Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend
Lobby Okay Sports topic #2542760

Subject: "SI.com preview:" Previous topic | Next topic
dula dibiasi
Member since Apr 05th 2004
21925 posts
Thu Jun-02-16 05:43 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
42. "SI.com preview:"
In response to In response to 0


  

          

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/02/warriors-cavaliers-nba-finals-playoffs-stephen-curry-lebron-james-klay-thompson

Matchups that will define the NBA Finals

No matchup is an island, entire of itself. Assigning any one basketball player to guard another has rippling implications for everything that happens on the floor. Game plans are formulated based on how the defense lines up and where it might be exploited. Actions are warped based on which players are involved on both sides of the ball. The work of a defensive stopper comes built-in with the opportunity cost of every alternative; assuming any specific responsibility foregoes another, making even the smallest lineup decisions an act of compromise. Basketball might not be a terribly complicated game, but it is complex in the way that all constantly evolving systems tend to be.

Keep this in mind when wading into this year’s NBA Finals, a bout between two flexible teams with all kinds of options available to them. Both the Warriors and the Cavs will have the burden of stopping a near-unstoppable offense. How they’ll go about doing so begins with a basic lineup structure which informs offensive feedback and then triggers defensive adjustment. Let’s start with the basics:

• Golden State’s lineup balance

By the end of the 2015 Finals, Golden State had bounced Andrew Bogut from the rotation entirely and come to entrust Draymond Green as their default center. It was small ball that unlocked the series; Cleveland’s frontcourt, undercut by Kevin Love’s season-ending shoulder injury, didn't have the means to run with the Warriors or defend them in space. Kyrie Irving’s absence further compromised the rotation to the point that it couldn’t really adjust once Golden State broke loose.

The dynamic refreshes with Love and Irving’s return, the addition of Channing Frye, and Cleveland’s newfound love of three-point bombing. Attacking and defending the Cavs now demands a different formula; starting Green at center simply doesn’t offer the same jolt that it did when Timofey Mozgov was his positional counterpart, left to plod his way through awkward cross-matches. Starting Bogut makes sense now in a way it didn’t then. Tristan Thompson is the closest thing Cleveland has to a traditional center in its rotation, which gives Bogut his best chance to play a role in this series by offering an anchor to the paint. Deny him that opportunity and he’ll be pulled out of his game to guard the likes of Frye or Love at the three-point line.
Getting even limited minutes from a traditional center could do wonders in preserving Green for each game’s most critical stretches. Keep in mind: Even in last year’s small-ball dominated Finals, the Warriors played with one of their three centers (Bogut, Festus Ezeli, or Marreese Speights) on the floor for more than half the series. Bogut deserves a chance to see what he can offer as a starter and the Warriors, who just outlasted the Thunder in a series by spreading out their minutes and being the fresher team at the end of games, could use his rim protection opposite LeBron James. Of course, in doing so, Golden State would help to accommodate…

• Kevin Love, in search of shelter

The last thing Cleveland should want is Love pulled out, 25 feet from the basket, to either hedge or switch on to Stephen Curry in the pick-and-roll. Love’s solid defense this postseason hasn’t gone unnoticed. That particular job, however, is beyond him—demanding better communication, quicker feet, and more productive instincts than he could reasonably claim. Golden State will go out of its way to put Love to the test at every opportunity. There’s nowhere to hide completely, though certain matchups offer Love more cover than others.

Bogut is among the most preferable. At this stage in his career, Bogut is both rangeless and fairly slow—qualities that render him significantly less dangerous in pick-and-roll or dribble hand-off situations than, say, Green. Any Bogut screen would allow Love to focus on guard attainment for a few beats with relatively little risk; a smart, well-coordinated defense can generally handle Bogut’s rumbles down the lane without compromising too much elsewhere on the floor.

