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"Lionel Hollins goes in on analytics, nerds attack"


  

          

SB Nation article: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/1/1...interview-2012

Kinda interesting after they just hired Hollinger...Here's what some twitter guys commented:

Kevin Pelton@kpelton
Here's what's sad to me about Lionel Hollins' comments: He thinks statistical analysis has different goals than he does.
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Haralabos Voulgaris@haralabob
This Lionel Hollins interview is just puzzling, his reasoning for why scoring is down is nonsense. Also bemoans "stats" and "analysis" cont
11 Jan 13 ReplyRetweetFavorite


Haralabos Voulgaris@haralabob
but then mentions the Houston Rockets are scoring a lot. I wonder if he understands why they are scoring a lot.
11 Jan 13 ReplyRetweetFavorite


Brett Koremenos@BKoremenos
The Lionel Hollins interview has pretty much confirmed all the suspicions I've had about how he handles his team. Glad he's getting exposed.
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Brett Koremenos@BKoremenos
So to sum up the Hollins interview, he's not a strategist and he's not open to advanced stats. Great combination for today's NBA.

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Lionel Hollins goes in on analytics, nerds attack [View all] , ShawndmeSlanted, Fri Jan-11-13 06:47 PM
 
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this has been such a war of atrition
Jan 11th 2013
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Ignorant is the new black
Jan 11th 2013
2
wat?
Jan 11th 2013
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No really, I'm still waiting on an explanation for this.
Jan 14th 2013
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      *arms folded, tapping foot*
Jan 14th 2013
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           Still waiting.
Jan 15th 2013
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                RE: Still waiting.
Jan 15th 2013
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                     Don't throw him a lifeline, I wanted that poster to explain in the...
Jan 15th 2013
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                          http://kimkardashian.celebuzz.com/2012/07/13/white-is-the-new-black/
Jan 15th 2013
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                               lol
Jan 15th 2013
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that was sad.
Jan 11th 2013
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He didn't really "go in" on analytics, he just told ThaTruth, it can't.....
Jan 11th 2013
5
So you didn't read the article then?
Jan 11th 2013
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      Yeah I did...
Jan 11th 2013
9
           Depends what team
Jan 15th 2013
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RE: Lionel Hollins goes in on analytics, nerds attack
Jan 11th 2013
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LOL
Jan 11th 2013
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do people still actually do this in the NBA?
Jan 12th 2013
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      Lmao
Jan 12th 2013
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           RE: Lmao
Jan 12th 2013
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                Rudy wants to play anywhere where he can be paid.
Jan 12th 2013
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                You don't rob a bank, beat the trial, the. Give the $ back
Jan 12th 2013
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                     RE: You don't rob a bank, beat the trial, the. Give the $ back
Jan 12th 2013
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                          2 major errors in your thinking
Jan 12th 2013
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                               RE: 2 major errors in your thinking
Jan 12th 2013
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                                    RE: 2 major errors in your thinking
Jan 12th 2013
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                                    You do realize this is basketball and not football right?
Jan 12th 2013
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                                    RE: You do realize this is basketball and not football right?
Jan 12th 2013
                                    RE: You do realize this is basketball and not football right?
Jan 12th 2013
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                                    lolz this is where i bow out and try to get some laundry done.
Jan 12th 2013
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                                    football contracts are restructured because they're not guaranteed
Jan 12th 2013
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                                    RE: football contracts are restructured because they're not guaranteed
Jan 12th 2013
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                                         no one is going to do it man give it up
Jan 12th 2013
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                                    You going in tomorrow to beg your bosses for a pay cut?
Aug 13th 2019
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Nobody that wins games cares about this shit. Sorry nerds. Blog & cry.
Jan 11th 2013
10
^^^
Jan 11th 2013
11
chill Morey used it to get 7th seed
Jan 11th 2013
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      He's always gonna use it to get the 7th seed
Jan 11th 2013
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           Lulz at this flat earth circle jerk
Jan 11th 2013
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                Your mid range jumper of a reply fell flat and to the right
Jan 11th 2013
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                This was one of the weirdest circle jerks
Jan 12th 2013
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Hmmm.. Another case of trying to make a Black coach look incompetent
Jan 11th 2013
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Hollins might be a fine coach, but he'd be a shit GM.
Jan 11th 2013
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^^^ great reply that folks will ignore.
Jan 11th 2013
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Great post.
Jan 12th 2013
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I disagree.
Jan 12th 2013
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My argument isn't that it is impossible for Memphis.
Jan 12th 2013
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thats not completely true...
Jan 12th 2013
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i wouldn't argue analytics with a nonbeliever...
Jan 11th 2013
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How many titles has Morey won?
Jan 11th 2013
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Morey isn't the only guy that uses it doofball
Jan 12th 2013
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Spurs used metrics to see how many games they should hold out...
Jan 12th 2013
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      This is about as loud and wrong you've been
Jan 12th 2013
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      Lol
Jan 12th 2013
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you post like a nigga who failed fractions.
Jan 12th 2013
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lmao, awesome
Jan 12th 2013
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my argument is that even "advanced stats" are still too basic
Jan 12th 2013
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some of these advanced stats are dumb, tho
