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"Z-Lo on Morey/Rox' Master Plan to Humiliate Certain Posters"
Tue Feb-26-13 10:44 AM by Guinness

  

          

first three paragraphs below (it's a long story, and does discuss about some of the rox defense problems and issues with fitting in t-rob). plus i'm adding one bonus graf about MIDRANGE JUMPERS!

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8989580/is-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-plan-working-houston

The Rockets Reach for Greatness
After another deadline steal, Daryl Morey's plan may finally be working.

It was only eight months ago that the perception of Daryl Morey and the Houston Rockets in some NBA circles had shifted from ahead-of-the-curve trailblazers to borderline laughingstocks who accrued little more than burned-up cell phone minutes. Dwight Howard had joined Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony on the list of superstars who had eluded the Rockets, despite iPad presentations and a nonstop flurry of gain-an-inch deals that had netted Houston some prime trade assets. By August, the Rockets had parted ways with two starting-caliber point guards, splurged on two unproven free agents in Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik, and on the surface looked like a franchise without a clear path up from mediocrity. The vultures (and critics) were circling: Perhaps Daryl Morey's approach just didn't work in real life.

Eight months later, after the stunning acquisition of Thomas Robinson — a top-five pick Houston nabbed without actually losing enough to get that high in the lottery — the Rockets are among the league's most-envied franchises. Their out-of-nowhere deal for Robinson drew a giant collective gasp around the NBA. They're 31-27 against one of the league's toughest schedules, a strong no. 4 in John Hollinger's power rankings, and a very good bet to make the playoffs for the first time since 2008-09. They have reinvented themselves around a superstar and an offensive system that represent the on-court actualization of NBA advanced stats — all 3s, free throws, and shots at the rim, accomplished at a hyper pace that makes Houston perhaps the league's most entertaining watch. "I've become a believer," says Kelvin Sampson, Houston's lead assistant. "It's fun to watch, and it's fun to coach."

Best of all: Houston should be able to carve out enough cap space this summer to make a run at any free agent, including Howard. And if they strike out again, the Rockets can simply carry over all that cap room to 2014 or 2015, both loaded with potential franchise players who might be happy to join up with James Harden. Heck, even if Houston splurges this summer on an almost-star such as Josh Smith, doing so would not necessarily prevent the team from reentering the free agency sweepstakes for a real star the following summer. "I don't think it's mutually exclusive," Morey says when asked whether spending this summer would take them out of the 2014 derby.

U LIKE MIDRANGE JUMPERS GUYS?

The results have probably been even better than expected internally: Houston is fifth in points per possession thanks mostly to a shot selection profile that represents the next phase in what teams like Orlando, San Antonio, and Denver have done over the last few seasons. Houston is second in the league in 3-point attempts, third in shots from the restricted area, first in corner 3s, and in the top 10 in free throws per shot attempt. Houston is on pace to average the fewest midrange 2-point shots in recorded NBA history, per both Hoopdata and NBA.com's stats database. It is just about the exact vision the front office and coaching staff outlined in a series of meetings that started after last season, and it's something they began to execute in the preseason — before acquiring Harden. "It started to come together in our last two preseason games, and we got really excited," Sampson says. "And then we got even more excited when we got James."1

  

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Z-Lo on Morey/Rox' Master Plan to Humiliate Certain Posters [View all] , Guinness, Tue Feb-26-13 10:42 AM
 
