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You are wrong on many fronts, but I will just say Cutler will not be cut. His contract proves he will not be cut. STOP. The only way Cutler is gone is through a trade (even with the contract the Emery gave Cutler it will be very hard for the Bears to trade him.) The Bears could have cut Marshall, which would have only saved them 4 mil. By trading him they save 4 mil. and get a 5th round pick. The Bears now have 32 mil. in cap space available. Six Mil. of that 32 is slotted for the rookie class.

For those wanting Cutler cut: that would destroy the #Bears cap flexibility. Best you can hope for is a trade. Cutting him would be dumb.

https://twitter.com/LaurenceWHolmes/status/573884990511017984


With as many problems as the Bears have on both sides of the ball, do you think next season if the Bears kept Marshall while Cutler is still the QB they are contending for a title?

It's obvious you have not been paying attention to Pace and Fox have been saying so far.

Pace: "We’ll be aggressive in our approach, but for the Bears, to have sustained success, we must build through the draft,” Pace said. “The recipe to winning Super Bowls is stringing successful drafts together again and again. We are not just collecting athletes, we are acquiring football players that fit the Chicago Bears. There will be a major emphasis on character, toughness, instincts and intelligence.”

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/26/durkin-bears-were-among-nfl-combine-winners/

Pace: “Those teams (Green Bay and Detroit) have a done a successful job of building their teams through the draft,” Pace said. “So that’s where we got to get to. We got to build our team strong through the draft to have sustained success. Honestly, I respect what Green Bay’s done. I respect what Ted Thompson’s done. I respect what Detroit’s done. They built through the draft, and they are sustaining success because of that.”

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/01/09/durkin-ryan-pace-is-empowered-to-enact-his-vision-for-bears/

^^^Sustained Success.

Pace told everyone from the very beginning what he wanted to do. Horrible drafting going back for the past decade is what put the Bears in this position. For example, horrible drafting is how Cade McNown, Rex Grossman, Chris Williams, Shea McClellin, and Marc Colombo ended up becoming Bears. The only way to deal with bad drafting is trade for better players (Cutler, Marshall) or by Drafting Better. By making those trades for Cutler and Marshall they gave up multiple draft picks, which then hamstrings them by not being able to draft. The Free Agent market is another way to deal with bad drafting. The thing about Free Agency is, typically, good teams don't let the good/great players make it to free agency. They sign the player before he can become a FA. Being a good/great team with "sustained success" is a great way to convince players to stay (along with boat loads of money).

Marshall's 3-yr. extention is only guaranteed through this upcoming season (2015-2016). Cutler's contract is only guaranteed for the next two seasons (2015-2017). That means both those guys would not be on this team when they are truly competitive with "sustained success". They are both on the wrong side of 30 that is not the ideal to keep them around for the "sustained success".

I'm not saying Marshall is a horrible player. The Bears could very well end up being burned by this move, but I think we as fans should allow Pace and Fox some room to operate. Pace and Fox don't deserve 100% absolute faith from the fans (skepticism should be applied) but give it some time.

During his time with the #Bears, Brandon Marshall was 4th in NFL in catches, 4th in TD catches, 5th in 100-yard games & 9th in rec. yards.

https://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/573879423398707200

In 3 years in Chicago, Brandon Marshall is tied for 5th in #Bears history in receiving TDs, 8th in receptions and 11th in receiving yards.

https://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/573879734179905537


Please stop with the hyperbole by trying to say that trading Marshall puts Pace and Fox on the Emery and Trestman level. That really devalues your points.

  

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