Even if he doesn't take on Bogut, Love is best off avoiding a direct matchup with Green at all costs. It’s not just the shooting; the pick-and-roll chemistry between Curry and Green allows them to toggle angles and re-screen to string out defenders, all with a healthy flexibility in terms of space and angle. The wider breadth of options available to a pick-and-roll duo, the greater the potential for bigs like Love to get lost in the shuffle. Even Harrison Barnes would be a better starting matchup for Love, if not…

• Andre Iguodala, potential starter

The Warriors didn’t throw many deliberate double-teams at James in the 2015 Finals, but they applied pressure in their own way. Iguodala, one of the best denial defenders in the league, made LeBron work for every catch and then held his ground after claiming sound defensive position. The rest of Golden State’s defenders took a step inward and extended their arms—showing James a wall to the weak side that simultaneously shrank the court and deterred long passes. One of the most dominant players in the league was reduced, in part by his team’s injuries, to iso-post inefficiency.

James won’t be used in quite the same way now that Irving and Love are healthy again, though Iguodala remains Golden State’s top choice for contesting his post-ups and drives. Considering that Iguodala’s minutes will largely be tethered to LeBron’s, it would make sense for the Warriors to kick around the possibility of starting him at small forward—just as they did against Kevin Durant in Game 7 of the Western Conference finals. Barnes, who doesn’t move quite well enough to keep up with James, would be out of his depth in the opening minutes. Even Green didn’t fare well in the one-on-one matchup last time around, proof positive that LeBron can work over many of the best, most versatile defenders in the league.
Iguodala remains a rare exception. It’s possible that Kerr might bring him off the bench to start the series as a way to artificially depress his minutes. Otherwise it can be difficult to get Iguodala out of the game at all, particularly when his primary assignment is a high-usage creator who can turn a game in a matter of minutes. That danger is real, though it exists in equal measure at the beginning of every game and in any instance when Iguodala isn’t on the floor to fend off LeBron’s drives. Starting Iguodala might be the easiest way to maximize the alignment of their rotations, while also moving Barnes to the bench to help handle…

• The Kevin Love-Channing Frye space odyssey

Never is Cleveland’s offense more fluid than when both of its bigs can stretch the floor. LeBron has buckled defenses throughout his career by making crisp passes from inside a swarm of opponents. Irving is so valuable because he can slice through consecutive layers of defense to finish at the basket. Remove those degrees of difficulty and the Cavs max out their scoring potential. Open space is rarely more than a pass away—facilitated by Frye’s knockdown shooting and Love’s pick-and-pop game.

Golden State will need to be mindful of these lineups in the same way that opponents must batten down the hatches when Green slides over to center. In limited minutes throughout these playoffs, Cleveland has scored 121.7 points per 100 possessions with Love and Frye on the floor together, per NBA.com—a significant improvement on what was already the best offense of the postseason on balance. Their pairing leaves Bogut with no one to guard, Speights in way over his head, and Anderson Varejao out of his comfort zone. Ezeli might at least be able to scurry between contesting Frye and maintaining his other defensive responsibilities, though the best antidote is the most obvious one: Green and Barnes as the Warriors’ functional, flexible bigs.

Their footspeed alone would be a big help in the scramble of containing drives while minding shooters at every other position. Both Green and Barnes are quite switchable, too, which can negate the value of floor-spacing bigs if an offense takes too long to initiate or doesn’t execute its counters. Most important: Playing Barnes and Green opposite Love and Frye forces Cleveland’s bigs into the same fundamental binds. Whether they survive them will depend in part on…

• Who LeBron James defends

Cleveland’s best all-around defender is also its most important offensive player. That’s the kind of luxury a team has to couch in long-game thinking; asking too much of LeBron over the full term of a playoff series risks wearing him down, possession by possession, until compromising much of what makes him so good. A fresh, physical James could be more than the Warriors can handle. A sapped, overextended James wouldn’t have access to the level of command the Cavs desperately need.

As such, James might be best off assuming a lesser defensive role—like guarding Iguodala or Barnes—for as long as possible. Churning in the background, however, is the distinct possibility that Cleveland’s rotation might not allow it. J.R. Smith will walk a fine line in taking on Klay Thompson. Kyrie Irving will pick up Curry to start, though we’ll see Iman Shumpert and Matthew Dellavedova share in that responsibility at times. Tristan Thompson will likely be tabbed to guard Green by process of elimination, though his minutes will be fairly modest.

