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171. "Requiem for the F1 2022 season"
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Tue Nov-29-22 02:04 PM by spenzalii

  

          

Been a week. Had time for things to coalesce. Let's see...

Congrats to Red BUll and Max Verstappen. Clearly head and shoulders above the field, for a number of reasons. At times it felt like Petronas domination circa 2014 - 2016. They got the regs and reliability right, and after playing 3rd string for so long get to rule the roost. It's not all candy and rainbows, as they have a decent penalty for the cost cap, and the interpersonal driver lineup with Max/Sergio/Danny is going to be something to watch and Horner to manage. Can they 3-peat? We will know soon enough.

Gotta feel bad for the Tifosi. Or, maybe not. Another season of high hopes, another season falls apart. This very well may just be Ferrari's MO. Sainz and Leclerc are very good drivers, but the car went from front of the pack to crap before the summer break, and both drivers never seemed to get on top of the car when they needed to. Binotto steps down, which was probably needed at this point, but I'm not entirely sure the fault was all on him. Fast car, wonky reliability, bizarre strategy calls, inconsistent pits, inconsistent drivers at times.... There are a ton of reasons Ferrari are where they are, and have been for years. Mattia being gone may be the first casualty, but I don't think it's the last

Goodbye and good riddance to the W13. Toto saying the cars are being placed in the lobby of HQ is a great thing, as Mercedes owns up to royally botching this season with an uncharacteristically bad car. Exactly what the concept was that they got wrong hasn't been said, but I'm not sure the extra slim sidepods were it. If there's any team that has the manpower and resources (most important, even in a cost cap series), it's Mercedes. Given the extra wind tunnel time they get finishing 3rd, and given RB is losing time, I think they can cut the gap. That said, they haven't been in this position since 2013, and with that car they knew what they needed to do for 2014 and stopped developing that car much earlier. Not entirely sure that can translate to 2023, but I have hope. George looks like the future, and Lewis didn't look like he got slower (though he had moments that didn't make sense, like Spa). They are the most stable team on the grid at this point, with the most decorated driver and the cache to back it up. Let's see how they get on next year

The midfield has the greatest shakeup. Will any of the moves get those teams out of F1.5? Who knows...

Alpine fills their driver hole with Pierre Gasley. This isn't a bad move for either party. Gasley has been much more consistent at AT (after getting booted from RB) and shown flashes of speed and consistency. Both he and Ocon seem pretty evenly matched skillwise, so they should make a solid team. The only things that may be a problem will be which driver will be top dog, and whether Renault/Alpine can give them and engine and car to break from the pack.

McLaren is also in a decent position to make some moves and break from the pack, but it's hard to say whether they will. Lando has great pace for sure, but it's harder to tell if it's the car or him that's holding him back from greater success. Piastri is the wild card, as he now has to prove the contract kerfuffle with Williams and Alpine were worth it to McLaren. I'm sure Zak Brown and company want to show and prove. Here's hoping they can

I've got no clue on Alfa. Zhou's results were hampered a bit by car reliability and some unfortunate crashes. Valtteri seems happy and made some decent moves through the field to end up 10th in the driver's standing. But unless the team has some cash injection or a development breakthrough, they may be facing more of the same

Grazzie Mille to Vettel. Got 4 chips at RB, but couldn't quite get it done at Ferrari, and seemed to waste his talents at Aston Martin. Even when they dropped the 'stroker' (cheater) engine in they couldn't quite beat Petronas, though not for lack of trying. Germany 2018 is going to stick with him. That said, it was nice to see him grow into a beloved elder stateman on the grid, with the 'Multi21' aftermath behind him. Here's hoping he enjoys his time away from F1 and goes to do great things.

That said, not sure Aston Martin is any better off with Alonso snapping up Vettel's barely cool seat. From a marketing view, it works great. On skill, Alonso still has quite a bit in the tank. Can Aston harness any of that? I have my doubts. I don't think he's that much faster than Vettel (if at all), and Vettel had struggles with that car. Regardless, he will likely do better than Stroll, who's just here because his dad owns the team, not because he's any good. He's still weaving on the straights at this point in his career,, which is all you need to know.

Gunter is a personality, that's for sure. As a team principal? Not sure getting two ex-girlfriends as your drivers is a great strategy long term or short term, but it was great K-Mag was back last year, and Hulk should be a welcome return as well. Was bringing Nico back better than sacking Mick? No clue. Mick has huge shoes to fill and likely will never be his pops, but he never was supposed to be. Does he have more upside than either of the seasoned Haas drivers? I'd like to think so, but there weren't many memorable drives during his tenure, and K-Mag outdriving him most of the season couldn't have helped. Regardless of whose driving, do they have a decent car to drive, or will they be near the back of the pack again? I'm betting on the latter, and more spicy clips on Drive to Survive from Gunther.

