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Ryan M
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"Morey has really botched this Simmons thing, hasn’t he?"


  

          

For whatever reason I rewatched that post Game 7 press conference Doc gave and still can’t believe he answered a layup of a question so badly….but even worse is how Morey has completely and totally fucked this Ben Simmons trade. You’d think he’d have sold as high as possible, and somehow has lost any and all leverage in the process. Good for Ben for realizing that he doesn’t owe it to the Sixers to increase his value (not that Harden needed to, but he did go out and play) but whew what a damn mess.

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Morey has really botched this Simmons thing, hasn’t he? [View all] , Ryan M, Thu Sep-09-21 11:36 AM
 
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All of Morey's leverage disappeared after the draft
Sep 09th 2021
1
But isn't Ben doing this just tanking his trade value even more?
Sep 09th 2021
12
      Ben certainly isn't helping his cause
Sep 09th 2021
13
           Obviously I dont see AD/Bron/Russ being traded
Sep 09th 2021
19
Klutch has really botched this Simmons thing.
Sep 09th 2021
2
Flaws and all is correct.
Sep 09th 2021
5
      That's the dumbest part of this whole saga
Sep 09th 2021
6
           Is he =/= can he be
Sep 09th 2021
7
                Doc didn't say can't, he said IDK
Sep 09th 2021
9
                     And he shouldn't have said that.
Sep 09th 2021
11
I don’t understand what Ben is doing, personally
Sep 09th 2021
3
I mean, the team/Doc sorta bailed on him.
Sep 09th 2021
4
      Again, you're contradicting yourself
Sep 09th 2021
8
      I'm not contradicting myself at all.
Sep 09th 2021
10
      I agree with you, except for one point
Sep 09th 2021
21
the thing that's bizarre to me
Sep 09th 2021
14
Seems like the best deal that'd actually be on the table for sure.
Sep 09th 2021
17
right. like sure you want Dame or beal but let's be real here
Sep 12th 2021
22
      Do you think CJ makes the 6ers a championship team?
Sep 13th 2021
23
           yes, I think so. championship-caliber for sure
Sep 14th 2021
29
                I think CJ is a Tobias Harris level piece
Sep 14th 2021
30
                     I think the context of the fit matters.
Sep 14th 2021
32
                          *shrug* if that's how you feel
Sep 18th 2021
44
                               I mean, I think the options are pretty clear.
Sep 18th 2021
45
                                    what would any of those deals do for Portland?
Sep 19th 2021
46
                                    I don't think a trade would be for just CJ
Sep 19th 2021
47
                                         Right, the order of preference is pretty clear.
Sep 20th 2021
49
Chauncey ain't trading for a non-shooting ass PG
Sep 20th 2021
48
      That's the thing imo-- Simmons shouldn't be used as the PG.
Sep 20th 2021
50
      Game 7 Ben Simmons had 13 assists and 8 rebounds.
Oct 19th 2021
159
Koby bet not trade for him.
Sep 09th 2021
15
Hot take incoming: waiting was/is probably the best move.
Sep 09th 2021
16
This all makes sense.
Sep 09th 2021
18
My only thing is this:
Sep 09th 2021
20
i agree...his value was shit after that series.
Sep 15th 2021
36
It's also interesting that Elton Brand doesn't get fried...he is the GM
Sep 13th 2021
24
I honestly forgot he was there.
Sep 13th 2021
25
RE: I honestly forgot he was there.
Sep 14th 2021
27
      ....and what's your point?
Sep 14th 2021
28
           That you don't know what you're talking about
Sep 15th 2021
33
                You know who else wouldn't make you as good as BK?
Sep 15th 2021
34
                     No, but it would make things way more interesting.
Sep 15th 2021
35
He’s not calling any shots at this point, he’s basically a figurehea...
Sep 14th 2021
31
3 total 4th quarter shots in a 7 game series...Lol
Sep 13th 2021
26
They're gonna keep him and fine him every day he doesn't show.
