th 2022
32
*shrug* Still counts.
Feb 09th 2022
33
Disagree - that's a historic 'chip for the Lakers
Feb 09th 2022
37
      the bubble was the easiest environment ever. it was a joke.
Feb 10th 2022
52
           That's an interesting revisionist history
Feb 10th 2022
59
           indisputable data = revisionist history?
Feb 10th 2022
61
                lol @ "indisputable data"
Feb 10th 2022
71
                     The players themselves said it was easier. Numerous times
Feb 11th 2022
104
                          Again: that was the case for everyone. The best/most resilient team won.
Feb 11th 2022
109
           welp.... print... scan... copy...
Feb 11th 2022
92
           That means it was easier for everyone else too, right?
Feb 11th 2022
107
been saying that from jump street...
Feb 09th 2022
35
None of this shit matters if they have any dog left in 'em...
Feb 09th 2022
25
I mean, sure.
Feb 09th 2022
26
They built this team to win NOW...
Feb 09th 2022
27
      He's going to be in the rafters.
Feb 09th 2022
28
fam i will never understand this.
Feb 09th 2022
29
Howard should be starting and closing out games...
Feb 09th 2022
34
Bron is playing soft this year? tf?
Feb 09th 2022
36
I'm calling out the entire team...
Feb 10th 2022
47
      I hear you - that's fair
Feb 10th 2022
60
yeah this team is more sorry than trash
Feb 09th 2022
38
I agree with this part...:
Feb 09th 2022
39
So... Derozan/Lavine not the best duo in the league anymore?
Feb 09th 2022
40
One month ago Steph Curry was the hottest player in the NBA
Feb 10th 2022
44
Caris LeVert: Just Coolin'!
Feb 10th 2022
41
"Diet Okoro"
Feb 10th 2022
48
can’t blame Russ tonight
Feb 10th 2022
42
speak on it...
Feb 10th 2022
46
Westbrook was never the problem...
Feb 10th 2022
65
Lakers are really gonna win 35 games with AD and Bron
Feb 10th 2022
43
AD got outplayed by Jusuf Nurkic tonight, can’t put that on Russ
Feb 10th 2022
45
bron is out.
Feb 10th 2022
49
      Where is he going?
Feb 10th 2022
50
      I wonder if Pat Riley would take him in again considering how he left
Feb 10th 2022
53
      Miami would have to give up a major younger piece or pieces and I'm...
Feb 10th 2022
56
      right....the same Pat Riley who refused to let damn near Prime Lebron...
Feb 10th 2022
62
      iono i aint psychic.
Feb 10th 2022
54
           *completely throwing it out there*
Feb 10th 2022
57
      Not sure if he's gonna leave because he wants to live in LA
Feb 10th 2022
51
      i cant see him grinding out the end of his career here.
Feb 10th 2022
55
      "Grind"? We're talking 2-3 more years at most, lol.
Feb 10th 2022
78
           That's a long ass time in basketball years
Feb 10th 2022
82
                I guess.
Feb 10th 2022
84
      LeBron ain't going anywhere.
Feb 10th 2022
58
           Is that the only other possible option?
Feb 10th 2022
83
                zactly... lol
Feb 11th 2022
106
                so that LA team pre-LeBron was going to win a 'chip?
Feb 12th 2022
117
      Bron will retire a Laker...
Feb 10th 2022
63
           Yeah I think we should stand pat for now and plan for next season…
Feb 10th 2022
64
           he gone my boi.
Feb 10th 2022
66
                Bron cleans the plate...
Feb 10th 2022
69
                     ey remember when i was saying durant was out (from the warriors)
Feb 10th 2022
70
                     If I remember correctly, you made that claim a year early
Feb 10th 2022
73
                     i remember it differently but we can agree to disagree.
Feb 10th 2022
74
                          lol you did get it right though
Feb 10th 2022
75
                     Family, you were out in front like shit, lol…
Feb 10th 2022
77
                     Durant was never the face of the franchise...
Feb 10th 2022
81
                     I honestly think next season may LeBron’s last…
Feb 10th 2022
76
                          No, he’s said it multiple times over the years….
Feb 10th 2022
79
pat bev been sitting on this russ tweet for 3 years.
Feb 10th 2022
67
fuck him, he intentionally injured Russ in his prime
Feb 10th 2022
68
Lmaoooo , this is like a prime uppage on OKS
Feb 11th 2022
93
right!?!
Feb 12th 2022
114
I do hate Pat Bev but this is funny as hell
Feb 11th 2022
99
.
Feb 10th 2022
72
.
Feb 10th 2022
80
How many 3s does Simmons make in his first game with the Nets?
Feb 10th 2022
85
He won't need to shoot 3s in Brooklyn at all.
Feb 10th 2022
86
      KD been out for a month. Kyrie cant play home games.
Feb 11th 2022
89
           i mean when kyrie ain't playing home games in the playoffs
Feb 11th 2022
94
What a week, yall.
Feb 10th 2022
87
Harden is trash now...? Interesting...
