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172. "bottom line: we reached our ceiling with Jackson "
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Wed May-07-14 08:55 AM by Amritsar

  

          

goodbye iso after iso play calling, stupid hockey-style lineup changes and blown 4th qtr leads as a result.

I appreciate what he did to help change the culture of defense, but his role in that is entirely overstated imo. We have Klay (maybe the best 2 way guard in the league), Draymond, Iggy and Bogut -- all guys who bring a ton defensively regardless what a coach does.


this feels sorta like when Mike SIngletary was let go by the Niners


a talented underachieving squad in need of a qualified coach to take them farther into the playoffs


now we just need to go out and find our Harbaugh

  

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Is Mark Jackson an asshole or what? [View all] , BrooklynWHAT, Sun May-04-14 01:41 AM
 
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there's a difference between front office politics and asshole
May 04th 2014
1
Furious George Karl could do a much better job w/ the squad
May 04th 2014
2
FOH
May 04th 2014
7
      That shyt is overblown...his teams just overachive in the reg season
May 04th 2014
9
Mama there goes that man?
May 04th 2014
3
LOL
May 09th 2014
258
Hell yes, that fake preacher has been an asshole for decades
May 04th 2014
4
Dude, I don't like the fake preacher stuff, but it works for this team
May 04th 2014
6
      this team has talent, let's not pretend they've overachieved
May 04th 2014
8
           LMAO...they HAVE overachieved
May 04th 2014
13
                they lost in the first round, my dude
May 04th 2014
21
                     You have doo doo cheese on your lip again, breh
May 05th 2014
76
He doesn't play well with others in the front office
May 04th 2014
5
LMAOOO @ y'all BLAMING Mark Jackson
May 04th 2014
10
base.
May 04th 2014
11
Clippers are 30,000 times better and deeper than GSW
May 04th 2014
12
      exactly. they tryna give him that Dungy treatment.
May 04th 2014
17
      If he were a better coach, they wouldn't have fallen to the 6 seed
May 04th 2014
18
      LMAO...so you saying they are better than Portland or Houston!?!?!
May 04th 2014
26
      As talented as Houston. More talented than Portland/San Antonio
May 04th 2014
29
          