Sep 16th 2021
37
makes sense to me. Ben Simmons getting his wish is tied to his value
Sep 16th 2021
38
He can get traded without playing next year...
Sep 16th 2021
39
Send his ass to Sac for Fox
Sep 16th 2021
40
As they should. Ben’s in no place to be calling the shots.
Sep 16th 2021
41
Not a bad haul after all—- *edit I got faked*
Sep 17th 2021
42
LeBron James throws Ben Simmons under the bus with latest tweet
Sep 18th 2021
43
Lmao. What was the fake?
Sep 21st 2021
53
      A fake trade to the Spurs.
Sep 21st 2021
54
Ben to 6ers: "I'm not reporting, I'm never playing for Philly again."
Sep 21st 2021
51
"You're not good enough at your job, want to get better? We'll help"
Sep 21st 2021
52
Yeah I definitely think Doc fumbled that situation...
Sep 21st 2021
55
don't know if they'll be worse until we know what they get in return
Sep 21st 2021
56
unless they're getting a Dame or a Beal which they probably won't...
Sep 22nd 2021
71
      All the more reason to wait, really.
Sep 22nd 2021
74
What's baffling is that it was an unforced error.
Sep 21st 2021
57
      So if Doc said the opposite, what does that change?
Sep 21st 2021
58
           Let's not act like it was a disastrous postseason though.
Sep 21st 2021
59
                I think you're both right.
Sep 21st 2021
61
                I was specifically referring to the Hawks series. He put up decent
Sep 21st 2021
64
I really don’t fathom the issue with trading Ben Simmons.
Sep 21st 2021
60
they can trade him for Brogdon. That would be a level up for the Sixers
Sep 21st 2021
62
Actually that makes a ton of sense!
Sep 21st 2021
63
Money doesn't come close to matching.
Sep 21st 2021
66
Damn, that would be a good fit.
Sep 22nd 2021
70
RE: I really don’t fathom the issue with trading Ben Simmons.
Sep 21st 2021
65
      While Wiggins was certainly improved last season...
Sep 21st 2021
67
      Also, Wiggins has problems of his own cuz he refuses the vaccine, lol.
Sep 22nd 2021
93
      Wiggins guarded the opposing team’s best offensive player
Sep 21st 2021
68
           so? did he stop anybody?
Sep 22nd 2021
72
                Over 3 games against Kawhi Leonard
Sep 22nd 2021
73
                     are you making up stats?
Sep 22nd 2021
76
                          Good lord, dude. You posted a total game log. LoL
Sep 22nd 2021
77
A 33 million dollar playoff liability. borderline useless in April/May
Sep 21st 2021
69
he's a great player that had a bad playoff series, I would hardly call a...
Sep 22nd 2021
75
he doesn't score -at all- , he's like a Max deal PJ Tucker
Sep 22nd 2021
79
lol cmon, that's obviously not true.
Sep 22nd 2021
81
if the playoffs didn't feature a completely different brand of basketbal...
Sep 22nd 2021
88
      How many teams are contenders, though?
Sep 22nd 2021
89
           i don't disagree with any of this. the kings seem like a good destinatio...
Sep 22nd 2021
91
100% ,hes perfect for non playoff teams
Sep 22nd 2021
83
      I agree. Which I think is precisely why Morey is right to wait.
Sep 22nd 2021
85
           Daaron Fox on the Sixers would be scary nm
Sep 22nd 2021
90
                We all need this
Sep 22nd 2021
92
                The Sixers were a top 3 defensive team last year, they will be far from....
Sep 23rd 2021
98
                     Morey doesn’t give a fuck about defense,
Sep 23rd 2021
101
                          When you're a Top 2 offense in the league, it matters less, lol.
Sep 23rd 2021
102
                          No matter who they get in return, theyre droppign defensively
Sep 25th 2021
116
                          If you're built to be a defensive team with defensive minded personnel.....
Sep 24th 2021
103
                               Sacramento says "no ty, we're good. How about Buddy tho?" lol
Sep 25th 2021
115
doc on first take practically begging ben to come back.