Each of those matchups presents problems—some slightly concerning, others clearly alarming. James, in moderate doses, is the way to quiet them. Cleveland has no better option for defending Green when Thompson is off the floor, and perhaps no better option for defending Green (and, by extension, his pick-and-roll partners) period. James has no business burning energy trailing Thompson all around the floor if Smith comes up short, though Shumpert might be able to handle that assignment if James can check Curry in spots. There’s a lot to untangle in deciding how to make best use of James’s defense without demanding too much, most of which is rooted in…

• Cleveland’s defense against Curry

Irving is in line for the biggest challenge of his basketball career: a ringer of pick-and-rolls and pin-downs that has effectively neutralized some of the best defensive players and systems in the league. His knack for suboptimal positioning will be attacked, as will his chemistry with a number of defensive partners. Should the Cavs start switching in an effort to stall the Warriors’ execution, then Irving will be all that stands between players like Green, Barnes, and Thompson as they work the post. Otherwise, he’ll have be tasked with restricting Curry through any means possible and spending his most in a constant, desperate state of recovery.

The only evidence that suggests he might be up for the challenge is part of one game in last year’s Finals. Otherwise, most of the precedent on film points to this matchup being a problem—especially if the Warriors are able to knot up Irving and Love directly via two-man actions. Rarely are those two on the same page, which often either forces an additional rotation from elsewhere on the floor or yields an immediate opening. With Curry involved, there now exists the possibility that he might pull up for a three-pointer without really driving into the defense at all, should Irving and his pick-and-roll partner botch their defensive exchange.
Any kind of above-and-beyond defensive performance from Irving would go a long way in settling Cleveland’s playing rotation. Otherwise, Tyronn Lue might have to toy around with leaning hard on Shumpert (a better Curry foil, but not a perfect one) at the expense of his offense, playing Dellavedova (who isn’t as much a match for Curry as the narrative of the 2015 Finals would have you believe) more alongside Irving, or throwing LeBron into the mix for as many minutes as he can handle. None of these solutions is especially elegant, but this particular matchup leaves the Cavs in a pinch. Even the best, most aggressive defense possible from this group would still leave Curry the opportunity to cut backdoor—all without Mozgov around protect the basket. Irving might just have to make do, while using his positional alignment to attack…

• Klay Thompson, crossed in transition

Kerr never really committed to one primary defender against Irving in the regular season matchups between these two teams, though Thompson is decidedly the best direct choice among those available. Few perimeter defenders in the league do a better job of angling a ball handler in the direction of the help before continuing in pursuit; point guards, in particular, can feel Thompson right on their heels even after they turn the corner, and tend to rush shots or dribble into trouble because of it. Irving would be a handful in his own right, but Thompson is up to the challenge of hanging with his deceptive dribble and recovering to contest Irving’s mid-range jumpers.

The real trick will be if Thompson, should he get the job of defending Irving full-time, can fully make his way back into position when Cleveland transitions quickly into its offense. At the moment the Cavs collect a defensive rebound, Irving—who will essentially never defend Thompson in this series—might be on the opposite side of the court with a significant head start on the break. It’s then that the Warriors will need to pick up as they can and survive a possession at relative disadvantage, even if the action slows to attack their potential mismatches.

Golden State will have some options in those scenarios and is better equipped to scramble in transition than most. What they might not have is time; if Irving and James are running the ball aggressively, even a frantic point or call to a teammate might not come soon enough. It’s there that these kinds of cross-matches can fall flat. Whatever advantage there is to be gained by having Thompson defend Irving in half-court situations has to be protected in the chaos of a transition free-for-all. Even an isolated, dedicated matchup like this one can only succeed with the help of Thompson’s teammates.