May 04th 2014
31
           lmao ok.
May 04th 2014
33
           Archive
May 04th 2014
39
           This and post 10 have really upped the stupidity ante
May 04th 2014
45
           wow
May 04th 2014
58
           WTF? The 2nd best player on GSW would be 4th best on Houston at best
May 04th 2014
70
           So wait, both Klay and Lee are worse than Parsons and Beverly?
May 05th 2014
73
           GTFOH
May 08th 2014
247
           Well whaddya know....
May 24th 2015
275
      most of these seedings came down to the last week.
May 04th 2014
30
      Clippers finally got a great coach, so now they're a legit contender
May 04th 2014
40
      wrong post
May 04th 2014
55
Nobody GState fan in here is blaming and saying fire mark
May 04th 2014
16
I'm mad
May 04th 2014
20
lol cmon
May 04th 2014
22
am i reading this correctly?
May 04th 2014
24
LOL
May 04th 2014
44
Is Woj an asshole? He's the one keeping this meme alive.
May 04th 2014
14
wojo is definitely an asshole
May 04th 2014
19
One question: Is Mark the one who opted to rely on Andrew Bogut?
May 04th 2014
15
he was at least part of pushing Monta out, so yea kinda
May 04th 2014
23
this tells you everything right here:
May 04th 2014
25
C'mon man, they knew what they were gettng when the hired him
May 04th 2014
32
      the problem with the asst thing is hes seemingly clashed
May 04th 2014
37
      He gets along with Hunter. And spoke well enough of Erman
May 04th 2014
56
      Jackson kinda balked last off-season on an experienced asst.
May 04th 2014
41
Jackson has done a solid job with that team..
May 04th 2014
27
that would be fine and dandy
May 04th 2014
28
He's under contract next year, Bogut's expired = $20mil under the
May 04th 2014
34
Bogut's got 3 more years
May 04th 2014
42
      You're right, my bad. Fire the GM in that case!
May 04th 2014
49
           Bogut was great for the Warriors this season
May 04th 2014
60
                Bogut's expiring >>> 3 years @ $14mil for 7 and 10, IMO
May 05th 2014
74
51 wins can turn into 31 (c) Jermaine O'Neal
May 04th 2014
35
giving examples of MEM and DEN, are those ringing endorsements
May 04th 2014
36
Memphis didn't do worse
May 04th 2014
38
      Explain to me how this year wasn't worse for MEM than last year
May 04th 2014
50
           gasol injury covers first 2 and I explained the playoffs
May 04th 2014
52
                right? a clock can't keep time with a missing cog
May 08th 2014
233
And JO will be the first one to quit on that team
May 07th 2014
191
bleacher gossip report
May 04th 2014
43
They don't need a new coach, they need to make trades...
May 04th 2014
46
how they paying him that salary next year?
May 04th 2014
47
Lee for Asik
May 04th 2014
48
Ye gods, no.
May 04th 2014
57
He's Christian. Owner = Jewish. Pres = Gay
May 04th 2014
51
This post just keeps on giving...
May 04th 2014
53
lol
May 06th 2014
138
grabs calculator, prepares presentation for Sloan
May 04th 2014
54
Lmao
May 07th 2014
192
Inside sources report...
May 04th 2014
61
Maybe David Geffen can buy the majority share of the team
May 04th 2014
62
      Don lemon and Anderson cooper beat reporters
May 04th 2014
63
Those damn gays and Jews, keeping good Christian men down
May 04th 2014
64
Can one of y'all La-li-lu-le-lo OKPs do the quick math on this?
May 04th 2014
65
Their General Counsel is a Muslim. Wonder if he's in on it...
May 05th 2014
72
I love this place
May 05th 2014
75
And just so we're clear....
May 05th 2014
79
      tolerant Christian coaches + Muslim players are to blame too?
May 08th 2014
243
Man, there's a lot of dumb in this post
May 04th 2014
59
There really is.
May 04th 2014
68
Probably. But it was a bad situation.
May 04th 2014
66
The problem is he did pick his own assistants
May 04th 2014
69
      What's The Difference Between What Jackson and Kidd Did?
May 04th 2014
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           Wait......what?
May 05th 2014
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           uh, Dem Specs ain't firing Kidd in year one, that was his call
May 08th 2014
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                Well, The Comparison Being
May 08th 2014
240
yeah yeah yeah who can the Warriors get to replace him?
May 04th 2014
67
So I've heard Kerr and Scalabrine
May 05th 2014
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PHIL JACKSON, GET ON THE PHONE.
May 05th 2014
78
Woj on it:
May 06th 2014
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Might as well get it over with as soon as possible
May 06th 2014
82
just the Knicks luck...
May 06th 2014
83
he was perfect in 2008. im still mad at that.
May 06th 2014
88
      he was... I wanted the Nets to hire him when they hired Avery J
May 06th 2014
109
Larry Bird should actually holler...
May 06th 2014
84
FIRED.
May 06th 2014
85
what IN the fuck is going on here exactly?
May 06th 2014
86
      Politics? Assholeness?
May 06th 2014
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      Blackness. n/m
May 06th 2014
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      He lost the owners and the GM
May 06th 2014
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      When you're black. n/m
May 06th 2014
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           or Rick Carlisle
May 06th 2014
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                Or Scott Skiles in Phoenix.
May 07th 2014
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                     Skiles got multiple chances, was a terrible coach
May 07th 2014
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                          You don't think Jackson will get another chance?
May 07th 2014
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                               Of course he will
May 07th 2014
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      religion. paranoia. hubris. insane shit.
May 06th 2014
90
      Blackness n/m
May 06th 2014
107
      dude apparently damaged his relationships w ownership, mgmt + assts
May 06th 2014
99
           Remember Cito Gaston?
May 06th 2014
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                no doubt.
