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62. "lol, this is so obviously true"
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>>Both Hayward and Rozier looking good on the Hornets now
>
>The Hayward and Rozier takes are VERY revisionist. EVERYONE
>clowned the Hayward deal, including myself, but I don’t
>think he’d be balling like this on a real contender and his
>presence takes minutes away from Brown and Tatum. Also it’s
>not a surprise to see him look good in year 1 of this deal,
>but come back to me in year 3 or 4 when they’re desperately
>trying to trade the guy. Again, it was Ainge’s job to
>replace his production. Stevens could create better rotations
>I suppose, but it’s difficult to invent that production out
>of thin air.
>
>I’ll always love and root for Terry, but it was basically a
>choice between keeping him or Smart and they made the right
>choice. I don’t think he’d be a good fit here long-term
>and he was awful last season. Him and LaMelo are gelling
>though and I’m really happy for him.

The only thing people could remotely criticize here is Ainge letting Hayward simply walk for nothing... but what was he to do last season? Trade him in a year where the Celtics had a real shot at a Finals run? That would've been a tough-ass call to make. But you can't re-sign Hayward for the type of money Charlotte offered, and you absolutely couldn't re-sign Rozier, who was really bad until this season Melo took over and made his life a lot simpler.

That said, this is also just part of the territory. Getting rid of guys who then ball elsewhere means lots of revisionist history.

But yeah, as you said, a lot of this is on Ainge. Tristan Thompson is a net negative player this year. Jeff Teague is a net negative player. None of the draft picks of the last three years have really popped in the sort of way this team needs (Robert Williams is the most intriguing, but he's behind Tristan in the rotation for some reason).

And, if we're being honest, they probably need to look to deal Kemba either this year or in the offseason and look for a real solution at PG before Brown and Tatum's deals expire in a few years, because Walker just isn't giving value for the money he's being paid. Shooting 36% from the field, sub-2 A:T ratio, negative BPM, especially on the defensive end-- he's just not gonna get it done against the Sixers, the Nets, the Bucks.

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2021 NBA Regular Season (2/14-2/20) [View all] , CyrenYoung, Sun Feb-14-21 06:04 PM
 
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So Scott Foster is the new Dick Bavetta....
Feb 14th 2021
1
Is OKC better without Shai???
Feb 14th 2021
2
RE: Is OKC better without Shai???
Feb 15th 2021
5
AD injury not looking good at all
Feb 14th 2021
3
If the Celtics could stop losing to bad teams, that would be great
Feb 14th 2021
4
I'm pretty happy with it, personally
Feb 16th 2021
23
Another night full of blowout games.
Feb 15th 2021
6
Denver took full advantage of the Lakers without AD...
Feb 15th 2021
7
Lou Williams shitted all over Sexland.
Feb 15th 2021
8
SAUCES! Cavs/Raptors discussing Drummond deal...
Feb 15th 2021
9
what deal?
Feb 15th 2021
10
RE: what deal?
Feb 15th 2021
11
RE: SAUCES! Cavs/Raptors discussing Drummond deal...
Feb 15th 2021
12
Where does Blake end up?
Feb 15th 2021
13
Rest AD until the playoffs. I don’t care.
Feb 15th 2021
14
That’s a no-brainer at this point
Feb 16th 2021
15
Without an acq to help out til then, do we make the playoffs w/o AD?
Feb 16th 2021
31
      Yes.
Feb 16th 2021
34
Thadjick
Feb 16th 2021
16
that was a good game
Feb 16th 2021
18
BEY SZN
Feb 16th 2021
17
As of today who y’all got in the Finals? I say Clippers-Nets
Feb 16th 2021
19
What? A lakers fan with an honest take?
Feb 16th 2021
20
lol at “not picking the Lakers” = “honest”
Feb 16th 2021
21
      Pressed
Feb 16th 2021
25
           You love my style. I get it
Feb 16th 2021
32
                Ultra Magnetic MCs Pressed.
Feb 17th 2021
50
LMAO apology accepted
Feb 17th 2021
49
Any chance we can snag Drummond?
Feb 16th 2021
22
Just can’t win with the top players you have...
Feb 16th 2021
26
You say some stupid things, but man
Feb 16th 2021
27
      You better get that man more HALP
Feb 16th 2021
28
           Which of the four guys you named is an all star
Feb 16th 2021
29
                Harrell won sixth man of the year
Feb 16th 2021
36
                     This is a joke, right? Just troll shit, right?
Feb 16th 2021
37
                          i don’t want hear that shit.
Feb 16th 2021
41
                               Again: You're joking right?
Feb 16th 2021
43
                                    Yes, let’s look look at the Jazz who play a small ass lineup.
Feb 16th 2021
44
not a Drummond fan, he gets ate up when he has to switch on the pick...
Feb 17th 2021
48
does any coach receive less blame for poor performance than
Feb 16th 2021
24
But but.. he’s so bright, so young, so innovative
Feb 16th 2021
30
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=White+America
Feb 16th 2021
33
The WHOLE Celtics squad is some shit.
Feb 16th 2021
38
Budenholzer, Carlisle, Walton, Donovan, Nurse, Stotts, basically every.....
Feb 16th 2021
39
Scotty Brooks too. $7M/yr for the league's worst defense
Feb 18th 2021
60
Keep in mind he let Hayward walk for nothing.
Feb 16th 2021
42
'Brad Stevens' was trending when the Celtics were catching a L
Feb 18th 2021
52
      Agreed. I think Stevens deserves SOME criticism
Feb 18th 2021
59
          
