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Frank Longo
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35. "Actually, Hayward came back."
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>Your boy came back and the team got significantly worse. Not
>a good look.

Kyrie is still second out of the major Celtics players in On/Off numbers (Tatum the only player ahead of him). He also leads the team in BPM and VORP, so basically every metric suggests the team is better with him on the court. Even factoring in the fact that the Celtics won a good amount when Kyrie was out... the team performed better on the whole this year with Kyrie in.

Hayward has negative On/Off numbers for the year, and Jaylen Brown went from a +8.4 to a -2.4 On/Off this year. You can't blame that dip on Kyrie, because those are year-long numbers. Brown either was fluky good last season or has struggled to adjust to playing fewer minutes due to Hayward's return. Or both. (Brown also has the worst BPM and VORP of any notable Celtic this year.) So... yeah.

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All NBA teams - who you got? [View all] , DJR, Tue Mar-26-19 04:59 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Booker over Beal. That’s about it.
Mar 26th 2019
1
im curious if anyone else thinks this
Mar 27th 2019
5
are you new here?
Mar 27th 2019
6
For real?
Mar 27th 2019
7
      26-5-5
Mar 27th 2019
8
           You mentioned defense in your “thesis” Lmao?
Mar 27th 2019
12
                alright I regret saying create
Mar 27th 2019
13
                     You said create though.
Mar 27th 2019
14
                          he's the leader of a last place team in the west.
Mar 28th 2019
26
                               And Brad Beal is the leader of...
Mar 28th 2019
28
nah, and i like booker much more than beal
Mar 27th 2019
19
you nailed it.
Mar 26th 2019
2
I put Kawhi first team but I see an argument all over for him
Mar 27th 2019
18
      agreed.
Mar 28th 2019
29
My picks..
Mar 26th 2019
3
Embiid over Jokic or we riot
Mar 27th 2019
4
Embiid will get it too. Dat charisma
Mar 27th 2019
9
as he should
Mar 27th 2019
11
I thought Center was the most debatable
Mar 27th 2019
15
      I love Jokic, too, but there isn't much of a debate
Mar 27th 2019
17
           He doesn’t necessarily do everything he does on the offensive end.
Mar 27th 2019
20
                Absolutely not. Embiid also wins less.
Mar 27th 2019
21
                     Also... a true statement
Mar 27th 2019
22
                     of the top 4 teams in both conferences
Mar 27th 2019
23
                     Lmao @ “he wouldn’t start on Philly”
Mar 27th 2019
24
                          RE: Lmao @ “he wouldn’t start on Philly”
Mar 28th 2019
25
                               christ.
Mar 28th 2019
27
                               I can dig that. Especially when you consider individual talents.
Mar 28th 2019
32
                               He'd be their fifth starter though, big drop from his role in Denver
Mar 28th 2019
31
                     I buy the more with less argument, sure, but ...
Mar 28th 2019
30
I'm good with your list.
Mar 27th 2019
10
Steph/Harden/Giannis/Kawhi/Embiid first team
Mar 27th 2019
16
thanks for proving yet again that i'm not the problem.
Mar 30th 2019
33
LOL
Mar 30th 2019
34
My dude, can this be about PERFORMANCE, please!?!?
Mar 30th 2019
36
you that aggy over a damn 3rd team snub?
Mar 30th 2019
37
Yes, I am aggy.
Mar 30th 2019
38
His team is trash, dogg.
Mar 31st 2019
39
I’m supposed to believe 13 games over 500 is trash
Mar 31st 2019
40
      Why lie about Houston?
Mar 31st 2019
42
           Yeah, why lie about Houston? They’re the 3rd seed.
Mar 31st 2019
44
                Didn’t you just say you don’t think Kyrie will make it either?
Mar 31st 2019
45
Kyrie's teammates don't like him personally either.
Mar 31st 2019
41
Like who?
Mar 31st 2019
43
      The ones who didn't go to Duke.
Mar 31st 2019
49
ehh.
Mar 31st 2019
46
protest vote? yeah, i don't need to come back to this thread
Mar 31st 2019
47
      is what it is, nigga. be mad.
Mar 31st 2019
48
I was wrong. Congrats to Kyrie on his second team selection
May 23rd 2019
50

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