___

it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote


NBA FINALS Game 1: Enter the Draygoon [View all] , Deebot, Thu Jun-02-16 12:07 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Warriors in 5.
Jun 02nd 2016
1
same
Jun 02nd 2016
2
only if the Cavs get 3 happy & let GS run and gun...
Jun 02nd 2016
6
      because the league figured out how to stop GS run & gun...
Jun 02nd 2016
7
           OKC slowed them down quit a bit
Jun 02nd 2016
12
                OKC's key was their rebounding advantage
Jun 02nd 2016
19
                     they'll need a steady diet of love-frye lineups to keep it close.
Jun 02nd 2016
22
                     Completely agreed. My immediate thought on the matchup was:
Jun 02nd 2016
26
                     yeah, it's like every solution creates another problem.
Jun 02nd 2016
36
                          also, the problems for Delly & Shump is they're plus players on D
Jun 02nd 2016
37
                               man, them dudes are going to have to play a LOT
Jun 02nd 2016
38
                                    which means CLE is going to consistent have lineups
Jun 02nd 2016
47
                     Agreed. I expect as many minutes of that as possible.
Jun 02nd 2016
28
                     yeah if i'm t-lue i'm going with frye-love + just biting the bullet on D
Jun 02nd 2016
40
                     have you even seen Mozgov this season??...
Jun 02nd 2016
29
                     yep, their size was a huge advantage (rebs, blks, def)
Jun 02nd 2016
30
I'll say 6 only bc lebron should be able to will em to 2 games like last...
Jun 02nd 2016
9
yep. i honestly cant fathom a winning cavs scenario
Jun 02nd 2016
15
      neither can i.
Jun 02nd 2016
16
      theres only one way Frye or Love make a difference ...
Jun 02nd 2016
17
      their best lineups play right into the Dubs hands
Jun 02nd 2016
46
Fuck Draymond Green in the Goat Ass.
Jun 02nd 2016
3
Well, it oughta be a good series.
Jun 02nd 2016
4
hope everything turns out ok with the fam...sounds like the vacation'll
Jun 02nd 2016
10
enjoy the vacay, brother.
Jun 02nd 2016
20
      Thanks to both of y'all. And the cats who reached out via inbox
Jun 02nd 2016
24
Is this what you've been waiting for?.. You ready??
Jun 02nd 2016
5
hoping for a great series without any injuries
Jun 02nd 2016
8
i think niggas bout to realize they never actually wanted this.
Jun 02nd 2016
11
lmao great avi
Jun 02nd 2016
18
      yeah that shit's been cracking me up since he changed it lolz
Jun 02nd 2016
23
           Nance Jr was taking great joy in getting rid of dude
Jun 02nd 2016
25
           Clarkson's is the one that kills me.
Jun 02nd 2016
41
           It's like film version of HBK kicking Janetti through the window
Jun 02nd 2016
27
                WHAT AN ACT OF COWARDICE!!!! (c)Heenan
Jun 02nd 2016
32
CLE in 6
Jun 02nd 2016
13
dubs in 5.
Jun 02nd 2016
14
Cavs in 6. I'll be here for the post BelieveLand plea cops
Jun 02nd 2016
21
GSW in 4
Jun 02nd 2016
31
c'mon, lol
Jun 02nd 2016
33
it could happen.
Jun 02nd 2016
34
Wouldn't be terribly surprised if it went 7, honestly.
Jun 02nd 2016
35
Yella Gawd
Jun 02nd 2016
39
I dno't know who is winning it all but I know it's going 7.
Jun 02nd 2016
43
For all those saying OAK going to blow away CAVS yall smokin.
Jun 02nd 2016
44
      Oh, and TRISTAN is about to EAT!!!! Watch and see.
Jun 02nd 2016
45
      no, it was you who was smoking.
Jun 03rd 2016
187
CAVS IN 3! (c) Vex
Jun 02nd 2016
48
love zero excuses...this what u been waiting for
Jun 02nd 2016
49
Don't care who wins, I just want it to be as good as the WCF
Jun 02nd 2016
50
BOTH TEAMS PLAYED HARD
Jun 02nd 2016
51
redbones in 7. #teamlightskin
Jun 02nd 2016
52
