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"Born Ready to Destroy a Locker Room? (Woj swipe)"


  

          

I wonder who the other players getting at Lance were

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pacers-fight-each-other-on-eve-of-playoffs--finally-take-swing-at-hawks-in-game-2-062419341.html


On the eve of this Eastern Conference series, the wobbling No. 1 seed punctuated its final playoff preparations in a most self-destructive way: Two Indiana Pacers dragged a cursing, cut Evan Turner out of the Bankers Life Fieldhouse court, untangling him from a practice-floor fistfight with teammate Lance Stephenson.

Turner hadn't been the first Pacer to lose his temper with Stephenson these tumultuous several weeks, and Stephenson's relentlessly irritable nature suggests Turner won't be the last. These scrapes aren't uncommon in the NBA, but this confrontation had been weeks in the making and that reflected in the ferocity of the encounter, sources told Yahoo Sports.

"This stuff happens, but the timing wasn't ideal," one witness told Yahoo Sports.

If acrimony naturally lingered into Saturday, make no mistake: Stephenson and Turner weren't the reason the Atlanta Hawks embarrassed the Pacers in Game 1. Maybe it tilted the mood of locker room, but no one dared suggest that it held responsibility for deadening the Pacers into defeat.

These two guards have struggled together since the deadline deal brought Turner from Philadelphia to Indiana. Suddenly, Turner is learning to play without the ball in his hands, and Stephenson is relearning the balance of passing and shooting. Truth be told, there were probably Pacers willing to let Stephenson and Turner beat the dribble out of each other. Still, Luis Scola and David West finally grabbed an enraged Turner and separated Stephenson.



If the scrape had been symptomatic of greater tensions within the Pacers, it's also clear this has been a full team collapse and will need to be a full team recovery.
"We've been on the ropes a little bit," West told Yahoo Sports Tuesday night. "Every team goes through that. But I thought we did a great job of dealing with whatever issues we had. The great thing about this group has always been that we're very open with one another, always been able to get through the ups and downs of a long NBA season."

Yes, they did it with fists on Friday, but mostly they've found a way to talk through the frustrations of a flat-lined final several weeks of the season.

These Pacers have been a combustible mix of talent and expectations and immaturity. Still, Indiana finally found footing with a 101-85 Game 2 victory over Atlanta on Tuesday night at Bankers Life. Paul George was fantastic and Roy Hibbert struggled again. Indiana can live without Hibbert in this series, but he'll need to be himself again to make a championship run. The Pacers need to go smaller with the Hawks, but that wouldn't be the case in the conference semifinals and conference finals.

"We know that Larry and Donnie and put a team together to try and win a championship this year," Hibbert told Yahoo Sports. "We know that's the goal, and we know that's the kind of talent we have here. It's up to us now to do it, to get it done."

These aren't the Pacers of the relentlessly patient Donnie Walsh anymore, and rest assured: Bird won't let a collapse go unaccounted. Frank Vogel's coaching job is on the line, and perhaps Hibbert's future with the Pacers, too. This is Indiana's championship time, and the stakes are immense.



Bird made two significant deals to fortify this title run – Turner for Danny Granger, and the signing of Andrew Bynum – and those haven't worked for him. Bynum could be done for the season with his knee problems, and perhaps everyone underestimated how much Granger had left in him, and how awkwardly Turner would fit into the Pacers.
The Pacers let go of a free agent-to-be they wouldn't have re-signed for a young, former No. 2 overall pick whom they hoped they could re-sign to a long-term deal.

"I'm just trying to make the right plays here," Turner told Yahoo Sports. "Some nights I get two shots, some nights I get 10 or 12. I'm trying to get acclimated."

Turner had one shot and just 11 minutes in Game 2, but the Pacers won and that lifted a burden off everyone in the locker room. Turner insisted "nothing happened" with Stephenson in practice on Friday, but he's in a tough spot to cop to the truth. He doesn't want to be a disruption, but rather a solution. Turner's trying to fit into these Pacers, trying to prove he belongs on the court for a championship contender.

