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21. "Let's put this Kevin Love "role" in perspective, shall we?"
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This is a guy who's put up 16 and 9 both seasons in Cleveland, while also making over 100 three-pointers each season.

Let's look at the list of players who have done that-- *ever.*

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&birth_state=&college_id=&draft_year=&is_active=&debut_yr_nba_start=&debut_yr_nba_end=&debut_yr_aba_start=&debut_yr_aba_end=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&award=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=fg3&c1comp=gt&c1val=100&c2stat=trb_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=9&c3stat=pts_per_g&c3comp=gt&c3val=16&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws

Dirk three times.
Shawn Marion twice.
Antawn Jamison twice.
Toine once.

And Love four times. Two of those seasons with Cleveland.

If you change those numbers to reflect shooters that are hitting at an impressive 35%+ clip from distance, that list shrinks further... but Love's Cleveland seasons remain.

Having a guy who spreads the floor that efficiently *and* rebounds that efficiently is a massive commodity.

And I'm the guy who said they never should've traded Wiggins! I'm far from a Kevin Love fanboy. But it's reeeeeeeeally hard to deny that the dude has legitimate value, especially on a team constructed the way the Cavs are. And there's really no way to easily replace what he brings to the team if you deal him away.

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How can the Cavs improve? Shump, Love, JR, TT Boi and more.... [View all] , Basaglia, Mon Jun-20-16 09:27 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Things I'd love to see:
Jun 20th 2016
1
Shump ceiling might be 3 and d
Jun 20th 2016
3
I'm not convinced I see it.
Jun 20th 2016
4
      i don't 'see' it either per se lolol
Jun 21st 2016
19
           It's definitely what his role needs to be.
Jun 21st 2016
23
                only way he lives up to that contract is if the cap explodes to 120milli...
Jun 21st 2016
30
The Cavs are over the cap; they won't be getting Deng/Baze
Jun 21st 2016
5
      It's a bad idea. You can get two solid role players and keep him
Jun 21st 2016
10
      Eh, if you think you can sign someone like Pau for the MLE
Jun 21st 2016
14
      Bledsoe injured, TJ is trash and 13th? Ugh.
Jun 21st 2016
16
      Love still did nearly a double-double this year.
Jun 21st 2016
17
           I'm a bigger Bledsoe fan than you guys but...
Jun 21st 2016
26
                I've never been a big Love fan either, but...
Jun 21st 2016
27
                Bledsoe is empty-stat chemistry-killing trash
Jun 21st 2016
35
      RE: It's a bad idea. You can get two solid role players and keep him
Jun 21st 2016
15
           Then you look at vets and/or underachieving young talent.
Jun 21st 2016
18
                RE: Then you look at vets and/or underachieving young talent.
Jun 21st 2016
20
                    
                          RE: Let's put this Kevin Love "role" in perspective, shall we?
Jun 21st 2016
28
                               This is patently false.
Jun 21st 2016
31
                                    RE: This is patently false.
Jun 21st 2016
36
      Lol... Why would anybody trade Bledsoe for Love straight up?
Jun 21st 2016
37
improved Bron shooting
Jun 20th 2016
2
that's the only thing LeBron needs IMO
Jun 21st 2016
6
I dunno if lebron can become a better shooter
Jun 21st 2016
7
      Why can't he become a better shooter?
Jun 21st 2016
8
           because he hasn't yet
Jun 21st 2016
9
           when did jason kidd get his?
Jun 21st 2016
12
                jason kidd is an outlier
Jun 21st 2016
22
                     A *huge* outlier.
Jun 21st 2016
24
                          Isn't this basically what Lebron did in Miami too?
Jun 21st 2016
25
                               which is my argument in my first reply
Jun 21st 2016
32
           I voiced that in the Game 3 or 4 thread...
Jun 21st 2016
11
                i think the biggest reason he hasn't is simply bc he does it 'need'
Jun 21st 2016
13
                     yup
Jun 21st 2016
33
                     was supposed to say other forwards not pfs specifically
Jun 21st 2016
34
sign-and-trade Durant for Love... make it happen GM Bron!
Jun 21st 2016
29

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