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85. "And McDermott and GM Beane were in Carolina"
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(long post incoming...started replying to this but got ppl asking me what's wrong so I wrote up some bullshit for friends)

...To see Cam's body fall apart. And Josh's throwing shoulder is already banged up this year. He clearly isn't comfortable playing with the guardrails up. He needs to check down more, gets locked on people, every play can't be an 8 second scramble drill.

But would I trade a Super Bowl W for a shorter career for the QB? Yea I would. End of the day, it's football. Play to your strengths, kill the neuroticism. But this season, the defense is a hospital scene. Gonna have to put up points. Dont know that D can be patched together at this point. LB is a problem. Landing Rasul Douglas was a great move. New addition Linval Joseph throwing Burrow by the nuts was good to see.

Best targets are Diggs and a rookie TE. Gotta get Cook, Shakir, Harty the ball in space on easy throws. Don't have a Smoke Brown, Emmanuel Sanders burner to run gos opposite 14. Hope Shakir can be that sit down where they ain't Beasley type. Gabe disappears, shrinking violet. Stef needs to smack the introvert out of him. Never seen Gabe jaw at anyone. Too many nice guys on the team. Maybe Fournette can infuse some winning attitude? Don't know much about him.

Can't remember seeing Dorsey scheme up a screen for Cook that went for big yards. Hard to tell how much is Josh ignoring open stuff underneath and going for home run balls vs guys not being open. Definitely a combo. Lot of blame to go around. Dorsey doesn't install plays/coach well. So many little things are off, pre-snap diagnosis of defense has dropped off... whether cuz Josh can't think good and shit at the line or the coaches ain't giving him the right frameworks for thinking through it all and executing, hard to say. But often... no one but Diggs getting separation...so Josh tries to freestyle when he should be doing simple shit, taking easy checkdown yards. Offense is way better in hurry up when Josh gets to just play.

Dalton Kincaid though. Looks great. Boody and Gronk, Mahomes and Mr Swift...Joshua and Dalton K? The outlet valve. Knox has brick hands, Kincaid moves smooth and, too soon to say, but looks like he might have those big soft pigskin caressing tight end mitts. I can picture balls smacking into Gronk's gloves like bowling ball landing on a bed in a commercial. Please let Josh's balls be treated likewiser by Dalton's hands. Can I say pause? Kincaid fumble on the flip was a tough break...great punchout by the D. Was glad to see on replay it got punched out and he hadn't shit his pants and blacked out from the getting sent to space camp.

Last thing on the injury risk to QB...seems like the most damaging hits he takes are running out of the pocket toward the sideline looking to throw. When he steps up and runs for an easy 8 or 14 yards...for the most part, he's got a good feel for getting "tackled well". His instinct to subtly deke and throw people off balance is something that can't be taught. He's got a great feel for bodies in motion and how to maximize his leverage. See: running untouched for 6 on the first half TD run against Bucks Thursday night. Stopping on a dime and ducking under Sam Hubbard then skittering for the first last night. It's when he deactivates this mode and tries to go robo stand in the pocket mode that his eyes go blind. Maybe he has something in common with Russell Wilson here. They both like to extend and see the field while in motion, go braindead in drop, scan, select and fire mode. Josh Allen likes to play football. When he runs for a first down , takes a hit and pops up talking shit...the bath salts exit his pituitary and enter general circulation. His body language, his eyes at the line of scrimmage change. There was a shot in the broadcast of his eyes last night during the late Diggs TD drive. And I knew he was alive, a TD was inevitable. He plays best adrenalized. Maybe not a formula for longevity. A better coach might be able to whisper him up a better mindstate. There are clear signs they are talking down to the guy and getting him to fall in line. 13 seconds KC game...he hit insane levels. Flow-state QB perfection. Can't get there rationally. Let him go win is how a lot of us feel. Seems like they need to get out of his way and admit ain't no sense in teaching lockpicking to a grizzly bear. Let that dude claw his own way to the porridge.