per Marcus Thompson twitter: Barnes starting. Iggy coming off the bench
Jun 02nd 2016
53
Van Gundy on the call. I'm good
Jun 02nd 2016
54
the "flag was still there" part is sung way too overdramatic nowadays.
Jun 02nd 2016
55
Go head Tariq!!!
Jun 02nd 2016
56
I want to see MC Hammer sittin courtside
Jun 02nd 2016
57
damn near tore that nigga acl, mcl, and pcl.
Jun 02nd 2016
58
Did Steph just....
Jun 02nd 2016
59
Jab stepped his ass to the ground
Jun 02nd 2016
60
tristan thompson move like he rocking lugz.
Jun 02nd 2016
61
Love runs like Peyton Manning
Jun 02nd 2016
62
those drive and kick outs might have worked in Canada
Jun 02nd 2016
63
Slight late pass, but Cleveland in 6
Jun 02nd 2016
64
irony: Kevin Love is defending well
Jun 02nd 2016
65
two deflections on Steph so far... not bad at all
Jun 02nd 2016
66
Lol @ Bron yelling at love when his ass didn't know what the shot clock
Jun 02nd 2016
67
this some good basketball.
Jun 02nd 2016
68
whew warriors bench rolling
Jun 02nd 2016
69
RE: whew warriors bench rolling
Jun 02nd 2016
70
when the bench is rolling like this... forget it guyz
Jun 02nd 2016
71
fuckin Garbosa.
Jun 02nd 2016
72
Kyrie hero ball mode ignited
Jun 02nd 2016
73
damn iggy!
Jun 02nd 2016
74
iggy hands are fucking stupid man
Jun 02nd 2016
75
some of the best hands i've EVER seen
Jun 02nd 2016
77
Cavs dont have the defense to stop GSW
Jun 02nd 2016
76
NO JINX + the cavs are down but this pace favors CLE
Jun 02nd 2016
78
the Warriors bench are the ones killing them
Jun 02nd 2016
79
yup... Steph/Klay = 10 points
Jun 02nd 2016
81
RE: the Warriors bench are the ones killing them
Jun 02nd 2016
86
iggy's hands are 2nd only to Ron Ron, that I've seen
Jun 02nd 2016
80
Flop
Jun 02nd 2016
82
lol @ Varejao with that damn flop
Jun 02nd 2016
83
yeah I can't condone that shit ... despicable
Jun 02nd 2016
84
you risk that extending the arm tho.
Jun 02nd 2016
85
Iggy: He hit me in my DICK man!!!!
Jun 02nd 2016
98
soccer countries
Jun 03rd 2016
205
Draygoon on that LonelyPlanet
Jun 02nd 2016
87
splash bros need to wake tf up lol.
Jun 02nd 2016
88
Steph playin too much.
Jun 02nd 2016
89
i love kyries game around the rim mayne.
Jun 02nd 2016
90
KERR ANGRY. KERR SMASH
Jun 02nd 2016
91
draygoon hit bron with the karl malone knee. salute.
Jun 02nd 2016
92
NBA ref reliance on flailing is reaching critical mass
Jun 02nd 2016
93
That was a HELL of a play to get Love the and 1
Jun 02nd 2016
94
So the Cavs can play defense?
Jun 02nd 2016
95
damn...Kev here for this
Jun 02nd 2016
96
this nigga delly wap cant help but to hurt ppl lol.
Jun 02nd 2016
97
but he's just so scrappy!
Jun 02nd 2016
99
nut punch
Jun 02nd 2016
100
Flagarant 2: Delly will be suspended for G2
Jun 02nd 2016
101
Or do you give Double Tech for Iggy reacting to nut punched?
Jun 02nd 2016
107
Iggy: He hit me in my DICK man!!!!
Jun 02nd 2016
102
Deli starting the series off with a nut punch!
Jun 02nd 2016
103
Delly is such a scrubby little hacker
Jun 02nd 2016
104
DON'T TAKE THAT SHIT DELLY
Jun 02nd 2016
105
hahaha
Jun 02nd 2016
106
Man.. Play the fuck on. Come on!!
Jun 02nd 2016
108
JVG and Marc Jackson bs'in...you have to consider context here
Jun 02nd 2016
109
shit, they should give Iggy an award for constraint.
Jun 02nd 2016
113
lol c'mon no he wasn't reaching for no damn ball lolol
Jun 03rd 2016
209
steph shleep
Jun 02nd 2016
Lebron aint even on the floor and whining about some calls
Jun 02nd 2016
110
Iggy is MVP of Game 1....so far
Jun 02nd 2016
111
Someone's gonna have to die before a foul on the boards is called lol
Jun 02nd 2016
112
about time for klay & play to start emptying them clips.
Jun 02nd 2016
114
Klay been sitting for a while... he should be ready to light fire