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it was the hardest 13 minutes of my life waiting for you to post this
Feb 26th 2013
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thank you, shells.
Feb 26th 2013
2
NOOOOOOO
Feb 26th 2013
3
i understand what agenda means. i understand what free means
Feb 26th 2013
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btw Olbrecht turned down the C's to sign with us
Feb 26th 2013
4
beverly looks like a baller, too
Feb 26th 2013
6
      definitely an upgrade over TD
Feb 26th 2013
7
      Beverley IS a baller...
Feb 26th 2013
8
           he is.. if he only had 2 more inches on him
Feb 26th 2013
78
I like how you skipped the part where Morey likes D'Antoni's Suns
Feb 26th 2013
9
why wouldn't someone like those teams?
Feb 26th 2013
10
      point being -- the revolution in Houston still needs more people
Feb 26th 2013
11
      RE: point being -- the revolution in Houston still needs more people
Feb 26th 2013
108
           Seemed simple & straight to the point right?
Feb 26th 2013
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      Maybe we live in the world where teams like to win chips.
Feb 26th 2013
12
           HUH NICE DUDE!
Feb 26th 2013
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                I know we spent an afternoon arguing that point about a year ago
Feb 26th 2013
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                One win a away. Still didn't win though.
Feb 26th 2013
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                     or model yourself after the 20 "normal" teams
Feb 26th 2013
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                          Well it kinda does, cuz a team playing that way has NEVER won.
Feb 26th 2013
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                               so you're good with a 1/20 over a 0/1
Feb 27th 2013
134
I'm blown by the whole no playbook thing...
Feb 26th 2013
13
that was surprising to me, too, THAT I'd like to see in a 7-gm series
Feb 26th 2013
15
      the point is that golden state is lucky and not good.
Feb 26th 2013
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      and Morey is a pig in shit cuz OKC wouldn't pay Harden the MAX
Feb 26th 2013
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           LOL
Feb 26th 2013
21
           or maybe HOU would be 15 over .500 if they ran actual plays??
Feb 26th 2013
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                so you're just spiraling into rabid idiocy here?
Feb 26th 2013
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                     you're the one saying a team can only be as good as its projected record
Feb 26th 2013
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                          and Felix Hernandez totally didn't deserve that Cy Young
Feb 26th 2013
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                          (pssst -- I think you replied in the wrong spot, this is a bball post)
Feb 26th 2013
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                               just one more thing in this post you need to think through some more
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    baseball is an individual game, basketball is a team one
Feb 26th 2013
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                                         you're being just as obtuse as guys who hold losses against pitchers
Feb 26th 2013
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                                              you're comparing baseball to basketball, your faith is blinding you
Feb 26th 2013
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                                              that's totally not the point
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                   it is the point -- y'all are getting dogmatic about advanced stats
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                        i admit hoops stats guys are in their joe shehan intolerable phase
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                             I actually agree with both of these statements:
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                             ok, sure
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                             no one here is even that dogmatic.
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                             That this post is a GM argument pins that historically pretty well
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                                  add in NBA is capped w/ form contracts, it couldn't be less analogous
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                                       Why are your words?
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                                       it's a note to whoever is making it -- it's dumb + needs to stop
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                                       Perhaps it would make more sense under a post which says so?
Feb 26th 2013
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                                              I don't think this tells the whole story tho
Feb 26th 2013
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                                                   thanks for this.
Feb 26th 2013
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                          lulz (again)
Feb 26th 2013
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                               I get it -- but the immediate dismissal of the GSW approach is comedy
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    helllllo argument from anecdote!
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    what on earth are you talking about?
Feb 26th 2013
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                                         yeah, it's comically obvious GSW has a better W-L record than HOU
Feb 26th 2013
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                                              a nice hello to you, mr. strawman!
Feb 26th 2013
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           cmon. ur better than this
Feb 26th 2013
22
      they added a healthy curry
Feb 26th 2013
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           that too.
Feb 26th 2013
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can we wait until they're actually, you know, good?
Feb 26th 2013
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that idiot should have traded for three hall-of-famers.
Feb 26th 2013
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imagine what a genius morey would be...
Feb 26th 2013
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      i wish I had the stat handy
Feb 26th 2013
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He's been G.M. for that long?
Feb 26th 2013
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      he was just on the hot seat last offseason
Feb 26th 2013
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           This whole love affair with dude has a Lesson-head vibe to it.
Feb 26th 2013
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           lucky=compiling stuff that other people wanted to trade for
Feb 26th 2013
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           No, the luck was OKC being ultimately forced to trade Harden..
Feb 26th 2013
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                except the rockets and people who understand advanced stats
Feb 26th 2013
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                SPM isnt scared of math at all
Feb 26th 2013
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                i miss the days of me and SPM riding that GOATWAVE
Feb 26th 2013
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                Dude, I don't care about any of that.
Feb 26th 2013
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                     But what's the alternative?
Feb 26th 2013
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                          I know winning in the NBA isn't easy.
Feb 26th 2013
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                               right? like HOU is the only team to ever discover above .500 ball
Feb 26th 2013
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                               Exactly. And better teams at that.
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    Nobody has annointed them and expects them to win it this year
Feb 26th 2013
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                                         honest ? -- how different is this from what Don Yeltsin did in the '80s?
Feb 26th 2013
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                               Agreed...kinda. I don't see Hou much further from Ind or Mem
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    exactly, like his bad defense
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    Man Indiana is definitely a contender.
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    Indiana has had the 3rd easiest schedule this season
