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North Carolina players not in favor of proposed 12-team College Football Playoff, says coach Mack Brown

North Carolina coach Mack Brown said Thursday that during a team discussion about the expanded 12-team College Football Playoff, his players were against the format and preferred six to eight teams.

During a wide-ranging Zoom with reporters, Brown mentioned that ACC commissioner Jim Phillips had asked all coaches to get feedback from players about playoff expansion. Last month, the CFP board of managers authorized commissioners to move forward with expanding from four to 12 teams, with an implementation date to be determined.

North Carolina linebacker Jeremiah Gemmel told ESPN that nobody on the team raised their hand in favor of a 12-team playoff. He said a few players preferred to stay at four, while the majority was split between six and eight teams.

"I feel like 12 teams is too many games in a season for players who want to play long-term football," Gemmel said in a phone interview. "Sixteen, 17 games in a season is a lot of wear and tear on the body, especially for guys who don't come out when they're playing."

Players also felt strongly that conference champions should get an automatic spot, in addition to the top Group of 5 champion. Under the proposed 12-team format, there would be no automatic bids. In addition, Brown said some players wondered whether there were 12 teams good enough to win the national championship.

"Because they wanted the playoffs to be about who is good enough to win all the games or win the national championship, not just have a bunch of teams involved," Brown said.

Interestingly, North Carolina might have benefited from a 12-team format last season. The Tar Heels finished the regular season 8-3 and received a spot in a New Year's Six game against Texas A&M in the Capital One Orange Bowl after ranking No. 13 in the final CFP standings. There is little doubt they would most definitely have been in the discussion to take the final spot.

"Just talking with some guys on the team, when we let Virginia and Florida State slip away you can't get those games back," Gemmel said. "I don't feel like we deserve to be in the playoff if you lose two games like that during the season."

Phillips said in a statement last month after the board of managers approved moving forward with expansion that the league looked forward to having student-athletes participate in the discussions about what is best for postseason college football.

Brown lamented the fact that the expansion discussion and subsequent decision moved as quickly as it did, without getting as much input as possible from all the stakeholders. The CFP management committee is currently going through a summer review with bowl games and ESPN to determine the feasibility of the 12-team plan. The board is next scheduled to meet in September.

"I said that we need more inclusion in my opinion with athletes that are playing, and we need more inclusion from the coaches that are coaching it, so the voice needs to be heard," Brown said. "Decisions aren't finalized yet, but I did think it was important our commissioner wanted reactions from our players. We're just trying to make sure that everybody understands what the thoughts of everybody are when we go into such a huge jump from four to 12, instead of just having it happen."

Gemmel added that while playoff expansion will open the field to more teams, he and his teammates have only one goal in mind: Win every game and become ACC champions.

"It's giving us a better opportunity to get in the playoffs, but that's not really our cause right now," Gemmel said. "We're trying to win every football game and win the ACC championship, so we want to be top four regardless going into the College Football Playoffs. We thought between the 12, 6 and 8, maybe we slip a game here and there, but everybody's thoughts on the team is we're winning every game, and we're winning the ACC championship. Why worry about if we come in 12th place, we're in the playoff? We're not thinking about that. We're thinking about being the No. 1 team in the nation. That's a good thing."