Sep 22nd 2021
78
Best Oscar performance I have ever witnessed.
Sep 22nd 2021
80
Anyone here defending Simmons....
Sep 22nd 2021
82
Yeah this is a no brainer
Sep 22nd 2021
84
I don't think anyone's defending Simmons's decision.
Sep 22nd 2021
86
standard messageboard boilerplate deflection here
Sep 22nd 2021
87
You can say he’s limited.
Sep 23rd 2021
94
      It's not about how he's "rated"
Sep 23rd 2021
97
it's not my money, idgaf
Sep 23rd 2021
95
Yeah. Under no circumstance should your PG be in the "hack-a" group
Sep 23rd 2021
96
nobody's defending him but people trying to act like he's complete trash...
Sep 23rd 2021
99
Simmons treated himself like trash in that last series.. lol
Sep 24th 2021
107
      RE: Simmons treated himself like trash in that last series.. lol
Sep 24th 2021
110
Didn’t they sign other players because he can't shoot....?
Oct 19th 2021
154
From top to bottom, it seems as if everyone has botched this to be hones...
Sep 23rd 2021
100
Philly is not for the weak. If you go there you better have tough skin
Sep 24th 2021
104
Doc stays fucking up (swipe)
Sep 24th 2021
105
I think its a hilarious and perfect comparison
Sep 24th 2021
106
      Perhaps Doc should focus on getting value for a player
Sep 24th 2021
108
      So Doc is supposed to lie?
Sep 24th 2021
109
           Nice of you to show up.
Sep 24th 2021
112
                You must have bet the farm on Simmons
Oct 01st 2021
120
                     ?
Oct 01st 2021
123
                          feels like you are in your feels about Simmons
Oct 11th 2021
128
                               You are making no sense.
Oct 19th 2021
166
      RE: I think its a hilarious and perfect comparison
Sep 24th 2021
111
           Bash Philly as usual?
Sep 24th 2021
113
                Get out your feelings homie
Sep 25th 2021
114
Report: Sixers not paying Ben Simmons $8.25 million check owed to him
Oct 01st 2021
117
As I said in Reply 16, this was always the most logical path.
Oct 01st 2021
118
I'm a Knicks fan, not a Sixers or Ben Simmons fan.
Oct 01st 2021
119
Imagine not hooping for $8 million because your feelings are hurt....
Oct 01st 2021
121
Man he is digging in.
Oct 01st 2021
122
This is why I hated the Harden trade so much last year. Traditionally...
Oct 01st 2021
124
I feel like Kawhi initially going to the Clippers is what started this
Oct 01st 2021
125
IIRC, Harden had two years left… and Ben has *four.*
Oct 02nd 2021
126
C'mon Ben
Oct 11th 2021
127
lol yep. this is why you wait!
Oct 11th 2021
129
This guy is going to get booed soooooo much
Oct 11th 2021
130
yup
Oct 11th 2021
131
Eh. I'd rather see him cave than die on the sunk cost hill
Oct 12th 2021
132
hes back.
Oct 12th 2021
133
Something is seriously wrong with dude
Oct 12th 2021
134
RE: Something is seriously wrong with dude
Oct 12th 2021
135
He's also only 25.
Oct 12th 2021
136
no really strong vets on the team outside of maybe a Danny Green...
Oct 12th 2021
137
RE: if and when things go awry
Oct 12th 2021
139
RE: if and when things go awry
Oct 12th 2021
141
"He's also only 25."
Oct 12th 2021
140
      25 with 4 years and 100+ mill left on his contract
Oct 12th 2021
143
      I have no issues with him being held accountable
Oct 12th 2021
144
its called entitlement.
Oct 12th 2021
138
Nah this is spoiled brat shit
Oct 12th 2021
145
You were correct and I was wrong.
Oct 22nd 2021
191
Guess waiting was the right call.
