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" Can we talk about the blatant racism in NBA coaching hires?"


          

Let's start with Mike Brown:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/brownmi99c.html

In his first stint in Cleveland he went to playoffs every year, he took Lebron and some dudes from the club to the NBA Finals in his second year, won 60+ games his last 2 seasons and was fired and had to go work for ESPN.

A year later he was hired by the Lakers and went to playoffs in the lockout shortened season, the next season he was fired after 5 games due to a slow start when newly acquired Steve Nash was hurt, Dwight was recovering from back surgery and Kobe was playing with an injured foot and couldn't practice.

He had a second run in Cleveland with Kyrie and some bums and had his first losing season over 82 games and was fired again a year later.

He sat at home for 2 years until he was hired to be an assistant in Golden State. When Steve Kerr was out he led the Warriors to a 12-0 post season record but got zero credit for it. Luke Walton who Brown replaced went 39-4 in the regular season when Kerr was out and continues to get job after job because of that. Meanwhile Brown's name doesn't even come up for head coaching jobs any more even though he's only 49 and his .616 winning percentage is top 10 in NBA history for people that have coached more than 3 seasons.

Avery Johnson:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/johnsav01c.html

Won 60 games and went to the NBA Finals his first full season as head coach in Dallas, won 67 games the 2nd year but got upset in the first round because MVP Dirk bitched up. The following season won 51 games but lost in the first round to Byron Scott's Hornet's and was fired. He went to work for ESPN for 2 years and then took over a bad Nets team and was fired in his 3rd season with a .500 record just as they were starting to turn around. He went back to TV and ended coaching in college. Again his name doesn't even come up anymore for NBA head coaching jobs despite his .577 career winning percentage. The guy that replace him in Dallas Rick Carlisle won a title in his 3rd year but since had had 4 winning seasons in 8 years and has had a losing record the last 3 years but his job security isn't even in question.

Byron Scott:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/scottby01c.html

Took over a trash Nets franchise and had them in the NBA Finals in his 2nd and 3rd year. Was fired midway through the 4th season with a winning record. Took over a trash New Orleans franchise, had them in the playoffs his 4th & 5th seasons yet was fired 9 games into the 6th season. Took over a trash Cleveland team after Lebron left the first time and was fired after 3 seasons before he was able to turn them around...
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2013/04/cleveland_cavaliers_players_st.html
Took over a trash Laker team in Kobe's final 2 years while trying to develop younger players but was again fired before he was able to finish the job. He's now doing tv because he is not even on the NBA coaching radar...

Mark Jackson:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/jacksma01c.html

Took over a trash Warriors franchise and had them in the playoffs in years 2 and 3 and them was fired so Steve Kerr could reap the benefits of the players Mark Jackson developed. Now he's doing tv and barely gets a whiff for other NBA head coaching jobs despite a .526 winning percentage.





Meanwhile these trash ass white coaches lose and walk right into another head coaching job, they don't have to go back to being assistants or doing tv work...

I already talked about Rick Carlisle, 2011 was a long time ago...
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/carliri01c.html

Luke Walton:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/waltolu01c.html
Rode Steve Kerr's coattails off the player's Mark Jackson developed, didn't do shit in his first head coaching job with the Lakers, after they "agreed to part ways" he was promptly given another head coaching job in Sacramento despite a .398 winning percentage.

Mike D'Antoni:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/dantomi01c.html
Got his first head coaching job with Phoenix and had some success but couldn't get them past the conference finals so he left there and went to the Knicks where he was mostly trash but still given the Lakers head coaching job and he ran them into the ground. He was an assistant in Philly for a year then was given the Houston job and is still trying to get them to the Finals.

Mike Budenholzer
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/budenmi99c.html

A Greg Popovich disciple that had some early success with his first head coaching job in Atlanta but the wheels fell off quickly. Eventually he and the Hawks "agreed to part ways" because white coaches rarely get fired they just decide to leave. He was given the Bucks job and is reaping the benefits of players developed by Jason Kidd.

