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20. "But even then, unless it's a top prospect, it doesn't matter."
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Think of all of the QBs who have led their team to winning seasons in college, sometimes BCS bowl victories or even titles, who can't stick in the pros despite their "leadership" and "high IQ."

Unless there's a certain ground level of elite pure size, strength, and athleticism, they simply won't stick. Scores of Heisman Trophy winning QBs who were unquestionably strong leaders on wildly successful offenses in college never amounted to shit in the pros, because in the pros, having been a leader and *wanting* to lead simply isn't enough.

Likewise, there are super-athletes with cannons who just can't figure it out because they DON'T have the necessary leadership or high football IQ. But these guys just tend to bust bigger as they tend to get drafted higher.

It's just so unquantifiable as evidence. It's not that tales of a player's leadership should be ignored, and there are obvious exceptions where leadership carried a player past their potential physical or athletic drawbacks, but it shouldn't be the ground floor for determining their ceiling.

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Can we talk about the "ceiling" on prospects? [View all] , Basaglia, Tue Jan-29-13 11:02 AM
 
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T-Rob will be fine when he gets out of that cesspool
Jan 29th 2013
1
Then it becomes an issue of, is T-Rob gonna be Bo Outlaw?
Jan 29th 2013
2
The opposite of this happens to Jeremy Lin
Jan 29th 2013
3
good topic
Jan 29th 2013
4
a lot of it has to do with where a guy gets his opportunity....
Jan 29th 2013
5
true..."adaptibility" is another quality
Jan 29th 2013
7
^^^would make a great topic for the day on the OKS podcast
Jan 29th 2013
6
true...thanks for the suggestion
Jan 29th 2013
8
One underrated physical thing I notice in a lot of pgs
Jan 29th 2013
9
Nash has that good "keep your body over the ball" soccer balance
Jan 29th 2013
10
kinda what i mean when touching on athleticism...it ALL matters
Jan 29th 2013
11
Mike Conley is really skilled in this regard.
Jan 29th 2013
12
I agree on Conley
Jan 29th 2013
13
that's where MCW has to improve.
Jan 29th 2013
17
for running backs: patience and cutting ability
Jan 29th 2013
14
Patience is pretty important in a lot of sports & @ a lot of positions
Jan 29th 2013
21
I think leadership is the MOST overrated feature.
Jan 29th 2013
15
not at QB, dogg. it's damn near underrated at QB.
Jan 29th 2013
16
      it's pretty hard to quantify unless you know the prospect, though
Jan 29th 2013
18
           can't disagree...but players and coaches say it matters a lot
Jan 29th 2013
19
               
how easily a player can create their own good shot
Jan 29th 2013
22
Plenty of pros can't do that though.
Jan 29th 2013
23

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