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141. "Kirk Ferentz is a piece of shit. Confirmed again."
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I didnt want to make a whole new post for this

long story short....players allege racism and bias/nepotism , toxic settings, for years, and confirmed when university fires S&C coach Chris Doyle

University forms advisory group to listen to players grievances, lead member, former offensive lineman confirms everything is true and suggets Ferentz needs to resign

Ferentz signs contract extension and then disbands advisory committee after they all concur with lead member David Porter

https://theundefeated.com/features/kirk-ferentzs-dismissed-diversity-adviser-is-right-the-iowa-coach-should-resign/


You may have heard about the recent textbook examples of racism in the Iowa football program: N-words said by a white coach, Black players singled out for punishments that were not applied to white teammates, coaches who compared Black players with criminals and said things like “go back to the ghetto” and “dumbass Black player.” It all came to light in 2020, in a flood of testimony from former Hawkeyes.

Now that the dust has settled and the university has cashed an $8.2 million Citrus Bowl check, we are being asked to believe that head coach Kirk Ferentz is not accountable for any of the abuses on his watch. Apparently it wasn’t his fault, and even if it was, everything is fine now because Ferentz has relaxed the dress code, lets players use Twitter and permits them to kneel during the national anthem. Thanks for coming, kumbaya, happy Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

That was the jaw-dropping message sent last week when the university extended Ferentz’s contract to 2029 with a $2 million per year raise, and then Ferentz dissolved an alumni advisory group whose chairman, David Porter, had said the coach should resign.


The sum total of entitlement, blindness and arrogance shown by the coach and athletic director Gary Barta is enough to make me agree with Porter: They should step down.

“To truly leave this mess behind, Kirk Ferentz needs to go,” Porter told me in an interview this week. “If we don’t move on, we’re going to lose so much ground.


“I’m just tired of it. I really am,” said Porter, an All-Big Ten offensive lineman under Ferentz from 1998 to 2002. Referring to Iowa fans who are dismissive of the players’ concerns, he said, “I’m tired of the same old stuff happening over and over. I’m tired of people telling me, ‘You don’t know what you know, you didn’t hear what you heard, you didn’t see what you saw.’ I’m tired of it. A lot of us are.”

Ferentz declined through a spokesperson to be interviewed for this story. By itself, his new contract could pass for merely appalling. Cash rules college sports, Iowa just gorged at the trough of a New Year’s Day bowl game (a 20-17 loss to Kentucky), and other coaching deals are hitting nine figures. When Ferentz clapped his hands and made the alumni advisers disappear, though, the situation escalated to outrageous. But not surprising, given his pattern of refusing to accept full responsibility for the racism in his program.

Meanwhile, the university is fighting a lawsuit filed by former players who experienced the abuse. Ferentz will make $7 million per year through 2029, but Black players who were demeaned don’t deserve a penny?

Ferentz, Barta and Iowa’s all-white board of regents are banking on two things: The media will move on, and the fan base will cheer on in a state that’s 90% white and 4% Black. Judging by my angry Twitter mentions and the racist emails I’ve received since writing about the lawsuit, a lot of people want the whole topic of the Hawkeyes’ racism to vanish along with the advisory committee members.


The roots of the problem were revealed in the summer of 2020, when the murder of George Floyd by police emboldened more than 60 former players to speak out. The university commissioned an outside review, which corroborated the players’ accounts. The only person who faced any accountability was strength and conditioning coach Chris Doyle, who was allowed to resign with $1.1 million in severance pay. Offensive coordinator Brian Ferentz, the head coach’s son, has kept his job, despite being the subject of numerous complaints as well as the leader of a toothless offense ranked 121st out of 130 FBS teams. He makes $860,000 per year.

Porter told me that Ferentz has taken some of the committee’s suggestions, and the racial climate of the team has drastically improved. Ferentz has described relaxing rules about hair and tattoos and holding listening sessions. Black players and coaches say Ferentz has tried to understand where they are coming from. One of the major initiatives touted as solving the problem was the alumni advisory council, which included current NFL players Christian Kirksey and Desmond King and former NFL head coach Jim Caldwell.


Porter told The Gazette in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, that an October 2021 meeting between the group and Ferentz turned contentious. Porter had asked assistant coaches to detail their roles in creating a diverse, equitable and inclusive environment. Ferentz tried to delay the meeting, and when Porter insisted that it take place, some coaches did not come with real answers. Porter called them out on it. Porter told me that, overall, Ferentz implemented some of their suggestions but ignored others, such as an annual review and pairing Black student-athletes with alumni mentors.

On Jan. 2, Porter told his group in a text message chat that Ferentz, 66, who has led the Iowa program since 1999 and is the longest-tenured coach in the top level of college football, should retire. Another member of the committee, Jordan Lomax, tweeted that he and some other members disagreed with Porter. Lomax did not respond to my request for an interview.