Oct 12th 2021
142
This dude tried to covid his way out of game 7
Oct 15th 2021
146
Simmons suspended for season opener
Oct 19th 2021
147
Ben dribbled during a huddle
Oct 19th 2021
148
I'm sure other team presidents and owners are quietly pushing Morey...
Oct 19th 2021
149
This definitely plays a role, as does Philly's relationship with Klutch.
Oct 19th 2021
150
In baseball and basketball, star players always win.
Oct 19th 2021
151
      if he has a personality he can make it in TV
Oct 19th 2021
156
           Randy Moss wasn’t a problem in this way.
Oct 19th 2021
158
                I’m saying.. Simmons is having his moment
Oct 19th 2021
161
                     I agree with this.
Oct 19th 2021
167
literally no one likes this guy right now. and it's impossible to feel
Oct 19th 2021
152
This here.....
Oct 19th 2021
153
Doesn’t matter. Sixers crested this entire situation.
Oct 19th 2021
155
100% on Philly? Come On Man (c) Rex
Oct 19th 2021
169
this is what I saw at LSU. Welp, he'll be playing in China.
Oct 19th 2021
157
Crazy thing is... he *sucked* on defense at LSU.
Oct 19th 2021
163
RE: literally no one likes this guy right now. and it's impossible to fe...
Oct 19th 2021
160
I think he has a mental block on his shot
Oct 19th 2021
162
      You'd think this is true...
Oct 19th 2021
165
Rich Paul probably already got his commission...
Oct 19th 2021
171
i dont care about that man (c) embiid lol
Oct 19th 2021
164
lmao @ that man (c)
Oct 19th 2021
168
If I was Ben Simmons
Oct 19th 2021
170
Morey: "People should buckle in, this is going to go a long time."
Oct 21st 2021
172
It’s a player’s league.
Oct 21st 2021
173
Nah
Oct 21st 2021
175
      Harden had 2 left, but the point still remains.
Oct 21st 2021
176
      thats right
Oct 21st 2021
179
      not mention harden passed up big money to go to a *better* team
Oct 21st 2021
181
      How long have you been watching basketball?
Oct 21st 2021
177
           RE: How long have you been watching basketball?
Oct 21st 2021
178
           Ben is coming off the most shittiest series ever for a player of his cal...
Oct 22nd 2021
182
I feel morey
Oct 21st 2021
174
if thats true then they need to sit him and get him away from the team.
Oct 21st 2021
180
Simmons: "My back is tight"
Oct 22nd 2021
183
Its not just his back that’s tight
Oct 22nd 2021
187
RE: Simmons: "My back is tight"
Oct 22nd 2021
188
Woj reporting Ben met with the team…
Oct 22nd 2021
184
yeah, he's gonna play eventually.
Oct 22nd 2021
185
He doesn’t wasn’t to be there. And I can see him
Oct 22nd 2021
190
Man they gonna boo you whenever you come back
Oct 22nd 2021
186
Everything he's done since Game 7 has lessened his value
Oct 22nd 2021
189
Ben Simmons needs to get a real agent after all this is over
Oct 22nd 2021
192
he's not mentally ready...
Oct 22nd 2021
193
Hard to accept the mental health angle given...everything.
Oct 22nd 2021
194
Right. We see what's going on here.
Oct 22nd 2021
195
its a total lie. this is so they cant fine him.
Oct 22nd 2021
196
jay williams said his 'sources' told him ben now wants to play
Oct 22nd 2021
197
Usually players try to leave shit teams
Oct 22nd 2021
198
its entirely about hurt feelings.
Oct 22nd 2021
199
Shams saying the Celtics have engaged Philly in Simmons…
Nov 08th 2021
200
Hey, Marcus Smart said he wants guys who pass more.
Nov 08th 2021
201
Lol…he would not have to worry about Ben settling for the jumper
Nov 08th 2021
204
I’m pissed just at the prospect of this trade
Nov 09th 2021
208
RE: Shams saying the Celtics have engaged Philly in Simmons…
Nov 08th 2021
202
No way the Celtics trade Brown for Simmons. Funny sayin this now
Nov 08th 2021
203
I'm surprised Toronto hasn't offered a trade around Van Fleet.