Jan 15th 2013
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      agreed ...
Jan 15th 2013
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Unfortunately it seems like analytics is the next front on race warz
Jan 12th 2013
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Harabalos makes more money betting nba than anyone else alive
Jan 12th 2013
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Advanced metrics and traditional scouting go hand-in-hand
Jan 12th 2013
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Pretty much
Jan 12th 2013
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right, even morey said it was funny bc AS confirmed a lot of what they
Jan 12th 2013
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you're 100% correct, of course, but here's the thing :
Jan 12th 2013
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      I hear you but what I'm referring to is the labeling of each 'party'
Jan 12th 2013
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           Stat guys only get dismissive when stats get ignored.
Jan 12th 2013
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           ^^^^^^^
Jan 12th 2013
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           gotcha. we're on the same page here.
Jan 12th 2013
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           like everything on this board lines are drawn in the sand over agendas
Jan 12th 2013
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                why are so many people just gonna be wrong here?
Jan 12th 2013
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                gotta love these replies....
Jan 12th 2013
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                     about how people generally use stats here
Jan 12th 2013
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                          um read some of the comments in here if you get the chance
Jan 12th 2013
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                               Ive read the replies here and countless in other posts
Jan 12th 2013
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                                    it's bizarre.
Jan 12th 2013
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                                         I disagree with you about heart and leadership being bs
Jan 12th 2013
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                                              I think his point is that when they point at specific players
Jan 15th 2013
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                                                   There's a reason I left clutch out of my post. It's semi-quantifiable
Jan 15th 2013
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                                                        people used to say that about clutch
Jan 15th 2013
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                                                             how far along are advanced stats in soccer
Jan 15th 2013
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                                                                  pretty far behind
Jan 15th 2013
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                lulz.
Jan 12th 2013
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                     the really funny thing is, hadoop and distributed computing
Jan 15th 2013
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Man, fuck this post
Jan 12th 2013
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haha, what up stah?
Jan 12th 2013
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      RE: haha, what up stah?
Jan 12th 2013
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           yeah O putting that work in. shoulda came here.
Jan 12th 2013
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                RE: yeah O putting that work in. shoulda came here.
Jan 12th 2013
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Does baseball give us a timeline for this?
Jan 15th 2013
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*likes*
Jan 15th 2013
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^^^ and then there's this.
Jan 15th 2013
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      The rough tries at it in baseball resulted in useful stereotypes
Jan 15th 2013
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I just don't know how somebody could care enough about basketball
Jan 15th 2013
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then there's that
Jan 15th 2013
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I like this answer
Jan 15th 2013
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nghs hate being wrong
Jan 15th 2013
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but its middle school math
Jan 15th 2013
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LOL
Jan 15th 2013
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so you're admitting you plagiarize your data
Jan 15th 2013
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      NOPE.
Jan 15th 2013
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           oh i get it.
Jan 15th 2013
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           If the formula is transparent and makes sense, who cares who made it
Jan 15th 2013
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           if every american understood half of basketball-reference
Jan 15th 2013
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                LOL at you bozos taking my comments to heart
Jan 15th 2013
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                     pleaes ,stop trollign us Dude thanks
Jan 15th 2013
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                     you got into this advanced analytics shit to troll Mamba posts
Jan 16th 2013
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                          stop trollign me ,Bro
Jan 16th 2013
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                     Too late to plea-cop now
Jan 15th 2013
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                          want to know how you been on OKS too long
Jan 16th 2013
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           lol
Jan 16th 2013
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lol
Jan 15th 2013
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      just for you son
Jan 16th 2013
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The Biggest Problem I Have With Some Advanced Stats
Jan 15th 2013
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lulz
Jan 15th 2013
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coach's job to motivate (c) Feel, GM's job to analyze = non-issue here
Jan 16th 2013
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not true.
Jan 16th 2013
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yeah, his job to communicate + facilitate <--- still doesn't need math
Jan 16th 2013
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      Also.
Jan 16th 2013
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Except almost no coaches see it that way right today
Aug 16th 2019
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      coaches always evaluated numbers. LoL
Aug 16th 2019
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LOL
Jan 30th 2013
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RE: Lionel Hollins goes in on analytics, nerds attack
May 29th 2018
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so did Hollinger quietly slip out the back door in Memphis or what?
Aug 13th 2019
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Slickest exit ever. No fanfare at all.
Aug 15th 2019
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