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"Most disappointing players in the SW division (swipe)"


  

          

found this after googling austin rivers after reading that Beal thread
google basically returned a bunch of articles about how wack the nigga is
but yea wish they had this for every division
take aways:
ppl outside of OKS aren't as impressed with Lins 2-3 good games a month as ppl here are
Gatekeeper of average ass PGs made the list
Allstah was right look who's #1......



Few divisions are as deep as the Southwest, but even amongst a collection of teams that features some of the highest scoring numbers in the league there are players that don’t live up to their billing.

A minimum of three teams will make the postseason from the Southwest Division and with Dirk Nowitzki’s return to the court for Dallas, there could be a push for four. The players listed below could make or break their team’s effort to get into the playoffs or they may be so irrelevant by the time the all-star break comes that they’ll have rendered observing their poor form obsolete.

10. Jeremy Lin-With a few solid performances under his belt in recent weeks, Lin has been crawling his way off of this list. However, his average of 11.7 points and 4 assists per game is not exactly an overwhelming return on Rockets general manager Darryl Morey’s investment of an extremely back loaded contract. At this point, Lin is a disappointment, but if he can show up more consistently with performances like he did against San Antonio and New York in recent weeks, he’ll be off the bust list.

9. Tiago Splitter-The Spurs have no center essentially, but it hasn’t mattered for some time when you have the greatest power forward of all time surrounded by a lot of really solid scorers in the back court. This season was supposed to be a year in which Splitter maybe claimed his place in the starting lineup alongside Duncan and gave the aging star some help on the boards, but he has earned himself just seven starts all season, averaging a paltry five rebounds per game in an average of 20 minutes played.

8. Austin Rivers-Rookies usually get a pass when it comes to criticism due to the fact they are rookies, but few come into the league with the hype of being under appreciated as much Rivers did. For all the talk about how good he would be, Rivers is averaging just under 8 points and 3 assists per game. Monty Williams is giving him plenty of chances as he averages 28 minutes per game and given the Hornets record it’s hard to see him not finding room for the rookie in his lineup. Perhaps Rivers will improve, but if these numbers continue, it’s tough to see what all the talk was about and why he seemed worthy of comparisons to the Warriors’ Harrison Barnes by some analysts at the beginning of the season.

7. Boris Diaw-Brought into help the Spurs front court score some points and be another guy to assist on the boards, Diaw got off to a slow start in San Antonio last year as he tried to settle into a new team and system after being traded midway through the campaign. This year, he has had a full offseason to work with the Spurs and the team has asked him to give them an additional presence near the basket rather just the perimeter threat he can bring. Diaw has earned himself just nine starts and averages 6 points and 3.6 rebounds per game in 23 minutes played on average.

6. Royce White-In one of the most bizarre sagas in basketball, White has yet to take the floor for the Rockets this season after the team denied him the ability to travel by bus to road games. His anxiety about flying has kept him off the court as he continues to treat it, but for fans, it’s got to be difficult to understand why he can’t at least play in home games. White was taken with the 16th overall pick in the draft and could be a key part of the Rockets lineup should the therapy ever get him squared away with the travel. Their front court needs a player capable of what White can bring, but thus far it’s been a huge let down not to see him out there.

5. Jerryd Bayless-Making the move from Toronto seemed smart once Kyle Lowry landed there, but Bayless has been less than impressive for the Grizzlies since doing so. Averaging just 5.8 points and 3.3 assists per game off the bench, Bayless has done little to support the notion that he’s a better backup than second year guard Josh Selby. He averages 17 minutes per night for Lionel Hollins who has to be at least a bit disappointed with Bayless’ production.

4. Elton Brand-The Mavericks are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league and without Brand in the lineup they’ve suffered even greater in that department. Brought into backup Dirk Nowitzki and start in his place while the Big German was absent, Brand found himself floundering on Rick Carlisle’s bench for the majority of a game even before Nowitzki made his return. Brand started 13 games for Dallas this season and has averaged career lows in points per game (6.6), rebounds (6.2), assists (1.3), field goal percentage (42%) and steals (0.7). Luckily for Mark Cuban, Brand is on a one year deal and can be let go as dead weight when the year ends.

3. Mike Conley-It might be confusing to some how Conley can be having the best scoring year of his six year career and be labeled a disappointment, but he is. With a former championship winning point guard as his coach and a solid complement of borderline stars around him, Conley averages a mere 13.8 points and 6.3 assists in 34 minutes played per game. Over the span of his career it has been expected that he would take that next step, become a premier point guard in a league run by point guards, but Conley has remained mediocre. His defense has steadily improved each season warranting patience, but his ability to run the pick and roll and build the Grizzlies into an offensively solid team has been a failure. Memphis ranks 19th in assists and 18th in total offense.

2. Robin Lopez-Taken 15th overall in 2008 by Phoenix, truthfully most of Lopez’s career has been a disappointment. He was traded to New Orleans last summer to give the Hornets a big man’s presence, but despite averaging a career best 11 points per game, he has failed to make the impact where it’s been needed most, rebounding. As a team, the Hornets are the third worst rebounding team in the league as Lopez averages just over 5 boards per game and the team ranks 20th in points in the paint, an area where he has never been particularly good at showing off his seven foot stature.