Yes, Turner's finding his way with these Pacers, and maybe that started on the eve of these NBA playoffs with a challenge of the Brooklyn kid who calls himself Born Ready. These things happen in the NBA, and eventually someone else will make a run at Lance Stephenson. For now, the Pacers understand: The rest of the way, they need to take some swings within these Eastern Conference playoffs. This is the Indiana Pacers' moment of truth, a championship-caliber roster that's out of time to flail punches into the Bankers Life Fieldhouse air.

It is time to play ball, time to grow up and, maybe most of all, time to honor the promise of a season that is too rich in possibility to lose fighting themselves.

  

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Born Ready to Destroy a Locker Room? (Woj swipe) [View all] , southphillyman, Wed Apr-23-14 09:14 AM
 
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Record before Evan Turner. Record after Evan Turner. Born Ready wins.
Apr 23rd 2014
1
Born Ready likely lost $5-10 million in FA money because of that stretch
Apr 23rd 2014
2
You misspelled "Paul George's MVP votes"
Apr 23rd 2014
3
      agenda posting fucks with your iq man.
Apr 23rd 2014
4
           Nah, that Paul George is the reason the Pacers slid is a well known fact
Apr 23rd 2014
5
           ^^^^case in point
Apr 23rd 2014
10
                Nigga. Take your issue up with Grantland. THEY said it.
Apr 23rd 2014
12
                     the fact that you even made a LS post about PG...point proven
Apr 23rd 2014
15
                          LOL -- SPM said Born Ready ruined the season.
Apr 23rd 2014
16
                               1. he did not say that...you just horny to get your pg hate off
Apr 23rd 2014
19
                                    Damn!! Somebody need to go sneak a quick Yoga session in
Apr 23rd 2014
22
                                         don't matter how minor it was, it happened
Apr 23rd 2014
24
                                              OJ Mayo was a top 5 pick, Albert Einstein Newton
Apr 23rd 2014
25
                                                   what's that have to do with his market value? being a top 5 pick?
Apr 23rd 2014
29
                                                        Let it go, breh. Take the L and K.I.M.
Apr 23rd 2014
32
           RE: agenda posting fucks with your iq man.
Apr 23rd 2014
26
                ok, now read reply 2, and then reply 3....
Apr 23rd 2014
30
                     http://tinyurl.com/ohnp76s
Apr 23rd 2014
40
                          damn, you really are a wanna be bags
Apr 23rd 2014
41
                               http://tinyurl.com/naprm3k
Apr 23rd 2014
43
                                    I could see bags linking that pic...all you need is some exclamation poi...
Apr 23rd 2014
44
                                         I could see you linking these nuts, L-dridge cleaver
Apr 23rd 2014
45
                                              orbit established get gunned up and clapped quick...
Apr 24th 2014
47
                                                   "You don't want it with O(E), Nooooooooo"
Apr 24th 2014
60
                                                        lol
Apr 24th 2014
68
It's simple mathematics (c)
Apr 23rd 2014
18
Yeah I didn't even up that turner cysage thread but we stay winning
Apr 23rd 2014
20
will be water under the bridge by the time they lose to the heat.
Apr 23rd 2014
6
It was suggested, that as Lance heads into FA, if he gets big $$$
Apr 23rd 2014
7
      Um. Orbit_Established said that. No one else said that. Just me.
Apr 23rd 2014
8
           Bro, that was common knowledge as soon as the trade happen.
Apr 23rd 2014
9
           It ended up being the trade that ruined their season.
Apr 23rd 2014
14
                Maybe. I like both players. Lance a little more.
Apr 23rd 2014
28
                     Lance led the league in triple doubles and has been a delight.
Apr 23rd 2014
31
                          I've been a Lance fan for a minute & that's just his personality.