On Jan. 11, Ferentz emailed the committee members that their services were no longer needed: “I have come to the decision that this is an appropriate time to dissolve the committee as it stands currently … I am giving thought to how we restructure the committee/board in a way that best serves our program.”

On Jan. 17, after The Gazette reported that he had dissolved the committee, Ferentz released a letter to players’ parents that said several members of the committee had asked to be released from their volunteer positions. Ferentz said he would reconstitute the group by selecting a group of younger alumni. He did not mention that he would be bypassing the group of backup committee members assembled by Porter. Steve Roe, Iowa’s assistant athletic director for communications, told me by email that Ferentz decided during the season to make the change, but “put off on announcing until the end of the season to avoid distraction.”


Here’s what I think really happened:

Ferentz is one of the most powerful people in the state of Iowa. By all accounts, his program demanded that players toe a hard line, and punished those who did not. He is not accustomed to his authority being challenged, let alone by someone once under his control like Porter.

All along he has avoided saying the word “racism” to describe what his players experienced, instead using phrases like “allegations of uneven treatment.” Nobody in Ferentz’s cocoon of enabling whiteness suggested it would be wiser or more empathetic to take a smaller raise, or perhaps make a significant donation to someplace like his university’s Afro-American Cultural Center.

Ironically, Porter started out thinking that Ferentz should stay. According to minutes of the advisory committee meeting from June 9, 2020, Porter told the group: “I’m all for letting KF know we want him to stay to be part of the change, but what change do we want? And how do we make sure it happens?”

When Porter demanded real change, Ferentz got rid of Porter.

Now Ferentz is free to call the plays for his next advisory committee. As long as he keeps winning games, he’s probably not going anywhere. Neither are all the other white men who control the multibillion-dollar college sports enterprise fueled by Black athletes. This is how systemic racism works. Those in control do what is needed to keep us productive. They placate the labor force with Martin Luther King Jr. quotes and powerless committees, and continue to enrich themselves while running out the clock on real justice.

Jesse Washington is a senior writer for The Undefeated. You can find him giving dudes the bizness on a basketball court near you.




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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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Urban Meyer FIRED in the middle of the night [View all] , BrooklynWHAT, Thu Dec-16-21 12:46 AM
 