AT has a weird year. They had moments of competitiveness, and moments of malaise. Yuki should be placed as the man at that team, but it doesn't look like any of the data or development from RB has trickled down to AlphaTauri, so they could be in a similar spot next year. Can Nyck D handle the bright lights? Better conspiracy question: Will RB lok at either of their drivers over Danny Ricc (more on him later) when they chose to dump Perez? Not saying it will or should happen, but given Marko's history, I wouldn't bat an eye if it comes to fruition.

Glad Alex Albon has a seat, but it's at Williams, so...I guess he's doing it for the love of the race, maybe? I do think he got a raw deal at RB, but there's not a big enough sample size to say if he deserves a better ride. The car has been fast in qualis, so there's something buried in that heap. Will Alex be the one to help develop the car and program, or is he biding his time? No clue. Prepare for another blue flag season.

Ricciardo. I'm not sure what to say. He left RB not to be #2, only to go back as a #3 (if that)? Renault and McLaren weren't great stints for him, whether it was the car never suited his style or his skill regressed (or somewhere in the middle). But to play the understudy in a production you KNOW is not gonna go your way is puzzling. He knows how things went with him and Max. He's seen how the junior drivers have fared. He's seen how Sergio has been handled. Why would you sign up for another chance at any of that? He's fast, yes, but he was JUST faster than Max before he left, and I'm sure Max is much faster than Danny now in that RB. And there's no telling whether Helmut wakes up, has his coffee, and pulls a junior driver from F3 to pair with Max, let alone promoting Nyck from AT. If there's some ambassador role he's playing, great. Sounds like an easy paycheck. But as a move to stay a F1 driver? I don't quite get it.