His INTs feel less like him being reckless than him being extremely repressed and not being able to flip the switch on at will and hesi-hiccuping way out of rhythm. Arm tourettes trying to play within narrow confines. He plays well reckless, can feel the game, see the field when he plays his game. I think gotta get things going with the short passing game with an option to run. Long developing plays with him a duck on a leash in the pocket are not the move until he's activated and sensing well.

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Wasn't the start of Cam's shoulder trouble from him super-manning out trying to tackle a guy returning a pick? I think Josh can still run very effectively without a huge amount of risk. Make two dudes miss but then...don't end the run like Mike Alstott...the extra 3 yards ain't worth it.

  

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2023 NFL Regular Season Week 9: Burrow Brothers [View all] , Dstl1, Thu Nov-02-23 01:31 PM
 
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i don't even know what to expect
Nov 02nd 2023
1
i cant tell if theyre good
Nov 02nd 2023
2
the chargers win means a little too
Nov 02nd 2023
3
have yet to see Miami play well vs a winning team this year
Nov 03rd 2023
12
Levis is under siege tonight
Nov 02nd 2023
4
Will Levis is talented. Nice touch on his passes.
Nov 02nd 2023
5
fr i really like what i am seeing
Nov 02nd 2023
6
Absolute money on the intermediate throws tonight
Nov 02nd 2023
7
he’s better than I expected but gotdamn Steeler fans love this dude
Nov 03rd 2023
11
Only a handful of NFL guards want it with Jeffrey Simmons
Nov 02nd 2023
8
ay man that drive is a fireable offense. please go get me an offense foc...
Nov 02nd 2023
9
I was pissed watching that. Titans finally got a 'do over' card
Nov 03rd 2023
10
Can Steelers get 4 more wins?
Nov 03rd 2023
13
Packers, Cardinals, Pats and Colts.. we should win all of these
Nov 03rd 2023
14
RE: Can Steelers get 4 more wins?
Nov 04th 2023
15
      Browns and Baltimore will be W’s. We know how to control the game
Nov 04th 2023
16
           wouldn't be sure about either of those, especially Baltimore
Nov 04th 2023
18
                Baltimore is not going to have as many chances to drop passes
Nov 05th 2023
19
Bears give Sweat 4/98
Nov 04th 2023
17
Yeah, Dolphins are frauds.
Nov 05th 2023
20
RE: Yeah, Dolphins are frauds.
Nov 05th 2023
27
maybe 9 wins again. rest of their schedule is brutal
Nov 05th 2023
46
the chiefs are something else lol
Nov 05th 2023
21
This is the best defense played by the Chiefs in 4 yrs...
Nov 05th 2023
22
that joint turned out to be the winning play
Nov 05th 2023
30
      Crazy that the Chiefs couldn't score in the 2nd half...
Nov 05th 2023
31
Damn! Dolphins look helpless
Nov 05th 2023
23
I mentioned him a few weeks ago, but this McDuffie kid is a STUD
Nov 05th 2023
24
Lol, damn...he immediately proceeds to get little-man'd by Cedric Wilson...
Nov 05th 2023
25
Staff out today against the Packers...Brett Rypien whoo-ride?
Nov 05th 2023
26
he's pretty very awful
Nov 05th 2023
32
dolphins fighting back tho
Nov 05th 2023
28
…just like that…j, j, just like that (c)Masta Ace
Nov 05th 2023
29
Apparently the Texans don't need a Kicker...
Nov 05th 2023
33
im crying the Texans got their Running Back doing field goals
Nov 05th 2023
34
Btwn that and these stupid penalties...