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"I'm the head ball coach, I'll kick you whenever the fuck I want."
Dec 16th 2021
1
Damn, sucks that this happened to such a nice guy.
Dec 16th 2021
2
RE: Damn, sucks that this happened to such a nice guy.
Dec 16th 2021
11
FOH Urb
Dec 16th 2021
3
Goddamn, you got to be a stupid motherfoker to get fired on your day off
Dec 16th 2021
4
shoulda got his ass whooped in the parking lot too.
Dec 16th 2021
5
Or right on the spot, man…
Dec 16th 2021
8
      the kicker thing happened in august though?
Dec 16th 2021
32
           Yah, apparently before a preseason game
Dec 16th 2021
56
                Might some actual confirmation of this event be warranted here?
Dec 17th 2021
82
damn.. have to give Truth props on this one
Dec 16th 2021
6
Yeah some OSU folks got their panties in a bunch whenever I mentioned…
Dec 16th 2021
13
and the Jags knew about the kicking incident in August
Dec 16th 2021
16
Buckeye fans are cut from the same cloth as Meyer
Dec 16th 2021
18
Lol you still in your feelings , get over it .
Dec 16th 2021
20
      see what I mean.. lol
Dec 16th 2021
25
           I’m sure you’re a knowledgeable NFL fan , but you’re clueless abou...
Dec 16th 2021
31
                so its not normal to make a nfl/jags thread about cfb playoff expansion?
Dec 16th 2021
33
                YOU’RE A LOSER, I’M THE ONLY KNOWLEDGEABLE CFB FAN
Dec 16th 2021
36
                You think any criticism of your fav head coach is racism
Dec 16th 2021
45
                RE: I’m sure you’re a knowledgeable NFL fan , but you’re clueless ...
Dec 16th 2021
51
Lmao shut up . We all said he was a piece of shit who’d fail .
Dec 16th 2021
19
      a hit dog will holler but you know who I'm talking about lol
Dec 16th 2021
22
      Both of us said Meyer would fail, no idea what you’re talking about nm
Dec 16th 2021
34
      this guy is simply an obsessed mental patient at this point
Dec 16th 2021
26
           "okayplayer nm"
Dec 16th 2021
28
           breathe lol
Dec 16th 2021
35
                they going wild yo..
Dec 16th 2021
37
                exactly no response
Dec 16th 2021
38
                     Legs still upset that I pissed on his Mike Tomlin shrine
Dec 16th 2021
46
                     RE: exactly no response
Dec 16th 2021
57
                          Right. Meanwhile how many urban threads have you started on here? 50?
Dec 16th 2021
64
                               okayplayer. n/m
Dec 16th 2021
67
Yeah - this is even more extreme than Saban
Dec 16th 2021
15
Khan said a couple days ago…
Dec 16th 2021
7
Khan family some multitaskers man, the AEW show was great last night
Dec 16th 2021
9
Calling it now: Byron Leftwich as the new Jags Head Coach
Dec 16th 2021
10
That might be a good move….
Dec 16th 2021
14
Should’ve been his to begin with
Dec 16th 2021
24
i would root for them if that happens
Dec 16th 2021
29
I'm down with that.
Dec 16th 2021
78
"I had a better staff at Bowling Green"
Dec 16th 2021
12
the ego of (white) big time college fball coaches
Dec 16th 2021
17
Lol Shad Khan looks even dumber now and his mustache is absurd looking...
Dec 16th 2021
21
i can see him in egotrip's People Who Don't Rap
Dec 16th 2021
23
better watch your back marcus freeman!
Dec 16th 2021
27
I think the Sooners are really pissed right now too
Dec 16th 2021
54
      I was being sarcastic and making fun of truth’s dumb prediction
Dec 16th 2021
62
lmao at the college fans who say the NFL sucks because of the way they
Dec 16th 2021
30
RE: lmao at the college fans who say the NFL sucks because of the way th...
Dec 16th 2021
39
The lack of power kids have in college before the portal and NIL
Dec 16th 2021
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      RE: The lack of power kids have in college before the portal and NIL
Dec 16th 2021
70
typical coward bully, though…
Dec 16th 2021
40
Is this the worst coaching job in history?
Dec 16th 2021
41
it's the worst coaching job/hire of all time
Dec 16th 2021
42
A Tomlin hater said Meyer had no talent and wasn’t given a fair shot
Dec 16th 2021
44
Bobby Petrino was a worse hire
Dec 16th 2021
47
      Greg Schiano gotta be up there on the list...
Dec 16th 2021
50
           Lane Kiffin kicked 70 yard field goals
Dec 16th 2021
52
           I was really pissed Rutgers begged for him to come back,
Dec 16th 2021
53
           Rutgers gonna Rutger.
Dec 16th 2021
65
                mental illness / narcissm / megalomania?...bc I dont get it either
Dec 16th 2021
66
           can't compare urban's issues with schiano. not even close.
Dec 16th 2021
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                I’m talking purely about coaching and their records before
Dec 16th 2021
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                     RE: I’m talking purely about coaching and their records before
Dec 17th 2021
90
Ziggy needs to get on the phone with Khan right now
Dec 16th 2021
48
Dont put that on Jacksonville. We've been through enough. Lol
Dec 16th 2021
49
Oregon Notre Dame and Oklahoma are kicking themselves right now
Dec 16th 2021
55
you think another AD at a big time school gives him a shot now?
Dec 16th 2021
58
Greasy ADs are desperate for anyone who can win games
Dec 16th 2021
59
hell yeah.. college AD’s always go back to the same old well
Dec 16th 2021
60
urb college resume still teflon
Dec 16th 2021
75
I agree and I would add LSU to that list
Dec 16th 2021
61
yep probably so lol
Dec 16th 2021
63
Can you imagine him at FSU with a staff full of former players
Dec 16th 2021
68
he's about to embark on one of those redemption tours
Dec 17th 2021
80
I would probably take oklahoma off that list
Dec 17th 2021
88
I never knew Urban was this perverse.
Dec 16th 2021
71
You really don’t follow college football do you
Dec 16th 2021
73
      No. I do
Dec 16th 2021
      No. I do
Dec 16th 2021
74
      I follow the games.. not the coaches off field drama
Dec 21st 2021
95
https://twitter.com/nocontextcfb/status/1445451327715168256?t=D5C0mcz0YS...
Dec 16th 2021
76
Good.
Dec 16th 2021
77
this tenure was everything I hoped it would be
Dec 17th 2021
79
personally I'm not a fan of college head coaches jumping to the pros...