Jun 02nd 2016
115
      them cats might as well rest up and take the night off lol.
Jun 02nd 2016
126
bench putting up starter stats.
Jun 02nd 2016
116
Barbacoa came to play today
Jun 02nd 2016
117
surprised no one is mentioning Rie's 5-18 shooting
Jun 02nd 2016
118
Captain Barbosa don't care if the Cavs asked for parlay
Jun 02nd 2016
119
livingston just does not give a fuck man. that jumper is purdy
Jun 02nd 2016
120
i don't think I've seen it blocked all season
Jun 02nd 2016
122
^^^^
Jun 02nd 2016
123
NEEEEEESSSSTY (c) Cortez
Jun 02nd 2016
132
Smartest player on the court. Incredible awareness on both ends
Jun 02nd 2016
133
wonder how many mpg Bron will need to log all series
Jun 02nd 2016
121
breh need 48 a game.
Jun 02nd 2016
130
How Sway?
Jun 02nd 2016
124
*ahem*
Jun 02nd 2016
125
and steph/klay haven't even woken up yet. god.
Jun 02nd 2016
127
What a TEAM. Everyone contributing
Jun 02nd 2016
128
So happy for Livingston
Jun 02nd 2016
129
wonder how many mpg Bron will need to log all series
Jun 02nd 2016
131
the most absolute shit rotations.
Jun 02nd 2016
134
cavs got propped up against bad competition.
Jun 02nd 2016
137
      horse shit.
Jun 02nd 2016
143
      cavs played a college schedule to get to the finals fam.
Jun 02nd 2016
150
      man yall just arent that good. feasting on the d-league aint shit.
Jun 02nd 2016
159
      every team the Cavs played was better than the Houston Rockets
Jun 02nd 2016
171
           they're the fucking 8 seed.
Jun 02nd 2016
175
           sure were.
Jun 03rd 2016
183
           don't go out like this Doc
Jun 03rd 2016
186
                ey, Jam - don't get cussed out now.
Jun 03rd 2016
194
      o rly?
Jun 03rd 2016
210
      remember when cats said it looked like they were figuring it out as a te...
Jun 03rd 2016
242
           haha sev talking bout maybe they are on a run where they would run
Jun 03rd 2016
244
cavs look overmatched against their BENCH.
Jun 02nd 2016
135
we should keep a tracker on how many times Kyrie falls asleep on D
Jun 02nd 2016
136
seems like hes been scored on every possession this quarter
Jun 02nd 2016
139
nope...cavs gon be better this time....WATCH!!
Jun 03rd 2016
211
Klay came back in and IMMEDIATELY disrupted flow and almost TO
Jun 02nd 2016
138
Yeah this shit getting the broom
Jun 02nd 2016
140
Oh well
Jun 02nd 2016
141
Nice pass by Steph
Jun 02nd 2016
142
It's interesting
Jun 02nd 2016
144
Why would you EVER sit a man with Hot Hand? Dont care if he 2nd
Jun 02nd 2016
145
exactly.. no way S Dot should have sat
Jun 02nd 2016
146
Livingston and Barbosa should have stayed out there
Jun 03rd 2016
190
man, I want to care more about this series than I do...
Jun 02nd 2016
147
Draymond's transition decision making has been so poor
Jun 02nd 2016
148
Get Curry and Klay outta there
Jun 02nd 2016
149
.. Not yet but best believe if Steph starts flexing...
Jun 02nd 2016
151
...
Jun 02nd 2016
152
Nevermind
Jun 02nd 2016
      Why did you edit?
Jun 02nd 2016
173
lol. KlayQuil's first shot in forever.
Jun 02nd 2016
153
splashbros frontrunning now lmfao.
Jun 02nd 2016
154
they doing like the USA did Cuba/Castro
Jun 02nd 2016
155
I never thought I'd see the 90s Bulls again.
Jun 02nd 2016
156
Dirty Dahntay coming in to hurt somebody. Get Splash bros out
Jun 02nd 2016
157
Hell, Delly already giving reacharounds.
Jun 02nd 2016
158
Great timeout by Kerr. Get the starters out, don't risk anything
Jun 02nd 2016
160
shit, Cleveland had already pulled thier stars
Jun 03rd 2016
191
*ahem* cough *cough*
Jun 02nd 2016
161
Gotta go up stronger...they contest everything.
Jun 02nd 2016
162
they also gotta stop putting either Bron or Ky with no other shooting
Jun 02nd 2016
166
