after reading this i had to chuckle a little, it reads like the president is talking. only thing missing is a couple of "huge"s...

i'm not even feeling like debating this back and forth because treating bball like tennis just doesn't work for me.

let me just leave this here:
- no player ever did anything just by himself to win in this league.
- i know it completely doesn't fit your narrative, but maybe the cavs weren't that bad. and the warriors not that good. doesn't diminish lebron's greatness imo.
- also, the eastern conference.
- lebron calling himself the goat (something most of all the other all time greats don't do, including MJ btw), obviously wants more rings and is playing on a top contender. what else should the expectations be for him and this team??
- jordan was 40 and came back to the non contending wizards after being retired for the second time.
nice try tho.



>and you can see why he said it. He's had a first hand account
>of just how great James is - first seeing LeBron drag the Cavs
>(without Kyrie and Love) to 6 games w/ the Dubs - then a
>front-row seat to the 2017 Ring of all Rings which
>necessitated unprecedented stacking of talent just to beat
>LeBron.
>
>Kerr coached the most talented team in NBA history and still
>concedes that there's simply nothing like the force of LeBron
>James. Only way to take down that Lion is to swarm him with
>dozens of hyenas. No single player can match him pound for
>pound.
>
>>I do think that him in LA is almost "Wizards Jordan"
>>but I do get a lil geeked watching how geeked Lakers
>>announcers are calling his good plays. It just hits that
>>nostalgia button. That being said, he still is above so many
>>others 17 seasons in. I don't know how he does it.
>
>It's insane that it's championship or bust in his 17th year.
>That's a standard that no other player has been held to - but
>it's par for the course for LeBron to be held to the highest
>of standards. This ain't Wizards Jordan though - at least not
>yet. LeBron is legitimately in the MVP hunt. Jordan was never
>even close to that level as a Wizard.
>
>>2011 will be the darkest mark on his resume, and people will
>>have their "3-6" jokes but I've never seen ONE person take
>>teams to places they shouldn't more than LeBron has done it.
>
>
>It's definitely the lowest point of his career - but if almost
>averaging a triple double in the Finals is the lowest point of
>your career - that's pretty damn good. But even if the Heat
>had won that 'chip - his detractors would still find a way to
>discredit him - i.e. "LeLegacy saved by Wade!" or some
>nonsense.
>
>>It's like if Iverson continued to do that for a decade.
>>
>>(I still think "Iverson" is the real LeBron antecedent)
>
>not mad at that.
>
>
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