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RE: Motorsports 2022
Jan 26th 2022
1
RE: Motorsports 2022
Jan 27th 2022
2
      RE: Motorsports 2022
Jan 27th 2022
3
Lewis will drive this year. I'm not even worried
Jan 31st 2022
4
Loving the look of these new spec cars
Feb 26th 2022
5
Can't be worse, really.
Feb 26th 2022
6
MotoGP this year is gonna be lit
Feb 27th 2022
7
My plan is to watch more this season.
Feb 28th 2022
8
My Moto GP videopass renewal just hit
Feb 28th 2022
9
      NBCSN in the US, evidently.
Feb 28th 2022
11
I'm gonna commit to watching a few races this year
Feb 28th 2022
10
      I hear you...
Feb 28th 2022
12
Anybody watch the Moto GP opener?
Mar 07th 2022
13
Yeah.
Mar 07th 2022
14
Drive to Survive is back.
Mar 12th 2022
15
So that was interesting.
Mar 19th 2022
16
RE: So that was interesting.
Mar 19th 2022
17
      That 3 AM start time ruled me out.
Mar 20th 2022
20
           Yeah I don't usually watch it live either
Mar 20th 2022
21
I cackled lol.
Mar 20th 2022
18
Ho-Lee-Crap! If this is how the racing will be this year, I'm good
Mar 20th 2022
19
So I think the new ground-effect regs are working pretty well so far.
Mar 20th 2022
22
Saudi Arabia
Mar 25th 2022
23
Yeah...I have to compartmentalize in a way I don't like.
Mar 25th 2022
24
Update: eff this track.
Mar 26th 2022
25
      RE: Update: eff this track.
Mar 27th 2022
26
           RE: Update: eff this track.
Mar 28th 2022
27
                RE: Update: eff this track.
Mar 28th 2022
28
Back to Melborne this week. Let's see what happens
Apr 07th 2022
29
RE: Back to Melborne this week. Let's see what happens
Apr 07th 2022
30
      It made me want to buy an Aprilia.
Apr 07th 2022
31
Sort of weird, boring, and ugly.
Apr 10th 2022
32
RE: Sort of weird, boring, and ugly.
Apr 10th 2022
33
Yeah, saw the COTA race.
Apr 10th 2022
34
Tifosi have hope, for sure. But, will Ferrari go and Ferrari?
Apr 11th 2022
35
      RE: Tifosi have hope, for sure. But, will Ferrari go and Ferrari?
Apr 11th 2022
36
Imola Sprint Weekend
Apr 22nd 2022
37
Sprint was fun.
Apr 23rd 2022
38
      Yeah, it's not fun watching Hamilton right now.
Apr 24th 2022
39
           Hamilton, and Mercedes, never had a chance this weekend
Apr 25th 2022
40
           Miller cleaning out Mir was compelling TV.
Apr 25th 2022
41
                RE: Miller cleaning out Mir was compelling TV.
Apr 25th 2022
42
Upping this before it drops to Page 2.
May 06th 2022
43
Afternoon F1 races. Is it 4 this year?
May 06th 2022
44
Don't really grasp the start times...
May 07th 2022
45
Guess that was all right.
May 09th 2022
46
      RE: Guess that was all right.
May 09th 2022
47
Moto GP Le Mans weekend
May 13th 2022
48
I know very little, but the program can't be THAT expensive to run.
May 16th 2022
49
      RE: I know very little, but the program can't be THAT expensive to run.
May 16th 2022
50
Crippling day for Ferrari.
May 22nd 2022
51
Welcome to the season Mercedes!
May 22nd 2022
52
      That snap oversteer the Ferrari was showing is interesting.
May 22nd 2022
53
           the point has been made that it's got an extremely edgy setup
May 23rd 2022
54
Lewis' drive was kinda ominus....
May 24th 2022
55
Watched MotoGP, F1, Indy, but skipped the 600.
May 30th 2022
56
I watched the Moto GP/2/3 races, and F1
May 30th 2022
57
Greatest day in motorsport, and I was napping
Jun 01st 2022
58
      I will miss it.
Jun 03rd 2022
59
Espargaro finding creative ways to drop points.
Jun 05th 2022
60
RE: Espargaro finding creative ways to drop points.
Jun 06th 2022
61
Ferrari don't look good right now
Jun 13th 2022
62
Yeah, Ferrari should be running away with it.
Jun 15th 2022
63
Interesting weekend.
Jun 20th 2022
64
RE: Interesting weekend.
Jun 20th 2022
65
      Update: Fabio is trying to throw the lead away.
Jun 27th 2022
66
           RE: Update: Fabio is trying to throw the lead away.
Jun 27th 2022
67
                Yeah, kinda taking a shine to Bagnaia.
Jun 27th 2022
68
Silverstone weekend. Let's see what happens
Jul 01st 2022
69
That was pretty wild.
Jul 04th 2022
70
Checo is the Hamilton stopper
Jul 04th 2022
71
      Man, I've loved Checo for years.
Jul 04th 2022
72
      RE: Checo is the Hamilton stopper
Jul 04th 2022
73
      Yeah, after that SC Checo was gonna be a problem
Jul 04th 2022
74
Mercedes gonna mess around and end up 2nd in the Constructors
Jul 11th 2022
75
LOL @ the passive voice.
Jul 11th 2022
76
      Man, I get that that one was still a pen and everything.
Jul 11th 2022
77
      I didn't say it was egregious.
Jul 11th 2022
78
           Fair lol I was just annoyed by the discourse. Netflix drama.
Jul 11th 2022
79
      russell didn't punt him.
Jul 11th 2022
80
           Pretty much. This wasn't Perez' first time in the gravel at the Red Bull...
Jul 12th 2022
81
                oh I know you know
Jul 18th 2022
82
LeClerc must not want it
Jul 25th 2022
83
Are you mainly
Jul 26th 2022
85
      Those drives through the field tend to win it.
Jul 26th 2022
86
Ferrari is really gonna Ferrari
Jul 25th 2022
84
Ferrari be finding ways to f**k up weekly, uncanny!
Jul 26th 2022
87
Vettel is retiring
Jul 28th 2022
88
Hope he sticks around.
Aug 01st 2022
89
Signed Alonso to fill his seat already!
Aug 02nd 2022
91
Don't even know what to say about Ferrari at this point.
Aug 01st 2022
90
Silly Season begins with a bang
Aug 03rd 2022
92
MotoGP adding sprint races.
Aug 20th 2022
93