Feb 11th 2022
88
Seth will cook regardless, Doc has traded his sons and sons-in-law...
Feb 11th 2022
90
+the Rie shenanigans
Feb 11th 2022
91
Not trash at all.
Feb 11th 2022
95
Loved Seth... but I think he's easy to replace
Feb 11th 2022
96
I’m with you. And you guys kept Maxey which is bigger than people rea...
Feb 11th 2022
98
Why did DC trade Montrezl???
Feb 11th 2022
97
Locker Room Cancer
Feb 11th 2022
100
But I was told he wasn't unplayable.
Feb 11th 2022
101
      Trevor Ariza on line one.
Feb 11th 2022
102
           Bulls defense fell off, Trez is unplayable, Kuzma not an all star
Feb 11th 2022
103
                Kuz got a triple double yesterday and beat Kyrie
Feb 11th 2022
105
                     See what I mean?
Feb 11th 2022
108
Man, that Wiz November championship was something to see
Feb 12th 2022
122
      Too deep of team....all those dudes were fighting
Feb 13th 2022
132
           Should go swimmingly now.
Feb 15th 2022
157
The Cleveland Cavaliers: Now 2nd Seed in the Eastern Conference.
Feb 11th 2022
110
It’s legit admirable. Very cool to see.
Feb 12th 2022
111
      Building a team up from the ground , organically >> collecting stars*
Feb 12th 2022
112
           ironically, because of James Harden
Feb 12th 2022
113
           True.
Feb 12th 2022
115
           Shrug, even if it was, that's how I see it.
Feb 12th 2022
116
Kuminga starting to believe it
Feb 12th 2022
118
He is a mashup of Dray and Wiggins. That. Is. Scary.
Feb 15th 2022
158
      his ceiling crazy. added to rising stars, leading rookies in pp 36 min.
Feb 16th 2022
184
this dubs crowd seems like they got somewhere else to be.
Feb 12th 2022
119
dubs playing d like they got somewhere else to be too.
Feb 12th 2022
120
I miss oracle :(
Feb 12th 2022
124
      this shit is built too big or something. theres so much space.
Feb 12th 2022
126
klay back to bailing the whole team out.
Feb 12th 2022
121
curry is 1-8 from 3.
Feb 12th 2022
123
damn bron choked away the free throw.
Feb 12th 2022
125
knew it was a L when he went to the line
Feb 12th 2022
127
Klay saved their asses.
Feb 12th 2022
129
AD needs to take more than 13 shots.
Feb 12th 2022
128
EmVPiid.
Feb 12th 2022
130
Jokic ..MVP. Game winning block on OG anounuby
Feb 13th 2022
131
both Jokic and Embiid have been really amazing
Feb 13th 2022
133
As it stand now, I think he should get it this year too
Feb 13th 2022
136
Jokic's defense has improved tremendously the last couple years.
Feb 15th 2022
143
damn, MPJ….
Feb 13th 2022
134
dude wanna talk that pro black shit now?
Feb 13th 2022
135
This is why you don’t give dudes like him or Lavine
Feb 13th 2022
137
Celtics quietly sneaking up the standings
Feb 14th 2022
138
I see it. All of a sudden... the guard play they need
Feb 14th 2022
139
RE: I see it. All of a sudden... the guard play they need
Feb 14th 2022
141
Now Smart can go back to being a super sub.
Feb 14th 2022
140
The White trade was easily a top two deal at the deadline.
Feb 15th 2022
142
Brooklyn snaps streak with Curry & Drummond dominating
Feb 15th 2022
144
people like to shit on drummond but he's exactly what that team need
Feb 15th 2022
149
      Yup. I love it for the Nets.
Feb 15th 2022
156
           eh, i ain't holding my breath but i'll take it lolol
Feb 15th 2022
159
                lol I'm def bullish on Brooklyn (especially next year)
Feb 15th 2022
160
All these hit pieces on Hardens lack of commitment and conditioning comi...
Feb 15th 2022
145
The rift was with KD not Rie
Feb 15th 2022
146
Two corny ass emo dickheads , I wish they went to the Knicks smh
Feb 15th 2022
147
      BKN = The Emo Trio
Feb 15th 2022
148
      LOL
Feb 15th 2022
150
           They really tried the 7 seconds or less with an Uncle Drew roster
Feb 15th 2022
152
           Agreed, Marks and Nash …
Feb 15th 2022
154
                they said KD pushed for that, he's calling most of the shots in BK...
Feb 15th 2022
155
                     I think KD does whatever Kyrie wants , so he’s the one pulling the str...
Feb 15th 2022
161
harden got no credit in the bank. i'll allow it.
Feb 15th 2022
151
Harden was desperate to get that ring , hard to do with no help
Feb 15th 2022
153
i'm actually team harden in this situation..here's why
Feb 16th 2022
162
      RE: i'm actually team harden in this situation..here's why
Feb 16th 2022
163
Giannis dropped the most efficient 50 pt game I’ve ever seen
Feb 16th 2022
164
He's probably the best overall player in the world.