damn, Dre signed with Brooklyn....
Feb 16th 2021
35
Joker bout to drop 50.
Feb 16th 2021
40
Adam Lefkoe wife:
Feb 17th 2021
45
Suns gave that game away, CP3 trying to play hero ball froze out...
Feb 17th 2021
47
James Harden
Feb 17th 2021
46
Well, the game I always wanted to see: New Heat v. Warriors
Feb 18th 2021
51
Ben Simmons scored 42 points
Feb 18th 2021
53
Ben heard that slander.
Feb 18th 2021
54
Why would we trade Simmons?
Feb 18th 2021
57
Sixers shouldn't trade him for anything other than a franchise star.
Feb 18th 2021
63
Who told Josh Jackson he was a goon?
Feb 18th 2021
55
Until now, he'd only ever threatened to fight women.
Feb 18th 2021
64
      Right. My game is trash so I might as well try to be the tough guy
Feb 18th 2021
65
           Matt Barnes wannabe
Feb 18th 2021
68
didnt realize the warriors now have a better record than the nuggets.
Feb 18th 2021
56
I can see that happening.
Feb 18th 2021
58
Dame is this era's Zeke. He puts so much pressure on squads.
Feb 19th 2021
69
LOL @ sneak. Outside of Utah and two LAs, there isn't a team
Feb 18th 2021
61
Tired of watching shit offense by Milwaukee
Feb 18th 2021
66
I really dislike this Greek dude.
Feb 18th 2021
67
If Middleton ain't cooking, the Bucks are toast.
Feb 19th 2021
70
Bud fault.
Feb 19th 2021
71
AD re-evaluated: out 4 weeks
Feb 19th 2021
72
any time black people say theres no such thing as reverse racism
Feb 20th 2021
73
no.
Feb 20th 2021
74
That muphucka looked like the last Airbender on that dunk
Feb 20th 2021
76
Boogie and the Rockets to part ways...
Feb 20th 2021
75
and possibly Wall out too....which John Wall will be the last to know
Feb 20th 2021
77
Yeah, makes sense. They are in official rebuild mode.
Feb 20th 2021
79
Did Bron make a call?
Feb 20th 2021
80
NBA should be focking shot.
Feb 20th 2021
78
you have some serious problems...
Feb 21st 2021
81

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