May 06th 2014
110
                     Obama in office, I'd be coaching with a dashiki on
May 06th 2014
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                          lol @ dat 'shiki
May 06th 2014
112
Welp, it's official. Warriors put it on their website
May 06th 2014
91
how you gon disrespect woody like that?
May 06th 2014
92
How's his preacher act?
May 06th 2014
94
      holy trinity:
May 06th 2014
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           Ooh, Mark Jackson resurrected, but with less hair.
May 06th 2014
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http://oi59.tinypic.com/2cn2vb.jpg
May 06th 2014
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Shoot me in the fucking head
May 06th 2014
95
lmao. I almost did the same thing. lacob aint that nuts.
May 06th 2014
97
old ownwership: move players. new ownership: move coaches
May 06th 2014
98
      Also: move team
May 06th 2014
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           yeah & they did move it back an extra year from 2017 to 2018
May 06th 2014
125
Sorry, I can't root for success of the Warriors franchise any longer
May 06th 2014
102
LOL, this probably doesn't even crack the top 10 of dumb things
May 06th 2014
106
      or it could simply be the final straw...
May 06th 2014
114
           This isn't even the biggest groan-inducing situation involving...
May 06th 2014
117
Where will they find a coach that is as big a douchebag as their players...
May 06th 2014
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Watch somebody like Pringles get this gig
May 06th 2014
113
I see dude....
May 06th 2014
115
he's a great next coach for all 3, but I like least for indy
May 06th 2014
128
ARE YOU PEOPLE ENTERTAINED YET?!?
May 06th 2014
116
And Mchale still has a job
May 06th 2014
118
: - ) Hi Shawn
May 06th 2014
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What if they hire Kareem?
May 06th 2014
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Man, they won't even hire Rick Barry
May 06th 2014
121
      I could see Jerry Sloan coaching them
May 06th 2014
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           That would be a bad idea
May 06th 2014
127
was the planned walk-off at the outset of Game 5 the last straw?
May 06th 2014
123
Bob Ryan is going in on Mark Jackson on LeBatard's show
May 06th 2014
124
White people are not particularly fond of black people.
May 06th 2014
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RE: White people are not particularly fond of black people.
May 06th 2014
145
yes its very stupid. gs beats the clips with a starting caliber post def...
May 06th 2014
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      A healthy Bogut likely would have done it.
May 06th 2014
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           designing a last play is also something both Brooks and McHale failed to...
May 06th 2014
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           You'll get no argument from me about those guys
May 06th 2014
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           they woulda lost with Bogut too, the only reason the series went 7
May 06th 2014
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                I don't believe that for a second. Either of those statements
May 07th 2014
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                     and Jordan wouldn't have had total freedom to do whatever
May 07th 2014
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                     I like Bogut but if he's stopping DJ he ain't stopping Blake too
May 08th 2014
230
                          But see, that's the point: he only need to stop one
May 08th 2014
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                     Bogut couldn't guard both their bigs & they clearly mailed in Game 4
May 08th 2014
229
Wolves
May 06th 2014
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lakers better stay away
May 06th 2014
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why? If players play hard for him I don't see the issue.
May 06th 2014
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The next coach will face the same problems
May 06th 2014
132
Ric Bucher said all the blame for the team is on management and the owne...
May 06th 2014
133
I feel like Iggy lived up to it in the playoffs except game 2
May 06th 2014
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White people are not big fans of the black race
May 07th 2014
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tough break....I think with Bogut they would have beat the
May 06th 2014
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Don't agree with it but he didn't play the game
May 06th 2014
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Weird how we only blame black guys for this
May 06th 2014
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      everything is speculation and always will be
May 06th 2014
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      pretty much george karl last year
May 06th 2014
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      he also lost in the 1st round though
May 06th 2014
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      Karl was there for 8 or 9 years.
May 07th 2014
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           Not to mention on the asshole scale he's not in the same discussion
May 07th 2014
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      Wrong...Denver was the HIGHER seed + Karl traded Carmelo
May 06th 2014
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           Iggy was their best player & they didn't have Gallo in the post-season
May 06th 2014
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                I'll take cheese with those pleas. Karl traded 'Melo, failed
May 07th 2014
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                     Melo forced a trade. . .what is going on here? Like fantasy land
May 07th 2014
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      Rick Carlisle has been fired a couple times for being difficult to