Feb 16th 2022
165
Am I wrong for making Hakeem Olajuwon comparisons ? He’s out there sha...
Feb 16th 2022
167
He might be better than Hakeem.
Feb 17th 2022
192
      great comparison. If Giannis can get another chip - he's top 15 to me
Feb 17th 2022
227
Can't disagree.
Feb 16th 2022
168
He is too strong to bully and is still quicker than most bigs
Feb 16th 2022
176
DeMar DeRozan last 6 games
Feb 16th 2022
166
he cookin. never really been a fan but i respect his persistence
Feb 16th 2022
173
he's been going nuclear, it he didn't have 3 bigs in the league playing....
Feb 16th 2022
174
Another one tonight.
Feb 16th 2022
181
he ballin... could have been a Laker...
Feb 17th 2022
219
why do people assume ben simmons is gonna be running the offense?
Feb 16th 2022
169
In one breath, Simmons had mental health issues
Feb 16th 2022
170
mental issues, free throws, etc.
Feb 16th 2022
171
      btw kyrie is only eligible to play *8* games in the remaining season.
Feb 16th 2022
172
      The issue to date with Ben is that he's the primary ball handler
Feb 17th 2022
195
I agree
Feb 16th 2022
175
KD played in that beautiful free flowing offense for one year w GSW
Feb 16th 2022
177
I loved the way JJ broke it down:
Feb 17th 2022
199
      A PG that refuses to shoot in the 4th and set the record for lowest FT%
Feb 17th 2022
205
      we'll see how it plays out
Feb 17th 2022
207
           You're wrong...and that's okay
Feb 17th 2022
220
                Time will tell who's "wrong"
Feb 17th 2022
221
                     I know it doesn't fit the narrative/Philly fan trope
Feb 17th 2022
223
      jj is a good dude but hes biased in favor of former teammates.
Feb 17th 2022
226
Detroit with a statement win vs Boston
Feb 16th 2022
178
we gotta lose games...need that Cade - Jabari connection to happen
Feb 16th 2022
180
      I’d honestly have Jabari 4th on the Detroit big board.
Feb 17th 2022
191
           I just don’t trust holmgren idk why , he seems frail af
Feb 17th 2022
193
Praying like Whoopi Goldberg in the Color Purple that Dolan fires Thibs
Feb 16th 2022
179
Thibs is a made man he ain't going nowhere
Feb 17th 2022
196
      That is the beauty of MSG...he can go downstairs and get on the train
Feb 17th 2022
198
damn ad went down kinda crazy.
Feb 16th 2022
182
RE: damn ad went down kinda crazy.
Feb 16th 2022
183
Fun year!
Feb 16th 2022
185
DeRozan setting impressive records out here.
Feb 17th 2022
186
wardell.
Feb 17th 2022
187
damnnnn.
Feb 17th 2022
188
      Joker TOO cold
Feb 17th 2022
190
Sure, he's injured NOW, but When Healthy?
Feb 17th 2022
189
hopefully we can get some picks and young talent and start over..
Feb 17th 2022
194
Your 2020 World Champion Los Angeles Lakers
Feb 17th 2022
197
By that line of reasoning, we should sign Pau, Shaq, etc
Feb 17th 2022
201
      I'm just pointing out the fact that you weren't ever on board
Feb 17th 2022
206
           Nothing about your post said any of that, lol.
Feb 17th 2022
209
I wonder if the bubble
Feb 17th 2022
208
Game 2 after trade: Brooklyn erases historic 28-point defecit
Feb 17th 2022
200
Tristan Thompson to the Bulls.
Feb 17th 2022
202
perfect pickup.
Feb 17th 2022
204
The Bulls are No. 1 again!
Feb 17th 2022
203
Hearing Nets fans drown out MSG w BROOOKLYYYN = priceless
Feb 17th 2022
210
LOL
Feb 17th 2022
211
The trading Bron and/or Brow sentiment is understandable but...
Feb 17th 2022
212
Yea, it's the Lakers. You dont have to draft your talent
Feb 17th 2022
213
We should if we have two top ten players
Feb 17th 2022
215
I always forget LeGM is a real thing lol , yea that’s gotta stop nm
Feb 17th 2022
217
Right. And this is probably the worst decade in Lakers history.
Feb 17th 2022
216
I have no illusions of that actually happening
Feb 17th 2022
214
RE: I have no illusions of that actually happening
Feb 17th 2022
224
      I mean, I'm well aware of Lakers history
Feb 17th 2022
225
           You try to act like the trade for AD wasn’t worth it, and it was, even...
Feb 17th 2022
229
                Do you think a title in 2020 changes the set of facts that exist today?
Feb 17th 2022
230
                     I think we pretty much agree and are just arguing for the sake of arguin...
Feb 18th 2022
232
                          Lmao ain’t no we. That was all you😂
Feb 18th 2022
233
we got the ring so this is already a success
Feb 17th 2022
218
      agreed lol...
Feb 17th 2022
222
AD out at least 4 weeks?
Feb 17th 2022
228
So? We won a title in 2020.
Feb 17th 2022
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