Apr 23rd 2014
36
                               Nah, this is all one large Paul George plea cop
Apr 23rd 2014
38
                               I didn't say it Lances fault though.
Apr 23rd 2014
42
                               blaming the 7th man off the bench is the new thing on here
Apr 24th 2014
48
           lolz
Apr 23rd 2014
13
Niggas forgot he was a Marbury
Apr 23rd 2014
11
He is, like, the opposite of Marbury in every conceivable way
Apr 23rd 2014
17
My man OE teaching y'all a master class in damage control
Apr 23rd 2014
21
This one was easy...Grantland lurkers saved me
Apr 23rd 2014
23
let's do a Kickstarter to fund Lance to Sacramento
Apr 23rd 2014
27
They will break the .gif record
Apr 23rd 2014
33
It Was All Good Just A Geek Ago(c)Hov/Short
Apr 23rd 2014
34
Given your recent run, that's C-level
Apr 23rd 2014
35
      it was definitely a borderline effort, just wanted to get a shot in
Apr 23rd 2014
37
           See, even that was fantastic
Apr 23rd 2014
39
In summary, Lance gets into a fight with a team mate = PG's fault
Apr 24th 2014
46
well PG is the leader of the team (or should be)
Apr 24th 2014
50
      lol
Apr 24th 2014
51
      isn't that on Vogel, Bird and Walsh?
Apr 24th 2014
52
           If melo can play wit JR smith PG is fine with evan turner.
Apr 24th 2014
54
           I wasn't intimating that he has a problem with ET
Apr 24th 2014
55
                If PG don't understand the Granger trade, well i don't know
Apr 24th 2014
56
                     ^^^ drinking the kool-aid. IND lost A GAME, A DAY after Lance got
Apr 24th 2014
57
                     ^^^Paul george shot 33% in game 1 = lance's fault.
Apr 24th 2014
58
                          ^^^ upper cut off the bridge onto the spikes below
Apr 24th 2014
59
                               RE: ^^^ upper cut off the bridge onto the spikes below
Apr 24th 2014
64
                                    lance getting into a fight with a teammate ain't a problem per se
Apr 24th 2014
65
                                         RE: reply #52
Apr 24th 2014
66
                     lmao
Apr 24th 2014
62
           naw players have to police themselves to an extent
Apr 24th 2014
63
damn, Vogel's job is on the line?
Apr 24th 2014
49
hes about to get Rick Carlisle-ed circa 2003
Apr 24th 2014
53
When Orbit_Established said it, you all got mad at me
Apr 24th 2014
61
      pretty sure thats my first ever post referencing frank vogel lol
Apr 25th 2014
77
Fall guy for Bird/Pritchard's horrible moves
Apr 24th 2014
67
      +2
Apr 24th 2014
69
      subtraction by addition
Apr 25th 2014
70
      that scola deal is not a disaster
Apr 25th 2014
79
           more their deadline deals that i thought were suspect
Apr 25th 2014
83
Lance is basically the new Stephen Jackson
Apr 25th 2014
71
His game is literally the opposite of Stephen Jackson.
Apr 25th 2014
72
      Did I say their game is similar? No
Apr 25th 2014
73
           They have nothing in common, at all. As in, zero.
Apr 25th 2014
74
                RE: They have nothing in common, at all. As in, zero.
Apr 25th 2014
75
                RE: They have nothing in common, at all. As in, zero.
Apr 25th 2014
76
                yup Pop cutting him helped the Spurs make a finals run
Apr 25th 2014
80
                stephen jackson was a terrible shooter lol
Apr 25th 2014
78
                So were more talented cats such as AI, Baron & Stackhouse
Apr 25th 2014
81
                     Forgot to mention that he was the 2nd best player on the 2003 Champs
Apr 25th 2014
84
                     its not possible for me to care even a fraction less abt any of that
Apr 25th 2014
85
                          then you have ZERO objectivity........PEACE!
Apr 25th 2014
87
                Capt Jack is far from a Euro style player
Apr 25th 2014
82
LMAO!!!! WTF I tell y'all?
Apr 25th 2014
86
Not surprised at all that Lance is the main reason for their late season
Apr 26th 2014
88

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