May 07th 2014
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           "White people think like children on matters of race." (c) Basaglia
May 07th 2014
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                .
May 08th 2014
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new owner is a micro manager
May 06th 2014
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CISM in 2014 isn't simple
May 06th 2014
149
Watch them hire D'antoni
May 06th 2014
151
they could win 50 games & lose in the playoffs with D'Antoni too n/m
May 06th 2014
153
What the hell are they going to do w/ Bogut in a D'Antoni system?
May 06th 2014
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he'll have an exciting team to watch in streetclothes n/m
May 06th 2014
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See post #95
May 07th 2014
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So Kerr, Pringles and Dunleavy are the front-runners?
May 07th 2014
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Bwahahaahahahah @ the WHITE RACE
May 07th 2014
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      Dunleavy and Pringles, jesus christ white people
May 07th 2014
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           I mean, at least TRY to hide racism doggie...shit is blatant now
May 07th 2014
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Golden State is probably the best situation for Kerr
May 07th 2014
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Bwahahahahaahahhahaha
May 07th 2014
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you said GSW's lineup is more flawed than Minnesotas dude
May 07th 2014
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      You said Mark Jackson = Mike Singletary, you Klan member/Uncle Tom
May 07th 2014
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           dude there's a whole LOLtrain directed at you
May 08th 2014
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Dawg, this is no "Harbaugh" out there
May 07th 2014
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      Jackson is literally the opposite of Singletary. He's actually like Harb...
May 07th 2014
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      On Top Of That
May 07th 2014
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      Exactly, glad you brought that up n/m
May 07th 2014
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      he's exactly like Harbaugh!
May 08th 2014
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      LOL@ Mark Jackson hype revision history
May 07th 2014
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      Exactly
May 07th 2014
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      Are you responding to anything I said? Or just talking.
May 07th 2014
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      what are you talking about? Jackson was getting a TON of interest
May 08th 2014
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      there's gotta be someone out there we're not considering
May 08th 2014
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Can we get a list of coaches that don't rely on iso's down the stretch?
May 07th 2014
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Carlisle + Stotts run stuff, their star is involved in action at least
May 07th 2014
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Dirk is the best shooting 7 footer in the history of basketball.
May 07th 2014
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^^ could use a martini ^^
May 07th 2014
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      Anything to help me understand the white race's disdain 4 blacks
May 07th 2014
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           Have you tried exploring Rush's catalogue yet?
May 07th 2014
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           Nah, Rush isn't as big a problem as the hipsters.
May 07th 2014
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           OE... people having double standards don't necessarily
May 07th 2014
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                I retired from a long career as a white people eye-opener
May 08th 2014
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Well i'm talking end of game situations. And pick and roll/pop
May 07th 2014
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      NOOOPE!!! Dirk shooting over the galaxy = WHITE coach strategery
May 07th 2014
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      well I thought MJ's knock was going iso too often in midgame sets
May 07th 2014
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           man please, as a knick fan who say way too many mj isos
May 07th 2014
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                defensive rules were different in Jordan's era, that kinda O is now exti...
May 07th 2014
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                     defensive rules actually make iso offense easier now.
May 07th 2014
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                     LMAOO. HAND CHECKING was legal in Jordan's days, EINSTEIN
May 07th 2014
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                          lol yeah, he's making a point that i'm not even trying to make
May 07th 2014
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                          http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/ANn6k.gif
May 07th 2014
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                          "illegal defense" also resulted in technical FTs
May 07th 2014
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                               there is still "illegal defense" its called def 3 seconds
May 07th 2014
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                                    a 1v1 D-scheme was literally codified by the league
May 07th 2014
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                                         Dog, for isolation defense, hand-checking is THE #1 killer