Nov 08th 2021
205
am I nuts? I'd way rather have CJ and stuff than Van Vleet
Nov 08th 2021
206
      Depends on the stuff, of course…
Nov 08th 2021
207
Nah, he’s doing GREAT on this (link)
Jan 12th 2022
209
that was brutal..nm
Jan 13th 2022
210
      He’s arguably the worst contract in the league
Jan 13th 2022
211
Yesterday's prices are not today's prices
Jan 14th 2022
212
Washington isn’t bottoming out. They just got Harrell back
Jan 14th 2022
214
Have you apologized to Ja Morant yet?
Jan 14th 2022
219
      I don’t need to apologize to Ja.
Jan 15th 2022
225
This has been clear since the beginning.
Jan 15th 2022
224
Morey has really messed this up....seriously.
Jan 14th 2022
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RE: Morey has really messed this up....seriously.
Jan 14th 2022
215
Do you not keep up with the standings?
Jan 14th 2022
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      RE: Do you not keep up with the standings?
Jan 14th 2022
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           RE: Do you not keep up with the standings?
Jan 14th 2022
220
                Trashing the Lakers doesn't say shit lmao
Jan 14th 2022
221
                     It doesn’t matter. They play hard.
Jan 14th 2022
222
I think Morey is taking the longview on this
Jan 14th 2022
217
      The longer he waits the more Simmons loses value.
Jan 14th 2022
223
I said what I said. Morey is wasting an MVP level Embiid year.
Jan 24th 2022
226
I've never been a defender of Morey but he's playing his cards and...
Jan 24th 2022
227
Sauces…Philly content to wait…
Jan 24th 2022
228
LMAO!!! DEM BREADSTICKS!!!
Jan 24th 2022
233
      LOL
Feb 03rd 2022
235
I don't disagree with all that
Jan 24th 2022
229
Rich Paul looks amateurish as hell in all this
Jan 24th 2022
230
      I don't disagree but at the end of the day Simmons is a grown ass man...
Jan 24th 2022
231
Far better to waste one year than the rest of Embiid's contract.
Jan 24th 2022
232
If this rumor about Beal is true, yeah, he's fucking up
Feb 03rd 2022
234
If they are asking for Maxey or Matisse
Feb 03rd 2022
236
Nah, not at all. No way you trade 2 young, ascending players
Feb 03rd 2022
237
yeah I think Beal can opt out after this season, could be another Butler...
Feb 03rd 2022
238
      Right, Washington has zero leverage.
Feb 04th 2022
240
Simmons or TO gotta be the most disliked player in philly sports , mayb...
Feb 04th 2022
239
for me it's simmons, easily
Feb 04th 2022
241
t.o. still gets a ton of love from philly fans.
Feb 10th 2022
243
Did you see him on Shannon Sharpe podcast ?
Feb 11th 2022
254
nah.. TO balled out on a bum leg in the SB
Feb 10th 2022
249
      That’s true , they love grit
Feb 11th 2022
253
*cough*
Feb 10th 2022
242
Big W for Morey.
Feb 10th 2022
248
Reply #16. Morey won.
Feb 10th 2022
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kept maxey and matisse too.
Feb 10th 2022
246
And kept Harris too. Philly is set up like Rudy T's Rocket squads
Feb 11th 2022
255
      That's super accurate. Wow
Feb 11th 2022
258
           They can play inside out ...Embiid isn't Dream like on defense
Feb 11th 2022
259
Sup
Feb 10th 2022
245
I mean, to be fair
Feb 10th 2022
247
      Basically got James Harden for *free*
Feb 11th 2022
257
Glad Morey stuck to his guns
Feb 10th 2022
250
Embiid a hoe
Feb 10th 2022
251
Huh? Pretty sure he spoke up a couple months ago with his displeasure. ...
