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>You are wrong on many fronts, but I will just say Cutler will >not be cut. His contract proves he will not be cut. STOP.
I think he will be cut. They are trying to trade him and getting no takers. I could be wrong but that is where I am leaning. Teams have taken cap hits to get rid of guys before, it wouldn't be the first time.
The >only way Cutler is gone is through a trade (even with the >contract the Emery gave Cutler it will be very hard for the >Bears to trade him.) The Bears could have cut Marshall, which >would have only saved them 4 mil. By trading him they save 4 >mil. and get a 5th round pick. The Bears now have 32 mil. in >cap space available. Six Mil. of that 32 is slotted for the >rookie class. > >For those wanting Cutler cut: that would destroy the #Bears >cap flexibility. Best you can hope for is a trade. Cutting him >would be dumb.
I agree it would be dumb but so was trading Marshall for a 5th and switching to a 3-4 when the team already has a ton of issues and bad personnel for said 3-4.
I believe the best coaches mold their systems to the talents of their best players.
Others may believe differently, but I think my position is as defensible as any.
> >https://twitter.com/LaurenceWHolmes/status/573884990511017984 > > >With as many problems as the Bears have on both sides of the >ball, do you think next season if the Bears kept Marshall >while Cutler is still the QB they are contending for a title? >
A title? Next year? No, but that doesn't mean that instead we should be gunning to be the worst team in the league.
>It's obvious you have not been paying attention to Pace and >Fox have been saying so far.
Oh but I have. We just may disagree in what we think of their thoughts and how we interpret their actions.
> >Pace: "We’ll be aggressive in our approach, but for the >Bears, to have sustained success, we must build through the >draft,” Pace said. “The recipe to winning Super Bowls is >stringing successful drafts together again and again. We are >not just collecting athletes, we are acquiring football >players that fit the Chicago Bears. There will be a major >emphasis on character, toughness, instincts and >intelligence.” > >http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/26/durkin-bears-were-among-nfl-combine-winners/ > >Pace: “Those teams (Green Bay and Detroit) have a done a >successful job of building their teams through the draft,” >Pace said. “So that’s where we got to get to. We got to >build our team strong through the draft to have sustained >success. Honestly, I respect what Green Bay’s done. I >respect what Ted Thompson’s done. I respect what Detroit’s >done. They built through the draft, and they are sustaining >success because of that.”
Of course you need to draft well. The Bears have drafted terribly for a long time. That said, drafting well need not be in OPPOSITION to retaining your top tier talent and/or getting value in return.
Green Bay has been building their 3-4 through the draft for, hmm, five years...and their defense is still widely acknowledged as the team's achilles heel. If the Bears win that NFCCG (which was totally plausible), who knows if Ted Thompson still has a job. Look at Green Bay's draft picks since that Super Bowl, they have whiffed defensively over and over.
Without Aaron Rodgers, who knows what their team would be.
Again, they are much better run than Bears but holding them up as the be-all, end-all doesn't quite work for me. We don't have Aaron Rodgers.
> >http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/01/09/durkin-ryan-pace-is-empowered-to-enact-his-vision-for-bears/ > >^^^Sustained Success. > >Pace told everyone from the very beginning what he wanted to >do. Horrible drafting going back for the past decade is what >put the Bears in this position. For example, horrible drafting >is how Cade McNown, Rex Grossman, Chris Williams, Shea >McClellin, and Marc Colombo ended up becoming Bears. The only >way to deal with bad drafting is trade for better players >(Cutler, Marshall) or by Drafting Better. By making those >trades for Cutler and Marshall they gave up multiple draft >picks, which then hamstrings them by not being able to draft. >The Free Agent market is another way to deal with bad >drafting. The thing about Free Agency is, typically, good >teams don't let the good/great players make it to free agency. >They sign the player before he can become a FA. Being a >good/great team with "sustained success" is a great way to >convince players to stay (along with boat loads of money).
Okay...nothing to really disagree with their except the premise that good players don't hit free agency. Perhaps you mean, like Julius Peppers last year? Who the much-lauded Ted Thompson picked up and is now retaining. While we jettisoned him to add Jared Allen who sucked.
> >Marshall's 3-yr. extention is only guaranteed through this >upcoming season (2015-2016). Cutler's contract is only >guaranteed for the next two seasons (2015-2017). That means >both those guys would not be on this team when they are truly >competitive with "sustained success". They are both on the >wrong side of 30 that is not the ideal to keep them around for >the "sustained success".
Good luck achieving this sustained success with a roster that has been absolutely gutted, in advance of a scheme change on both sides of the ball.
> >I'm not saying Marshall is a horrible player. The Bears could >very well end up being burned by this move, but I think we as >fans should allow Pace and Fox some room to operate. Pace and >Fox don't deserve 100% absolute faith from the fans >(skepticism should be applied) but give it some time.
Everything they have done so far has been pretty bad IMO. I said it was a bad move when we dumped Lovie and Urlacher and I was right (I think so anyway). I said the same shit about Emery and Trestman's moves this past offseason and I was right.
If I am wrong, as always, I will own it. But right now they are making moves I think are stupid. Who the fuck needs a 5th rounder? When was the last time the Bears did anything worthwhile with a 5th rounder?
> >During his time with the #Bears, Brandon Marshall was 4th in >NFL in catches, 4th in TD catches, 5th in 100-yard games & 9th >in rec. yards. > >https://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/573879423398707200 > >In 3 years in Chicago, Brandon Marshall is tied for 5th in >#Bears history in receiving TDs, 8th in receptions and 11th in >receiving yards. > >https://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/573879734179905537 > > >Please stop with the hyperbole by trying to say that trading >Marshall puts Pace and Fox on the Emery and Trestman level. >That really devalues your points.
This combined with the move to a 3-4 and putting Cutler and Forte on the block does put them on that level IMO. They are creating NEW holes on a team with plenty of them that are perenially unfilled.
You don't win in football by trying to become the worst team in the league. This isn't the NBA. Does anyone feel like the Jets are better off after bottoming out under Idzik last year? How about the Jags and Raiders?
Of all the people to get rid of on this team, MArshall makes the least sense.
Now we have a situation where we might end up drafting a WR or a 3-4 edge rusher (positions where we may have been fine if not for these moves) in the first two rounds while our giant glaring holes that are there year-in and year-out (offensive line, safety, interior linebacker, receiver depth, cornerback depth) go unaddressed.
I can't even remember the last time the Bears fielded a great offensive line anymore. It's been that fucking long. I'm not going to be surprised at all when we trot out the same stiffs as last year and then wonder why the offense keeps stalling.
I have football reasons for my opinions. You may disagree but I am not just pulling this out of my ass or some fandom of Brandon Marshall.
Starting over from scratch every 2-3 years is not the way to go IMO.
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