May 07th 2014
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                                              regardless of how well or poorly jordan would handle diff. defenses
May 07th 2014
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                                                   Bwahahahahahahaha "regardless" *MUTUMBO FINGER*
May 07th 2014
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                                                   yeah, THAT'S NOT THE POINT
May 07th 2014
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                                                   you can shade the paint w/ a weakside defender, double before the catch
May 07th 2014
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basically, lol...
May 07th 2014
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maybe doc...but in boston he had KG, Pierce, Allen and rondo
May 07th 2014
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      1/2 the Pierce legend is disgusting one-on-one play in 4th quarters
May 07th 2014
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           oh thats def true.
May 07th 2014
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                all iso sets aren't equal
May 07th 2014
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                     Eh, I'd say a good 60 - 70% were straight isos
May 07th 2014
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                          why are people so focused on endgame sets?
May 07th 2014
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                               A couple guys mentioned end game sets
May 07th 2014
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                               i think the problem here (as with the whole post)
May 07th 2014
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                               Nah, you got destroyed. Go home.
May 07th 2014
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or a list of coaches who had the best shooter in the league
May 07th 2014
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what the fuck happened in here?? and also...
May 07th 2014
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I would love to see Avery try to wrap his brain around Jennings game.
May 07th 2014
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that point guard experience is a big part of it
May 07th 2014
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sounds good.. long as u can find a GM and assistant coaches
May 08th 2014
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      shit he can pick his own GM and assistants for all I care lol
May 08th 2014
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"word on these streets, some gay exec got Mark Jack got fired bruh"
May 07th 2014
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by streets did you mean this post?
May 08th 2014
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      by word, did he mean homophobic conspiracy theory?
May 08th 2014
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      How bout this...
May 08th 2014
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      article based on speculation but he can probably pursue a suit if he mad
May 08th 2014
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           Wish I could say more...
May 08th 2014
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      Lol fucker
May 08th 2014
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When is Steph's contract up?
May 08th 2014
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2017
May 08th 2014
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Was Jackson the one who traded ALL their assets for Iggy?
May 08th 2014
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C'mon, dude. The expirings were Jefferson, Biedrins, and Rush
May 08th 2014
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Journalists had chosen sides on this one, sadly.
May 08th 2014
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      I expect ESPN to be behind Jackson. He used to work there...
May 08th 2014
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The front office is on notice but let's not be silly
May 08th 2014
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Well, the Warriors front office looks pretty fucking stupid right now
May 14th 2014
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True but...
May 14th 2014
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But the most legit knock on Jackson is that he's not an X's & O's
May 14th 2014
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      Is Scott Brooks and Xs and Os guy?
May 14th 2014
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      The honest no agenda truth is: whiteness
May 14th 2014
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      I Don't Get This
May 15th 2014
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           RE: I Don't Get This
May 15th 2014
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Really surprised by Kerr
May 14th 2014
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      5 years too. thats surprising.
May 14th 2014
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      Well, you said it: he's better than the non-Jackson alternatives
May 15th 2014
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oh welp. kerr it is
May 14th 2014
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Hands Down, Man Down: Mark Jackson returns to ESPN
May 17th 2014
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"Thanks" Warriors.
May 18th 2014
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Happy Memorial Day
May 24th 2015
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https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/steve-kerr.jpg
May 24th 2015
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Steph kinda killed this argument, though
May 24th 2015
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Old news. No one cares about Mark Jackson anymore.
May 24th 2015
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