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CFB and the 12 team playoff expansion [View all] , legsdiamond, Fri Jun-11-21 11:53 AM
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Hate the idea but I'll watch it so lets get on w/ it
Jun 11th 2021
no shit. and this is the giant elephant in the room
Jun 11th 2021
      I agree with everything you said, especially the GQP that’s growing
Jun 11th 2021
           its definitely all about the occasional upset
Jun 11th 2021
I hate it. Bring back the BCS
Jun 11th 2021
its not the same model every other college division and high schools use
Jun 11th 2021
I would argue that CFB is approaching the MLB model more
Jun 11th 2021
MLB talent disparity
Jun 11th 2021
This, plus MLB disparity in money for conferences and teams
Jun 11th 2021
      Their def needs to be uniformity across the conferences
Jun 11th 2021
I dont know shit abt baseball, so I'll defer to you on that comparison
Jun 11th 2021
: )
Jun 22nd 2021
I feel like six teams is the perfect number
Jun 11th 2021
I think 8 would’ve worked. Power 5 and 3 at large
Jun 11th 2021
      exactly where I'm at
Jun 17th 2021
It's awful and cfb is headed in a really bad direction
Jun 11th 2021
CFB has been heading in a bad directions for decades now
Jun 11th 2021
that's why i specifically wrote 'for a lot of reasons'
Jun 11th 2021
      No doubt and I was just expressing my thoughts and issues
Jun 11th 2021
I think 16 is max.
Jun 11th 2021
      and why is 8 or 12 better than 4?
Jun 11th 2021
           I want to see any hot team that is undefeated or has one loss
Jun 11th 2021
                RE: I want to see any hot team that is undefeated or has one loss
Jun 11th 2021
                     I think you may also see teams resting players down the stretch
Jun 11th 2021
                     teams already rest players
Jun 13th 2021
                          RE: teams already rest players
Jun 13th 2021
                     people are tired of hearing experts and power 5 fans tell us
Jun 13th 2021
                          you speak for the people now?
Jun 13th 2021
                               lmao.. yeah, I am the people
Jun 13th 2021
                                    LOL. this is corporate greed. nobody gives a fuck abt you or me.
Jun 13th 2021
                                         also 'the people'
Jun 13th 2021
                                         their sport? is it your sport?
Jun 13th 2021
                                              who's on third?
Jun 13th 2021
                                         Well, I think we all know how much they care about the players
Jun 13th 2021
                                              again the point is flying over your head
Jun 13th 2021
                                                   no, I just disagree with you
Jun 13th 2021
                                                        shit man this is your direct quote
Jun 13th 2021
                                                             why should I watch another sport
Jun 14th 2021
                                                                  jesus. arent YOU the one complaining about the existing model?
Jun 14th 2021
                                                                       You told me to stop watching
Jun 17th 2021
                                                                            no. I told you to watch other sports to enjoy their model.
Jun 17th 2021
spreading the money around
Jun 11th 2021
I had higher hopes. this seems lame.
Jun 11th 2021
I think you'll see more top level talent sit out
Jun 11th 2021
Not a fan. Keep it at 4 or 8 at max. No need to saturate the CFP.
Jun 12th 2021
I also thought the 6 team model made sense
Jun 12th 2021
On the actual expansion, 12 teams makes no sense at all
Jun 12th 2021
RE: On the actual expansion, 12 teams makes no sense at all
Jun 12th 2021
its not based on conferences tho
Jun 13th 2021
who gives a shit if your draft stock is solidified?
Jun 13th 2021
they can barely find a 4th worthy team most years.
Jun 13th 2021
my off the top list of bigger issues plaguing cfb
Jun 12th 2021
with so many issues why do you watch it?
Jun 14th 2021
      you interpret things in strange ways and it's kinda exhausting
Jun 14th 2021
           translation: you don’t agree with me and its exhausting…
Jun 17th 2021
                translation: you're illogical and annoying
Jun 17th 2021
                     Cincinnati lost 42-0 to OSU the PRIOR year? whooa nelly!!
Jun 18th 2021
                          right who cares about what happened in the last full season of cfb
Jun 18th 2021
                               what happened in 2019 had no bearing on the 2020 season.
Jun 18th 2021
                                    RE: what happened in 2019 had no bearing on the 2020 season.
Jun 18th 2021
                                         bowl games with no stakes involved huh?
Jun 22nd 2021
                                              RE: bowl games with no stakes involved huh?
Jun 22nd 2021
RIP College Football
Jun 13th 2021
Herm and ASU about to be in some shit
Jun 16th 2021
Let’s see what the NCAA actually does here
Jun 16th 2021
      NCAA doesn’t wanna get involved in sexual assault
Jun 17th 2021
           I agree on all of this and on a side note, you see this
Jun 17th 2021
                i think it was the ASU thing
Jun 18th 2021
eventually, a UCF or Boise type is gonna go to an SEC West school...
Jun 17th 2021
I think this could do wonders for college football
Jun 17th 2021
there we go he's finally got a backer
Jun 17th 2021
NFL development and competing for NC's are different things entirely
Jun 18th 2021
Bingo.. but I don’t think its really about recruiting or NFL talent
Jun 18th 2021
Very dumb. And Very predictable once the box was opened
Jun 22nd 2021
Not that anyone cares but Orgeron named in LSU sexual assault lawsuit
Jun 26th 2021
Not that anyone with the NCAA or LSU cares but Orgeron named in LSU sexu...
Jun 26th 2021
Nah it's everyone. Do cfb fans care? Does ESPN care?
Jun 26th 2021
feelgood 2019 all the way gone
Jun 26th 2021
UNC will never have to worry about playing 16 or 17 games
Jul 08th 2021
      wow doesn't this response undermine your entire argument? LOLLLLLLL
Jul 08th 2021
           If you lived in NC you would understand
Jul 09th 2021
#1 2021 recruit JT Tuimoloau picks OSU
Jul 08th 2021
Rose Bowl trying to hold onto that old ass 2PM kick off time
Jul 20th 2021
Rose bowl has been holding cfb hostage for the longest
Jul 20th 2021
Dabo and Clemson players not in favor of 12 team playoff format
Jul 20th 2021
Big 12 president says College Football Playoff expansion on ‘life supp...
Aug 27th 2021
why would they vote against it now?
Aug 27th 2021
      because college football is ran by GOP assholes
Aug 27th 2021
      I can see why the Hateful 8 would vote no, it’s all about leverage
Aug 27th 2021
      because theyve miraculously converted to pro-autobid
Aug 27th 2021

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