Interesting, wasn't really paying attention until Sunday this weekend
Aug 20th 2022
94
      Yeah, may as well try it.
Aug 22nd 2022
95
           RE: Yeah, may as well try it.
Aug 22nd 2022
96
What a wild mistake from Hamilton.
Aug 28th 2022
97
Bizarre and uncharacteristically amateurish.
Aug 28th 2022
98
      It's a shame
Aug 28th 2022
99
           Eh, he had to retire, so no real point to a penalty.
Aug 28th 2022
100
                Supposedly Alonso was in his blind spot
Aug 29th 2022
101
                     RE: Supposedly Alonso was in his blind spot
Aug 30th 2022
102
                          Yeah, you'd need some history on Max
Aug 30th 2022
103
That turned into something.
Sep 04th 2022
104
RE: That turned into something.
Sep 06th 2022
105
      Without the safety car, they may have been able to pull off a win
Sep 06th 2022
106
Bit anticlimactic.
Sep 11th 2022
107
RE: Bit anticlimactic.
Sep 12th 2022
108
Oh, NOW you can finish a race under a safety car. How nice...
Sep 13th 2022
109
Bagnaia to Marquez, post-race: "you on Venmo?"
Sep 19th 2022
110
Such an unfortunate series of events.
Sep 20th 2022
111
Good to be back in Singapore.
Oct 02nd 2022
112
RE: Good to be back in Singapore.
Oct 03rd 2022
113
yeah, plan to.
Oct 03rd 2022
115
Rain is one thing on a track. Rain on a street circuit? A bit dicier
Oct 03rd 2022
114
      Nonsense.
Oct 03rd 2022
116
Congrats to Max for World Champ #2
Oct 10th 2022
117
Maybe not sticking with RBR, but leaving Renault/Alpine...
Oct 11th 2022
118
      RE: Maybe not sticking with RBR, but leaving Renault/Alpine...
Oct 12th 2022
119
Last five laps of Philip Island were epic.
Oct 16th 2022
120
RE: Last five laps of Philip Island were epic.
Oct 17th 2022
121
Ross Chastain pulled off the craziest move I've even seen today.
Oct 30th 2022
122
Wow. That really was some video game strategy
Oct 31st 2022
123
      lol, that was nuts...
Nov 01st 2022
127
      The video looks like just his car was sped up
Nov 02nd 2022
128
About that Red Bull penalty...
Oct 31st 2022
124
RE: About that Red Bull penalty...
Oct 31st 2022
125
      Mostly tax stuff, evidently.
Nov 01st 2022
126
Nicely done to Bagnaia.
Nov 06th 2022
129
An Italian winning since Rossi, a Ducati winning after 15 years
Nov 11th 2022
130
Brazil GP. Sprint Weekend. Don't forget, Qualifying today :)
Nov 11th 2022
131
Oh yeah...thanks for the reminder.
Nov 11th 2022
132
      Well, that happened.
Nov 11th 2022
133
           Ended up interesting.
Nov 12th 2022
134
                RB testing out that medium today
Nov 12th 2022
135
What a race.
Nov 13th 2022
136
You gotta love Max. MDGAF
Nov 13th 2022
137
that's the problem, he doesn't keep the same energy!
Nov 13th 2022
138
      This is exactly what I meant
Nov 13th 2022
139
           LOL I feel you
Nov 13th 2022
140
                To be clear, I love the chaos more than Max
Nov 13th 2022
141
                     I said it at the beginning of the season and this cemented it
Nov 13th 2022
142
                     In Max's defense, all the great ones are horrible selfish pricks.
Nov 13th 2022
143
                          Very true. But we're talking about Max's asshollery today. Focus man!
Nov 13th 2022
144
                          On the flip side
Nov 14th 2022
146
                               You are right. Leclerc was BEGGING Ferrari to let him past
Nov 14th 2022
148
                          there's a line though
Nov 18th 2022
155
                     It would be hilarious
Nov 14th 2022
145
                     I think Max may have really really fucked up
Nov 18th 2022
157
                          Hmmm... I think Christian may be on that Al Davis - Just Win Baby!
Nov 18th 2022
158
                               oh I didn't say this year, or next year
Nov 20th 2022
161
                                    Ah, you're looking at the loooong game. Got it.
Nov 20th 2022
162
                                         yeah, like the dad in Invincible "I can wait 18 years"
Nov 29th 2022
173
Russell was ace. Glad to see it. Also think Merc may be faves for Abu...
Nov 14th 2022
147
Red Bull giving a masterclass on PR gaslighting and deflection (swipe)
Nov 18th 2022
149
I'm guessing this got blown up online
Nov 18th 2022
150
It probably would have been MUCH better to say nothing than release that
Nov 18th 2022
152
Red Bull is hilarious.
Nov 18th 2022
151
A pretty cool and very insightful photo courtesy of Lewis Hamilton
Nov 18th 2022
153
Eh...think they all get along fine, except the ones that don't.
Nov 18th 2022
154
      bro, there's only one of them that ignores team orders
Nov 18th 2022
156
      Man, I really have no feeling one way or the other.
Nov 18th 2022
159
           I really don't care to talk about it too much more either
Nov 19th 2022
160
           note the next line
Nov 29th 2022
172
      I promise you
Nov 21st 2022
169
           Oh, I very much intended to dump on Max all last week
Nov 21st 2022
170
Pretty dull race. Vintage Abu Dhabi, I guess.
Nov 20th 2022
163
next one is going to be longer.
Nov 20th 2022
164
Absence of a title race after about mid-season drained it.
Nov 20th 2022
165
      RE: Absence of a title race after about mid-season drained it.
Nov 21st 2022
166
           It's still Formula 1 and Formula 1.5
Nov 21st 2022
167
Best way to avoid helping your teammate? Peace the fuck out
Nov 21st 2022
168

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