Brett Brown:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/brownbr99c.html

Another Pop disciple, had 4 terrible seasons in Philly during "the process" but some of the young players he had eventually developed and they had some success the last 2 years but his teams have looked shaky in the playoffs but the players need to figure it out because white coaches are never blamed for their teams struggles.

Scott Brooks:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/brooksc01c.html

Took over a bad OKC franchise that had some great draft picks and he eventually developed them into a contender than made it to the NBA Finals in his 4th year but failed to reach those same heights after that and was fired then CHOSE to sit out for a year:
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--scott-brooks-passing-on-interviews--likely-sitting-out-next-season-160503597.html

He was then given the Wizards job that continued to underachieve despite an All-Star back-court but the player's need to figure it out because it is never a white coach's fault.

Dave Joerger:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/joergda99c.html

Took over and Memphis team that had fired Lionel Hollins after a 56 win season and a trip to the conference finals. Joeger never got anywhere close to that and lost in the first round 2 out of 3 years. Was fired but was promptly given another head coaching job in Sacremento where despite some young talent he wasn't able to finish over .500 in 3 seasons and was fired again but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets another head coaching job next season.

Mike Malone:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/malonmi99c.html

He was trash in Sacremento and was fired and stepped right into the Denver job and has them doing well but he may be over-matched in the playoffs.

Nick Nurse
https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/nurseni01c.html

We'll see, somehow as an assistant under Dwane Casey, Nurse was credited with everything right with the Raptors while everything that went wrong with the Raptors was blamed on Casey who was fired. Nurse won 58 games, 1 less than the 59 Casey won in his last year we'll see how far they get in the playoffs with the addition of Kawhi Leonard.





These are just a few of the obvious examples, there are a lot more that have been more subtle...

  