Feb 11th 2022
252
Have you been in hibernation for the last year? Lol
Feb 11th 2022
256
Lol
Feb 11th 2022
261
You mean Ben Simmons?
Feb 11th 2022
262
EMVPiid
Feb 11th 2022
260
I think it worked out for both sides.
Feb 13th 2022
263
Agreed. n/m
Feb 13th 2022
264
the fans win too, its been a while since we had a real NBA rivalry
Feb 13th 2022
265
RE: a bad situation
Feb 14th 2022
267
      RE: a bad situation
Mar 11th 2022
292
the other 'win' of this is
Feb 13th 2022
266
      All credit due to Maxey's improvement and Jo's leadership
Feb 14th 2022
268
Ben Simmons is the worst
Mar 08th 2022
269
He has every right to!
Mar 08th 2022
270
I wouldn't be surprised
Mar 08th 2022
271
Hope he loses
Mar 08th 2022
272
I hope he gets the FULL Philly treatment
Mar 08th 2022
273
this guy is every gen z stereotype in a nutshell
Mar 08th 2022
274
every generation had some bitch ass niggas in it
Mar 08th 2022
275
any quotes in that article? i could only find one from mid november
Mar 08th 2022
276
if he is using his treatment from fans as evidence
Mar 09th 2022
283
      man lawyers use everything lol
Mar 09th 2022
284
if I paid agents / lawyers as much as he did, I'd do the same.
Mar 08th 2022
277
pretty much
Mar 08th 2022
278
Will he be filing a grievance against BKN too?
Mar 08th 2022
279
He's not even playing.
Mar 09th 2022
282
Thank God it snowed???
Mar 08th 2022
280
So many Ls in this post now that the dust has settled
Mar 09th 2022
281
      yeah i wrongly assumed dude would be ready to play in 1-2 weeks max
Mar 09th 2022
285
           Windy and Shelbourne being Klutch mouthpieces was surprising
Mar 09th 2022
286
Did the Nets actually win the trade?
Mar 11th 2022
287
I think we still have to wait & see how Ben plays
Mar 11th 2022
288
i think they'll both wind up winning
Mar 11th 2022
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I think so too, actually.
Mar 11th 2022
290
Clearly
Mar 11th 2022
291
didn't Brooklyn lose something like 20 out of 25 prior to this?
Mar 11th 2022
293
oh is that all that's different
Mar 11th 2022
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      Lol
Mar 11th 2022
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      lol
Mar 11th 2022
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      lmao
Mar 12th 2022
300
I actually think the initial diagnosis was/is correct.
Mar 11th 2022
297
Little Ben hasn’t played pro ball in 9 months
Mar 12th 2022
298
I dunno, Harden let Kyrie harass him into a 3/17 night
Mar 12th 2022
299
      You didn’t address the point in my reply
Mar 12th 2022
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           I didn’t say anything about his offensive abilities or lack thereof
Mar 12th 2022
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                RE: I didn’t say anything about his offensive abilities or lack thereo...
Mar 12th 2022
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                     I can't stand this Nets team
Mar 12th 2022
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                          Ben Simmons is trash and has zero trade value . Morey woN BIG
Feb 07th 2023
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i don't think so
Feb 08th 2023
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Ben Simmons to his lawyers…
Apr 02nd 2022
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Have you apologized to Daryl Morey yet?
Jun 30th 2022
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lol
Jul 01st 2022
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NM
Jul 01st 2022
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Should the Nets learn from this regarding Durant & Ky?
Jul 01st 2022
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*giggles*
Feb 03rd 2023
310
Oh yeah this is an L. Not sure if I claimed it but whewwwww
Feb 03rd 2023
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Some wannabe great,some wannabe good,some just there…Bum don’t care.
Feb 05th 2023
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Embiid is playing hall of Fame level
Feb 05th 2023
313
Hm.
May 16th 2023
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lol cmon.
May 16th 2023
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HMMMMMMMMMMM
Oct 28th 2023
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