      they stopped playing hard when they took that lead
Jun 02nd 2016
168
      K-Love doesn't have enough help
Jun 02nd 2016
178
klay & play basically got paid on their day off.
Jun 02nd 2016
163
LIVINGSTON gets the Doris post-game!!!!! klaycurry in the showers
Jun 02nd 2016
164
WARRIORS IN 3.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 02nd 2016
165
Cavs are too healthy...
Jun 02nd 2016
167
Goddammit.....lol
Jun 02nd 2016
169
lol
Jun 03rd 2016
212
Lol
Jun 03rd 2016
220
Lol I couldn't think of a better excuse
Jun 03rd 2016
264
LMAO!..
Jun 03rd 2016
222
also, fwiw, i see a few Cavs pleas already starting in here.
Jun 02nd 2016
170
lebron got too much help
Jun 03rd 2016
228
      Lol too many ppl to pass to
Jun 03rd 2016
273
https://twitter.com/notcleveland/status/738577150597419009
Jun 02nd 2016
172
Huge steal by draymond there at the end
Jun 02nd 2016
174
it was game over after that steal. incredible play by him
Jun 02nd 2016
182
Make Kyrie the 6th man, bring in Frye, Bron at PG
Jun 02nd 2016
176
Fuego Take: this series is not going six games...
Jun 02nd 2016
177
Don't try to reverse jinx this. It's going a full seven.
Jun 02nd 2016
180
      It can't go seven for one simple reason.
Jun 02nd 2016
181
Varsity >>>> JV
Jun 02nd 2016
179
the NBA has to fix the east
Jun 03rd 2016
188
      it's honestly like they're just playing a lesser form of the sport in th...
Jun 03rd 2016
206
      Some of them stars in the west gotta realize they gotta go east.
Jun 03rd 2016
213
      lol. so if Kevin Durant goes to Boston and they STILL lose
Jun 03rd 2016
223
      Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiime is on my siiiiiiide, yes it is!
Jun 03rd 2016
247
When you use your bench to beat up on a team in Game 1
Jun 03rd 2016
184
* COUGH * LOOK OVER HERE (C) BRICK TAMLAND
Jun 03rd 2016
185
final thought: remember when the narrative was K-Love...
Jun 03rd 2016
189
can't say I've noticed that narrative being around
Jun 03rd 2016
195
      that's the flip side of the narrative.
Jun 03rd 2016
232
Tyronn Lue looks like one of the players' sons in his church suit
Jun 03rd 2016
192
Cavs shot terribly
Jun 03rd 2016
193
pretty much
Jun 03rd 2016
196
So did Steph and Klay
Jun 03rd 2016
197
Exactly
Jun 03rd 2016
199
they can try to spin it but nothing about how that game
Jun 03rd 2016
201
Additionally, Steph and Klay got good looks (for them)
Jun 03rd 2016
224
even if they shoot the lights out they can't defend GS...
Jun 03rd 2016
198
they shot poorly because the Warriors D was in their hip pocket.
Jun 03rd 2016
233
So what adjustments should the Cavs make for game 2?
Jun 03rd 2016
200
sign durant/Russ.
Jun 03rd 2016
202
Bron has to go straight Russ..and force GS to stop him.
Jun 03rd 2016
204
i see LeCramps on the horizon if he tries that.
Jun 03rd 2016
207
yeah he drove like 3 for 4 times in the 1st qtr...easy layupss.
Jun 03rd 2016
214
kyrie or, more likely, Love needs to ride with the bench mob
Jun 03rd 2016
230
Find some way to stop Shaun Livingston
Jun 03rd 2016
219
      lol, if this is on the agenda, RIP Cavs
Jun 03rd 2016
268
Yall made these same claims after SA/OKC Game 1...Slow Down!
Jun 03rd 2016
203
lol @ an intentional foul into the nuts not being a fragrant foul
Jun 03rd 2016
208
Fragrant? Delladova is sprayed cologne on his nuts?
Jun 03rd 2016
215
lol
Jun 03rd 2016
217
at least the NBA is being consistent
Jun 03rd 2016
221
Kyrie is a problem on both ends
Jun 03rd 2016
216
Kyrie is still too much Above the Rim footage & not enough basketball
Jun 03rd 2016
218
      RE: Kyrie is still too much Above the Rim footage & not enough basketbal...
Jun 03rd 2016
225
           Lillard is a wacker version of Kyrie imo
Jun 03rd 2016
226