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Can we talk about the blatant racism in NBA coaching hires? [View all] , ThaTruth, Tue Apr-16-19 03:07 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Anchor this shit forever
Apr 16th 2019
1
FACTS!!!
Apr 16th 2019
2
Love Mark Jackson. Avery, Byron, & Kidd were good. Mike Malone is good.
Apr 16th 2019
3
Basically
Apr 16th 2019
4
right...
Apr 16th 2019
5
I fucking hate Scott Brooks with a passion yo.
Apr 16th 2019
6
Man started a washed Kendrick Perkins
Apr 16th 2019
7
He's a terrible coach
Apr 17th 2019
8
He has done less with more than most coaches will ever get
Apr 17th 2019
10
Luke Walton is privilege personified
Apr 17th 2019
9
i was legit angry when he was hired a day after being fired.
Apr 17th 2019
11
      they fired DJ because Walton was going to become available.
Apr 18th 2019
46
Malone is most definitely not a trash ass coach
Apr 17th 2019
12
he had a losing record in Sacramento and walked right into another job.....
Apr 17th 2019
14
      He should’ve remained the Kings coach as well.
Apr 17th 2019
17
      why? because he was able to pacify Boogie?
Apr 17th 2019
18
           Cuz the team was trending in the right direction.
Apr 17th 2019
30
                Don't pester him with facts b/w Malone is not even the worst "support"
Apr 18th 2019
48
      Ok, still not a trash ass coach.
Apr 17th 2019
20
           he's won a grand total of 1 playoff game, chill
Apr 17th 2019
22
                #24
Apr 17th 2019
25
                     The point is Malone got fired with a losing record in Sacramento and got...
Apr 17th 2019
27
                     The point is he doesn't belong on your list as it was phrased.
Apr 17th 2019
28
                          okayplayer. n/m
Apr 17th 2019
29
                     im glad you peeped that lol
Apr 17th 2019
32
                          Please elaborate.
Apr 17th 2019
34
                          that's out of the OE playbook
Apr 18th 2019
52
Imagine labeling a guy as trash who has two 60-W seasons in 6 years
Apr 17th 2019
13
Imagine a dude with two 60 win seasons and a Finals appearance...
Apr 17th 2019
15
      I never said your other points aren't valid
Apr 17th 2019
16
           so what are you saying?
Apr 17th 2019
19
                omit Bud from your list of "trash ass coaches" immediately
Apr 17th 2019
21
                     Fuck him and you.
Apr 17th 2019
23
                     Umad
Apr 17th 2019
24
                          Very.
Apr 17th 2019
26
                     Budenholzer was GIVEN a playoff team in ATL that Larry Drew...
Apr 17th 2019
33
                          that is a bit revisionist or just ignoring a ton of drama in Atlanta
Apr 18th 2019
37
                               I said the wheels fell off, I didn’t say it was entirely his fault...
Apr 18th 2019
39
                                    Is there a recent CoY that has stayed unemployed?
Apr 18th 2019
40
                                         Yeah most of the dudes I named at the top of this post lol, that award.....
Apr 18th 2019
42
                                              Outside of Jackson, they all got jobs after they won it, too
Apr 18th 2019
43
                                                   post #39 n/m
Apr 18th 2019
44
                                                        huh?
Apr 18th 2019
51
You really can’t...
Apr 17th 2019
31
Quinn Snyder
Apr 18th 2019
35
I honestly don't have a problem with him, I feel like he does the most.....
Apr 18th 2019
36
So Quin's time with Mizzou has nothing to do with not getting Truth'd?
Apr 18th 2019
38
      I don’t care about that either way, he was slightly above average...
Apr 18th 2019
41
RE: Quinn Snyder ... is a very good coach
Apr 18th 2019
50
LOL D'Antoni, Budenholzer and Malone are on the trash list?
Apr 18th 2019
45
RE: LOL D'Antoni, Budenholzer and Malone are on the trash list?
Apr 18th 2019
47
      I read, I laughed, I got bored, I put on the new Paak record
Apr 18th 2019
49
its funny hearing announcers talk about what a 'great job' Nick Nurse...
May 08th 2019
53
While winning one fewer game and LeBron left for the western conference
May 08th 2019
54
      exactly.
May 08th 2019
55
There's enough actual racism in these hires that you don't need
May 08th 2019
56
“And another one...”(c)Christopher George Latore Wallace
Jun 11th 2019
57
How black coaches are still struggling to find their place in the NBA
Mar 03rd 2020
58
It’s comical that people are crying about Kenny Atkinson getting fired...
Mar 09th 2020
59
Preach! The one thing that hasn’t changed in last 20 years
Mar 09th 2020
61
Bulls are unsurprisingly the worst example of this
Mar 09th 2020
60
I’m also sick of all this crying about Becky Hammon and Pop picking...
Mar 10th 2020
62
this is a good post .
Mar 10th 2020
63
I guess we can add the Steve Nash hire to the list
Sep 03rd 2020
64
Budenholzer- say his name, and it’s even nice how Billy Donovan...
Sep 08th 2020
65
With Donovan available...
Sep 08th 2020
66
RE: With Donovan available...
Sep 08th 2020
67
      Yeah I saw that.
Sep 08th 2020
68
      yep...we bout to really be stripped down to the studs...
Sep 08th 2020
70
           Billy’s stock was never going to be higher than it is now, he needs to...
Sep 08th 2020
71
      Lotta jobs out there, he knows after PG the chances of getting a top...
Sep 08th 2020
69
Donovan slander ain't the way b/w Fok Budenholzer
Sep 09th 2020
72
pretty much spot on concerning Billy...
Sep 09th 2020
73
      they should fire him but they wont.
Sep 09th 2020
74
      RE: pretty much spot on concerning Billy...
Sep 09th 2020
75
      IMO, Bud gotta get $hit canned if they want to keep Giannis in MIL
Sep 09th 2020
76
The differences between Bud and Kidd
Sep 09th 2020
77
      #FACTS:
Sep 09th 2020
78
In an interview on TNT Nash basically said he just called Sean Marks....
Sep 10th 2020
79
https://media2.giphy.com/media/ZOj9qceYsE5A1YpxPM/200.gif
Sep 22nd 2020
81
      what does that mean?
Sep 22nd 2020
82
Donovan to the Bulls
Sep 22nd 2020
80

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