1. Darren Collison-After missing out on Deron Williams, Mark Cuban had to do something, but the deal that sent backup center Ian Mahinmi to Indiana and brought Collison to “Big D” has been a mistake. Collison is averaging 12 points and 5 assists per game as a starter and his defensive play is so weak that Rick Carlisle is now experimenting with Dominique Jones again. The team signed Derek Fisher in a desperate attempt to get Collison coming off the bench as a nice sixth man type option rather than its starter. Now, Fisher has decided he wants to be with his family and isn’t going to play anymore leaving Jones to save the Mavs from Collison’s ineffectiveness.

The Mavs are the third worst defensive team in the league, not entirely down to Collison and his 1.4 steals per game, but anyone who watches the team can see that opposing guards get into the paint too easily drawing bigs out and creating passing lanes to just about anywhere on the floor. That starts with the point guard’s ability to stop his opposition, something Collison isn’t very good at. It would be different if he were to offset it with Chris Paul-ish stats on the offensive end, but that hasn’t been the case despite him averaging 30 minutes per game.


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Most disappointing players in the SW division (swipe) [View all] , southphillyman, Thu Jan-03-13 01:13 PM
 
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lol 2nd idiot to say lin is averaging 4 assists per game
Jan 03rd 2013
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pretty sure the person who wrote this doesn't post here......
Jan 03rd 2013
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      i'm talkin bout the idiot who swiped it
Jan 03rd 2013
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           lol
Jan 03rd 2013
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           awww i've missed making you mad as shit
Jan 03rd 2013
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                i don't get it. You came in here lying cause you losing and
Jan 03rd 2013
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                     u been waiting for this back and forth since Christmas huh
Jan 03rd 2013
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                          lin shot 49% in december. that fg % steadily increasing
Jan 03rd 2013
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                               steadily increasing like the 30% he shot last night huh
Jan 03rd 2013
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                                    lol when his shot is off, he doesn't chuck up shots, finds ways
Jan 03rd 2013
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                                         damn u went from let's talk about lins shooting %
Jan 03rd 2013
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                                              yeah i really hope people are reading this
Jan 03rd 2013
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                                                   oh k. you're one of the idiots who thinks harden is holding lin back
Jan 03rd 2013
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                                                        who said anything about holding back?
Jan 03rd 2013
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Damn, I didn't know Fish had left the Mavs
Jan 03rd 2013
2
no one does, lmao
Jan 03rd 2013
4
Seems like he's done.
Jan 03rd 2013
12
i partially fault Hollins for Bayless
Jan 03rd 2013
7
Yeah, Memphis is clearly very disappointed in Conley.
Jan 03rd 2013
8
nice logical fallacy bro
Jan 03rd 2013
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Lulz
Jan 03rd 2013
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its not wrong.
Jan 03rd 2013
27
Can Elton Brand really being considered a disappointment at this point?
Jan 03rd 2013
18
yea didn't even read that paragraph
Jan 03rd 2013
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      you probably were the idiot that made this list
Jan 03rd 2013
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           you can't be this mad
Jan 03rd 2013
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                Hahahaha.
Jan 03rd 2013
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                http://i32.tinypic.com/vp9guh.jpg
Jan 05th 2013
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I'm done here:
Jan 03rd 2013
21
just based on the spurs i don't get this list
Jan 03rd 2013
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      Yeah.
Jan 03rd 2013
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           Not to pile on but the premise of the article is dumb
Jan 04th 2013
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                the premise is fine.
Jan 04th 2013
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LOL @ SWIPING THE MUSINGS OF A FUCKING IDIOT
Jan 03rd 2013
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lulz @ splitter being on this list.
Jan 03rd 2013
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Let's ignore that.
Jan 03rd 2013
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LOLOLOLOL just saw the Robin Lopez mention
Jan 03rd 2013
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If anyone it should be Kawhi
Jan 03rd 2013
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I honestly didn't see what you got out of him last year coming
Jan 03rd 2013
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      Basically, being a ball hawk and creating havoc with those mitts
Jan 04th 2013
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      He was absurdly good last year.
Jan 04th 2013
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           He's an energy player.
Jan 04th 2013
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           Is that a bad thing?
Jan 04th 2013
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                RE: Is that a bad thing?
Jan 04th 2013
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                     who cares where he shot from?
Jan 04th 2013
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                          my point is that he's suppose to be better than Bruce Bowen offensively
Jan 04th 2013
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                               Look at his FG percentages from last year.
Jan 05th 2013
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           I'm talking about improvement from LAST SEASON, which is little to none
Jan 04th 2013
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           I'm just saying if u saw him as much as I did in college
Jan 05th 2013
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                Spurs know what they're doing.
Jan 05th 2013
57
we're all stars now....in the dope show.....
Jan 03rd 2013
36
Archive
Jan 03rd 2013
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Lol seriously was this bleacher report?
Jan 04th 2013
39
Lol no, opposingviews.com
Jan 04th 2013
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This list/article is terrible fam
Jan 04th 2013
43
lol, they must have been looking at rebounds:
Jan 04th 2013
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Lol
Jan 04th 2013
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