                RE: Lillard is a wacker version of Kyrie imo
Jun 03rd 2016
229
                I can't debate any of those things. I'm speaking skillset.
Jun 03rd 2016
234
                     RE: I can't debate any of those things. I'm speaking skillset.
Jun 03rd 2016
249
                Strictly off the eye test, and with no research
Jun 03rd 2016
231
                I'd say Kyrie is a better shooter & finisher.
Jun 03rd 2016
235
                RE: I'd say Kyrie is a better shooter & finisher.
Jun 03rd 2016
266
                     I don't think Kyrie has the type of vision.
Jun 03rd 2016
267
                          This could be semantics
Jun 03rd 2016
276
                               No, I don't think he physically sees those plays.
Jun 03rd 2016
277
                Lillard is a STREAKY shooter & better at making contested 3s
Jun 03rd 2016
245
                     Right.
Jun 03rd 2016
265
                cmon
Jun 03rd 2016
241
                hmm right today I'll take Kyrie
Jun 03rd 2016
246
should be interesting to see how the narrative shifts during this series...
Jun 03rd 2016
227
Everyone acting like a blowout happened
Jun 03rd 2016
236
Dubs led pretty much wire to wire except for a little run in the 3rd qtr
Jun 03rd 2016
237
I don't even think those people thought that.
Jun 03rd 2016
240
      I always thought Game 2 would be the Cavs best shot to steal a game
Jun 03rd 2016
254
it wasnt close tho. warriors kept them comfortably at arms length
Jun 03rd 2016
238
also, it's not even the margin of victory...
Jun 03rd 2016
239
      And not that. Cavs varsity got beat by Dubs Jr Varsity squad
Jun 03rd 2016
243
      Im not a Cavs fan
Jun 03rd 2016
248
           klay certainly gets his when he doesn't show up. Curry missed multiple
Jun 03rd 2016
251
                i think the Cavs did a good job of defending them.
Jun 03rd 2016
253
                     yeah, they got a bunch of shots they usually hit and missed so i'll give
Jun 03rd 2016
255
                     right. it's almost worse that they did a good job on Steph/Klay.
Jun 03rd 2016
257
                          its a trade off... Iggy and Livingston are much better defenders
Jun 03rd 2016
260
                               Iggy's swipe steals w/out fouling really put a mark on the game.
Jun 03rd 2016
262
                                    and props to the refs for recognizing the clean swipes and not bailing e...
Jun 03rd 2016
263
                     Curry isnt being held, they are switching like crazy
Jun 03rd 2016
258
                          sure he is.
Jun 03rd 2016
259
                          nah they doing a lot of bumpy/bumpy -grabby/grabby every time he
Jun 03rd 2016
261
This was Cavs' chance to steal one on the road. 5 games, maybe sweep
Jun 03rd 2016
250
yup cavs had to feel dejected as hell this morning
Jun 03rd 2016
252
prolly a little pissed but they now realize they have to account for tha...
Jun 03rd 2016
256
      Frye played 7 minutes, Mozgov played 2 minutes
Jun 03rd 2016
281
yeah mayne cavs had to have this one.
Jun 03rd 2016
271
Barbosa, S Dot, Iggy, Barnes,Green lineup played 1 min together all seas...
Jun 03rd 2016
269
that minute was against the cavs and they were +22
Jun 03rd 2016
270
jedi master kerr with that godly rote.
Jun 03rd 2016
272
      secret death lineup
Jun 03rd 2016
274
      chess not checkers
Jun 03rd 2016
275
LeQuil?
Jun 03rd 2016
278
this is how a great shooter contributes even when he's off:
Jun 03rd 2016
279
LOL. i love that.
Jun 03rd 2016
280
Lol jr gon jr
Jun 03rd 2016
283
nobody pays me any attn
Jun 03rd 2016
282

Lobby Okay Sports topic #2542760 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.25
Copyright © DCScripts.com