Dec 17th 2021
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      It’s highly dependent on the coach and situation.
Dec 17th 2021
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      RE: It’s highly dependent on the coach and situation.
Dec 17th 2021
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      Beilein couldve been great with a strong front office
Dec 17th 2021
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      Jimmy Johnson, Bill Walsh, Dennis Green, Jim Harbaugh all had success
Dec 17th 2021
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           exactly...
Dec 20th 2021
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I gotta say, this is a great OKS post title.
Dec 17th 2021
85
LOL
Dec 17th 2021
89
RE: I gotta say, this is a great OKS post title.
Dec 20th 2021
92
lol
Dec 20th 2021
91
The kicker should've flopped to get Urban fired sooner.
Dec 21st 2021
94
Lol Urban Meyer would have probably died if he did that to Seabass
Dec 21st 2021
96
I was really waiting for one of the players to kick his ass
Dec 21st 2021
97
I get the feeling that if a player seriously fucked Urban up
Dec 23rd 2021
98
      Beating up abusive bullies is perfectly applause worthy
Dec 27th 2021
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      what's the punishment for online bullies who stalk/harass others?
Dec 27th 2021
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      I would laugh
Dec 27th 2021
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           sorry if i dont take enjoyment in watching someone severely beaten
Dec 27th 2021
102
           you're projecting
Dec 27th 2021
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           I'm not projecting. I threw out a hypothetical scenario.
Dec 27th 2021
105
                man, you are literally projecting based on this reply thread
Dec 27th 2021
108
                     RE: man, you are literally projecting based on this reply thread
Dec 27th 2021
109
           We all gave a shit and called Brian Kelly garbage
Dec 27th 2021
104
           Kelly ain't the only one. Which only furthers my point.
Dec 27th 2021
106
                You have to know these reactions are because he physically assaulted
Dec 27th 2021
114
                     yes
Dec 27th 2021
115
                          the incident was reported to the NFLPA
Dec 27th 2021
116
           I'd buy a ppv of brian kelly getting beaten with a tire iron
Dec 27th 2021
117
                I remember people saying Kelly should be up on the crane…
Dec 27th 2021
121
           also worth noting that Doyle was Ferentz' right hand man for 20 years
Dec 27th 2021
107
                if Kirk Ferentz name gets mentioned for an NFL job, Ill bring that up.
Dec 27th 2021
110
                I don't think the bar of morality should be any higher for coaching
Dec 27th 2021
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                I get it bro. it's not that you're defending urban meyer
Dec 27th 2021
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                we have to make sure to mention all the evil coaches
Dec 27th 2021
112
                     is this for real?
Dec 27th 2021
113
                          once a coaching scandal is public people pile on
Dec 27th 2021
120
                               never deflected. only said that i didn't wish 2 see him seriously beaten...
Dec 27th 2021
122
                                    I’m referencing things you posted in this thread
Dec 27th 2021
124
                                         and you misinterpreted the intent
Dec 27th 2021
126
                                              posts here are free, what's your intent again?
Dec 28th 2021
131
                and once his firing and history was public Meyer hired him
Dec 27th 2021
119
                     I missed the part where I supported urban for hiring doyle
Dec 27th 2021
123
                          I never said you supported that hire
Dec 27th 2021
125
                               actually Guru brought up doyle
Dec 27th 2021
127
                               gotcha.. but bringing up Ferentz was an obvious deflection
Dec 28th 2021
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                                    RE: gotcha.. but bringing up Ferentz was an obvious deflection
Dec 28th 2021
132
                                         people said he should get his ass kicked
Dec 28th 2021
135
                                              yes it was my hypothetical..good job...we done yet?
Dec 28th 2021
137
                                                   depends if you need the last word
Dec 28th 2021
139
                                                        You must’ve misinterpreted ‘I have nothing left to say’
Dec 28th 2021
140
                               Y’all still arguing with this dude? He’s obviously a relative of Urb...
Dec 28th 2021
128
                                    lmao.. he def post like it
Dec 28th 2021
130
For the record I never said anything about “viciously / severely beate...
Dec 28th 2021
133
      Right. No one did. 3X took it to extremes to make
Dec 28th 2021
134
      yes it was MY example to which you directly replied
Dec 28th 2021
136
      players fight in practice all the time
Dec 28th 2021
138
**crickets**
Mar 22nd 2022
153
say that man didn't know who Aaron Donald was
Mar 21st 2022
142
Sounds like a real life Ted Lasso
Mar 21st 2022
143
Who's 99? C'mon.. this doesn't sound right
Mar 21st 2022
144
      he told his qb, who is from the south
Mar 21st 2022
145
           He meant Black dudes from the south , clearly
Mar 21st 2022
147
uncut gems
Mar 21st 2022
148
.
Mar 22nd 2022
151
He’s got a new job
Mar 21st 2022
146
lmao.. yall can’t quit Urb
Mar 22nd 2022
149
i mean its also ran by that MAGA schottenstein guy so what did u expect
Mar 22nd 2022
150
      I can’t wait for that Notre Dame matchup nm
Mar 22nd 2022
152
back on Fox for the CFB season.
Aug 19th 2022
154
the target demographic is what it is
Aug 19th 2022
155
Right I’d rather listen to Coach O from LSU…
Aug 20th 2022
156
Even when he lose he wins
Aug 20th 2022
157

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