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Frank Longo
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1. "The Scoot-can't-shoot shit is overblown, imo."
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Thu Jun-22-23 04:37 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

https://twitter.com/Sam_Vecenie/status/1671518857721266179?s=20

He shot 32.4% from the NBA line in the G-League as what should've been a freshman in college. I'm not going to say that's lighting up the perimeter, but, like, if Scoot had shot 36% from 3 in college against worse competition, people would say "he can potentially be a good shooter," but if you shoot between 32 and 33 percent from the NBA line against grown men *and* prove you can shoot at a *very* high-level from the mid-range *and* show an impressive floater game... you get labeled a non-shooter by people (especially people who didn't watch the G-League).

Like, Brandon Miller's obviously the better shooter from distance, especially off the catch, but he also struggled with separation some against more athletic college defenders, he struggled to finish at the rim for a guy who's 6'9... it's not like Miller doesn't have questions to his offensive game as well.

Everyone needs a 3-and-D wing in today's NBA, so I'm also high on Miller for that exact reason (absolutely zero reason he should escape the top 3)... but I think (a) people grossly under appreciate how much harder the G-League is than college basketball, and (b) plenty of teams also need lead guards who have an elite combination of skill, motor, and top-5th-percentile-in-the-NBA athleticism. He's strong as hell, he creates for himself and others, he has a beautiful handle... like, there's just *so* much to love about Scoot's game imo.

And while it's true that 6'2 isn't a height where we've seen a lot of PGs have major success... we've also very rarely seen 6'2 guys with his intersection of length (6'9+), strength, athleticism, and body control. Like, Derrick Rose was 6'3 with a 6'8 wingspan-- and Scoot absolutely has Rose's athleticism and strength. (He also has more mid-range pull-up and floater game and isn't as much of a barrel-into-defenders guy, so you'd like to think he's less of an injury risk than a player like Rose.)

As for the fit questions, because Melo is tall and shoots the ball well, I definitely think you can play the two of them together (although that pair would work a lot better if Melo ever chose to give a fuck on defense lol). For Portland, Dame and Scoot... is definitely tougher, but you can't pass on Scoot for, like, Cam Whitmore or whatever. If you're at 3, and you don't think Scoot is *your* dude, you just trade back.

And a Scoot-for-Zion trade... I mean, look, there's a lot we don't know behind the scenes in New Orleans, but if they're just *over* all the Zion stuff, especially because Zion seems to be over them? I think you could do a lot worse than getting Scoot, lol. I don't know what else they can get in that deal due to Zion's injury concerns to date... but I think Scoot has very, very high potential, and you're more likely to extract max value in the draft in a Zion trade at this point than for actual players imo. Teams will be too coy with genuine proven star assets due to Zion's injuries and the overwhelming feeling that Zion demanding an exit is probably coming sooner rather than later, lol.

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2023 NBA Draft Poast [View all] , ThaTruth, Thu Jun-22-23 04:09 PM
 
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      Also it’s funny to me that people been shitting on Westbrook…
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10
           I mean no one is denying Russ had great years
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           Some people and some posters do lol
Jun 22nd 2023
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                like who?
Jun 25th 2023
42
           you think washed and bummy year 14 Russ is the comparison?
Jun 23rd 2023
41
Yall watching ESPN of ABC?? Cuz..
Jun 22nd 2023
3
the abc one is really lacking.
Jun 22nd 2023
8
We didnt even get the ABC one
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13
The Thompson Twins (c) parents pockets not curvy, lol.
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Jackpot
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im underwhelmed
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6
Not to be confused with Jason and Ryan Thompson
Jun 22nd 2023
15
Looks like we're getting Cason Wallace off of Dallas for...
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7
I don't like Whitmore in Houston.
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9
i didnt like whitmore at all at 5
Jun 22nd 2023
11
Trading down and adding another pick sounded good though
Jun 22nd 2023
14
It mean Kevin Porter is going going ....
Jun 22nd 2023
18
after the following fell off the board
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Who signs Drew Timme?
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19
we know
Jun 23rd 2023
30
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Jun 23rd 2023
20
Two way deal with the Bulls. That will work for him.
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Top guys who didn’t hear their name called:
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21
i love all the Drew Timme uproar lol.
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23
      Right, it hilarious
Jun 23rd 2023
27
      Same with Oscar Tshiebwe.
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36
Two years in a row we had a first round pick and no NCAA tournament
Jun 23rd 2023
24
damn lol...
Jun 23rd 2023
25
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
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He's a MAGA clown from Kentucky , never liked him to begin with nm
Jun 23rd 2023
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We had two in the first round with no tourney :(
Jun 23rd 2023
29
Does he like the Titanic like that?
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31
      Our basketball program is the Titanic of collegiate hoops
Jun 23rd 2023
32
           idk about that...the Titanic actually had a rep when it crashed
Jun 23rd 2023
33
                Touché
Jun 23rd 2023
34
watch Scoot be the star of this draft..
Jun 23rd 2023
35
I think so too, I think Chet will be better than Wembanyama as well nm
Jun 23rd 2023
37
lol I obviously agree
Jun 23rd 2023
38
      Pop basically invented “load management”
Jun 23rd 2023
40
Man, Miller has his work cut out for him in CHA lmao
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39
bunch of misfits on this roster
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