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22. "Short-term success =\= having a program."
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>Mack Brown (UNC)= success ... 60,000+ was at the UNC/Florida
>State game in '97 ... I was there, he left for Texas
>Steve Spurrier (Duke)= success ... won ACC then left for
>Florida
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>Neither cared enough to stay long enough to build on what they
>started.

You're right that a good coach can lead a team to a winning season once or twice. But that's different than changing the culture.

>Methinks it's because they are both basketball powerhouse
>schools and less interested in fielding a big-time football
>program moreso than academic standards.

When I was there, they promoted the hell out of the program under Ted Roof. We've been trying to find that guy to build a successful program with, and have failed. That's not the same as a lack of interest. I saw them spend millions of advertising to Duke fans, Duke alumni, Durham locals... and just no one gave a shit cuz we're losers. Which goes to my next point...

>They have the money, have the cache/fanbase and conference.

We don't have the fan base. Once I went to an event in the dining hall that was supposed to be a pep rally for the football team with the coach in attendance... And I shit you not, there were more football players there than people. It was the saddest thing I've ever seen.

Duke fans simply have never cared about football. But that's changing under Cutcliffe.

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Why don't Duke and UNC have powerhouse football programs? [View all] , MALACHI, Fri Dec-28-12 03:43 PM
 
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we tried to do it big and got caught lol.
Dec 28th 2012
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ACC! ACC! ACC! ACC! ACC!
Dec 28th 2012
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i laugh because i don't care
Dec 28th 2012
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limited focus....I respect programs that are good in multiple
Dec 28th 2012
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Lol
Dec 28th 2012
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Not guilty, btw.
Dec 28th 2012
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lmao...man, that marshall's customer of the month nigga don't care
Dec 28th 2012
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still throwing black prosititute parties..... not exactly worthy of the ...
Dec 28th 2012
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are you pretending that UCLA football hasn't been shit for 15 years?
Dec 28th 2012
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      I flip sports...not schools. By definition someone who
Dec 28th 2012
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           lol
Dec 28th 2012
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Duke is a small school, but UNC I don't understand.
Dec 28th 2012
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Wake is small and they have had success recently
Dec 29th 2012
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Duke doesn't because flopping calls don't exist in football.
Dec 28th 2012
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^^^This is correct.
Dec 29th 2012
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Duke is a crazy small school with crazy high academic standard.
Dec 28th 2012
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Stanford?
Dec 28th 2012
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... that's literally exactly what I said.
Dec 28th 2012
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all that sounds nice, but it all comes down to coaching
Dec 29th 2012
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UNC was good when Mack Brown was there
Dec 29th 2012
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I think Mack realized he had hit his ceiling with UNC...
Dec 29th 2012
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      they just couldn't beat F$U
Dec 29th 2012
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Even when Spurrier was at Duke,....
Dec 29th 2012
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...& it came in his last year, also earning them a share of the ACC titl...
Dec 29th 2012
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(why doesn't) Duke have (a) powerhouse football program?
Dec 30th 2012
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Duke's gonna give Cutcliffe everything he wants.
Dec 31st 2012
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