Nov 05th 2023
36
extra points too far away smh
Nov 05th 2023
47
Baltimore fucks up another opponent
Nov 05th 2023
35
Super Bowl contenders
Nov 05th 2023
49
Most consistent team in the league right now and it feels like
Nov 05th 2023
66
      Yes, and that's how they like ir
Nov 05th 2023
67
woooow stroud. OSU finally got one
Nov 05th 2023
37
CJ Stroud has ice in his veins...
Nov 05th 2023
38
So long as licht gets fired too, I’m good
Nov 05th 2023
40
      Agreed.
Nov 05th 2023
50
RE: woooow stroud. OSU finally got one
Nov 05th 2023
42
What was that dumb ass test talking heads said CJ Stroud failed?
Nov 05th 2023
39
S2
Nov 05th 2023
41
That's so fucking grimey.
Nov 05th 2023
43
right lol. the only guy who failed is actually good
Nov 05th 2023
48
i just want to know what owner is invested in it
Nov 05th 2023
62
more evidence that Brady Quinn is a whole BITCH
Nov 06th 2023
79
CJ Stroud has a 15:1 TD-INT ratio. Lmao. Wild.
Nov 05th 2023
44
Buckeyes finally have a QB in the NFL who looks legit
Nov 05th 2023
45
24-0 Raiders at the half. they hadn't scored more than 21 all season
Nov 05th 2023
51
to not be able to finish out your second season
Nov 05th 2023
55
      i hate that guy like it's a hobby
Nov 05th 2023
64
I’d like to get a little more pressure on Hurts…but, no complaints f...
Nov 05th 2023
52
….and that’s exactly why
Nov 05th 2023
53
Bryce…OOF!
Nov 05th 2023
54
LOL @ Dobbs whoooo-ridin' on ATL...
Nov 05th 2023
56
If they reverse that TD, game over
Nov 05th 2023
57
i remember Dak being faster than that
Nov 05th 2023
58
      Yeah, before his leg bone came through his sock...
Nov 05th 2023
59
Need one more, Defense
Nov 05th 2023
60
Smh...such a blatant hold to not call...fuck, man.
Nov 05th 2023
61
When you can't get convert 1st and Goals...you bound to drizown
Nov 05th 2023
63
oh Dak. so many chances to be clutch and pull it off
Nov 05th 2023
65
Stephon is such a special player.
Nov 05th 2023
68
I know they playing w/ that taunting call lmao
Nov 05th 2023
69
lol it was absolutely pathetic
Nov 06th 2023
80
21-7, Bengals @ halftime...
Nov 05th 2023
70
Raiders have another interim HC who will win games and the locker room
Nov 05th 2023
71
we make the playoffs somehow, i think Davis will do the right thing
Nov 06th 2023
77
LOL @ the Raiders...
Nov 05th 2023
72
team energy is so different
Nov 06th 2023
78
I am who I thought I was
Nov 05th 2023
73
Buffalo sucks
Nov 05th 2023
74
RE: 2023 NFL Regular Season Week 9: Burrow Brothers
Nov 05th 2023
75
Forget about hypothetical injuries
Nov 05th 2023
76
that only lasts so long, see Cam Newton...
Nov 06th 2023
81
      Yeah but they at least got a SB appearance out of that run.
Nov 06th 2023
83
     
           its tricky
Nov 06th 2023
86
1st and 5 from 6 yard line....
Nov 06th 2023
82
that was...not good
Nov 06th 2023
84
      Absolutely no excuse for that…especially in that spot
Nov 07th 2023
92
Zack Wilson is getting beat to shreds….
Nov 06th 2023
87
Zach has no internal clock
Nov 06th 2023
88
Should have traded for dobbs
Nov 07th 2023
91
      stepped off the plane right onto the fucking field
Nov 07th 2023
93
           if only they could play the Falcons every week
Nov 07th 2023
94
Eagles thoughts: the back 7 are eating the poo-poo on defense
Nov 07th 2023
89
Jets went 3-17 on 3rd down, 8 sacks, 2 strip sacks..
Nov 07th 2023
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