>and i'm not being pretentious at all
not at all--not even a tiny but? FOH.

>just highlighting how ridiculous some of the pretentious
>comments/suggestions from the "stat heads" are in these
>threads when:
>a)they're talking about middle school math
>b)none of them are actually doing math anyway, aren't coming
>up with formulas or new perspectives, and the use of AS here
>is pretty zero sum (the whole reason why there's opposition)
>instead of being nuanced or insightful

Advanced Stats as it stands right now IS middle school or high school math. Thats fact. But just because it is doesnt mean it isnt valid, doesnt make sense, or is weak.

Ill be the first to say that I'm not a math guy. The highest math I took was calculus but that doesnt mean my arithmetic and algebra isnt as sharp, fast, and accurate as anyone elses on this board. Its apples to fuckin oranges.

You deal with math on a daily basis, great. That doesnt mean you understand advanced stats better than all of us who dont.

If you think there's a way you can apply your math to NBA advanced Stats analysis then I would strongly suggest you take your HADOOP, figure out how to apply it to advanced stats, and get yourself a nice paying, cushy NBA or other sports job--cause thats the next frontier. Theres jobs out there eight now calling your name. Morey had a feww posted up a couple weeks ago.


I was a guy who grew up watching basketball and up until a few years ago was one of those guys you mentioned who dismissed them. But imo any smart person who really takes the opportunity to look deeper into it and realize that isnt an end all be all will figure out where it makes sense. There are still areas of it I remain cautiously skeptical about, but like I said, there's a huge frontier for people who really know statistics. If I had known this growing up--I would've done something completely different.

Lets get into the hypocrisy of your statement on lines being drawn in the sand.
It's funny that you choose to post so dense on some of this shit because your line is drawn in the sand with Guinness. I've seen you in posts quoting advanced stats so I know you know they arent invalid. But because one of your big beefs on this board is with the guy who is known as the boards biggest AS guy, you choose to slam it publicly to feed the trolls who really arent even understanding the basic math to go at Guinness. When I think about it--it is pretty crafty and hilarious. I imagine you just posting shit like--"Chill Morey used it to get the 7th seed" and sitting back laughing when you get dudes to cosign it when you know damn well Morey isnt the only dude in the league using AS...not even close.


I love how you even had to go get all stah on that salary negotiation shit. LMAO.

I think Frank said it best the AS guys cant really be pretentious first. As Ive seen it theyll throw stats out there that traditionalist old guard types will quickly make fun of as geek shit--when like you said it isnt really geek shit. Its basic math. Just a new way at looking at the game.

No AS guys argue to exclusively look at the game with a 100% AS lens. But there are plenty of old guard guys on this board and in the NBA who are still like we dont need that AS stuff at all.

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