Feb 27th 2013
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                                    save face on what exactly? everything i've said has become truth
Feb 26th 2013
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                we had to put ourselves in a position to make that deal
Feb 26th 2013
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                I dig that. They put themselves in that position by...
Feb 26th 2013
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                     Now (answer to your last question)
Feb 26th 2013
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                          Okay cool.
Feb 26th 2013
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                               Why is Trob a headache?
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    All 3 are talented. And super aggressive.
Feb 26th 2013
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                                         I thought you also said something about trob being a bit of a headcase
Feb 26th 2013
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                                              Yeah, T-Rob plays pressed and Royce got his own shit.
Feb 26th 2013
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                They weren't "forced" to trade Harden.
Feb 26th 2013
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                     You know what I mean dude. Lol
Feb 26th 2013
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                     there was no "oh shit" moment, they had the HOU deal lined up
Feb 26th 2013
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                          I do think that they could have gotten better for Harden
Feb 27th 2013
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                     and they've done fine w/o Harden, despite what prognosticators said
Feb 26th 2013
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                          I was never a "OKC IS DOOMED" guy.
Feb 26th 2013
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                               I think either way they're good to be honest.
Feb 26th 2013
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                               and in a capped league, production : value is a GM's job to determine
Feb 26th 2013
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                                    You mean matches Harden's output in OKC, right?
Feb 26th 2013
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                                         yeah, that's what I mean -- Presti replaced Harden in the OKC system
Feb 26th 2013
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           it's a culmination of hurt feelings really
Feb 26th 2013
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                lol
Feb 26th 2013
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           This Rockets team is overachieving, period
Feb 26th 2013
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                actually, i said they'd make the playoffs.
Feb 26th 2013
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                     they will if theres no big injuries.
Feb 26th 2013
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Certain Posters Humiliate Themselves...They Don't Need Help Doing It
Feb 26th 2013
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Aside from the whole Rockets vs. GSW sub-thread here...
Feb 26th 2013
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I don't...
Feb 26th 2013
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You Realize That
Feb 26th 2013
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      yes, everything is predicated on being able to make 3s
Feb 27th 2013
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      all midrange is bad.
Mar 04th 2013
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      Your examples actually help prove my point.
Feb 27th 2013
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Article was lacking
Feb 26th 2013
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Last I checked they don't give out O'Brien trophies for paper champions....
Feb 26th 2013
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paper champions? nah, player -- they're using SPREADSHEETS now!
Feb 26th 2013
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look who youre agreeing with
Feb 26th 2013
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      funny is funny, I don't discriminate
Feb 26th 2013
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Bron reads them spreadsheets from Battier
Feb 26th 2013
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      *ahem*
Feb 26th 2013
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Why do people continually call Lin's contract terrible?
Feb 26th 2013
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All the players you named are older than Lin too.
Feb 26th 2013
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because they're knicks fans or dumb
Feb 26th 2013
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What about the "advanced stats" tho?
Feb 26th 2013
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his 13 and 6 is right around what hill and conley got $40 mill for.
Feb 26th 2013
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      And they both got longer deals if I'm not mistaken.
Feb 26th 2013
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           It's A Bad Contract For the Retaining Teams
Feb 26th 2013
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                Why Knick Fans act like he isnt @ worst a tradeable commodity in Year 3?
Feb 26th 2013
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                ^^^ dolan's personal accountant
Feb 27th 2013
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                     Because That's the Reason
Feb 27th 2013
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                          NO
Feb 27th 2013
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people who arent from the H yet root for the Rockets annoy me
Feb 26th 2013
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^^^ the type of dude SPM be preaching Morey to in barbershops
Feb 26th 2013
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      bruh u running around with this narrative that i really agree wit u is w...
Feb 26th 2013
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           lmao
Feb 26th 2013
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           You also don't know what the Larry O'Brien trophy is.
Feb 26th 2013
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                i know u looked dumb as shit as Lebron held it in the air
Feb 27th 2013
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                Oh, did you take a day to google it? Cool.
Feb 27th 2013
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                lolz
Mar 04th 2013
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http://cdn.theguardian.tv/brightcove/poster/2012/7/5/120705HawkingHiggsB...
Feb 26th 2013
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Morey summed up Lowe's epic in five sentences
Feb 26th 2013
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the overarching issue:
Feb 27th 2013
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It's also hard to be a contender with a star
Feb 27th 2013
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gotdamn some objective perspective!!!
Feb 27th 2013
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      None of us Morey/Rockets fans disagree with that
Feb 27th 2013
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           well how could you?
Feb 27th 2013
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LOL I guess Bun B was on 1st take this morning
Feb 27th 2013
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I'd Be Stunned If They Get Out the First Round
Feb 27th 2013
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      We have a slim chance of beating any of those 3
Feb 27th 2013
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Morey and Lowe talk from Sloan
Mar 04th 2013
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t-rob: already best PF in basketball???
Mar 04th 2013
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LOL
Mar 04th 2013
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i'm sure love is their ideal acquisition.
Mar 04th 2013
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83 percent shooting is like letting 2 bill russells play at once!
Mar 04th 2013
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      it's a solid starting lineup
Mar 04th 2013
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           the bill russells are the 2nd and 3rd best defenders in that lineup
Mar 04th 2013
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                i'm just worried they don't have enough offense.
Mar 04th 2013
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aaron brooks signed w/ a team option for next year.
Mar 04th 2013
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