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16. "Who in the world is voting for Vanderbilt? lol"
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Vanderbilt was ranked 81st in the NET, 80th in KenPom. They were 5-11 in Quad 1 games, had two Quad 3 losses and a Quad 4 loss (at home to Grambling State!). The vast majority of their wins were single digit ones, including against a lot of *really* bad teams. They just weren't good all year. Beating a mediocre Kentucky team twice in ten days and catching Tennessee after their nightmare skid began doesn't really move the needle for me.

If anything, I would've gone Rutgers over Nevada. Wins at Purdue, at Penn State, at Northwestern-- massive road wins that show you can beat the best, those are always teams I want to go to bat for. At 35th, Rutgers is the highest rated team in KenPom to not make the dance. That said? They have four Quad 3 losses. Like... you can't do that if you want me to think you were snubbed. Nevada has *one* win away from home against Top 90 opponents, against New Mexico, and they have two Quad 3 losses-- they probably shouldn't have been in either. And they'd be an underdog to Rutgers on a neutral floor.

But really, this is where I'd take my soapbox to advocate for getting rid of the First Four. Pitt, Mississippi State, Nevada, Arizona State-- none of these teams are *really* good enough for the dance imo.

The only time a team is *really* snubbed is when they win a Saturday conference tournament game, barely lose the championship on Sunday, and don't get in because the tournament pretty openly just doesn't consider the Saturday and Sunday games when it comes to seeding. Like, Texas A&M last year had a decent argument to be called a "snub"... but even then, they lost, like, 7 games in a row in conference play. It's just hard to feel good about your chances when that happens.

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biggest NCAA Tournament snub? [View all] , ThaTruth, Mon Mar-13-23 12:41 PM
 
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None of the above. They all had flaws
Mar 13th 2023
1
soooo...who?
Mar 13th 2023
2
No one
Mar 13th 2023
3
Turned their nose up at the NIT. Hilarious… who the hell do they think...
Mar 13th 2023
4
      it makes perfect sense that UNC turned that down, assuming...
Mar 13th 2023
6
           I missed this story. What happened?
Mar 13th 2023
7
           local sports radio predicted they would turn it down
Mar 13th 2023
10
                two of the best players were smashing the same girl...
Mar 13th 2023
11
                     Good grief, sucka shit.
Mar 13th 2023
14
                     supposedly, RJ Davis is with one of the gals from the womens team
Mar 13th 2023
15
No such thing as a snub.
Mar 13th 2023
5
LOL - Need 100 teams in a football playoff tho
Mar 13th 2023
8
I was surprised NC State made it in over Clemson
Mar 13th 2023
9
me too...but we also have no pedigree in hoops to get the edge ever
Mar 13th 2023
12
      Clemson lost by 10 to Louisville. That did it by itself.
Mar 13th 2023
17
I hate college basketball
Mar 13th 2023
13
watch your mouth.. Pitt deserved to get in
Mar 14th 2023
18
Pitt is the worst at-large to make the dance.
Mar 14th 2023
19
this Quad shit isn’t law... lol
Mar 15th 2023
20
      Right this mf quoting quad and kenpom like it’s the gospel lol
Mar 15th 2023
21
           So I shouldn't use a team's resume, nor should I use statistics.
Mar 15th 2023
23
                Until recently most people had never heard of those metrics and…
Mar 15th 2023
25
                And which metrics did they use this year?
Mar 15th 2023
26
                     we know you hate Stackhouse but his program is on the come up
Mar 16th 2023
33
                          I agree! His future looks promising.
Mar 16th 2023
34
                you’re giving that FSU loss a bit too much energy
Mar 15th 2023
28
                     Not a lot of at-large teams have a worse loss, tbh.
Mar 15th 2023
30
Michigan blasting Pitt by 30 feels like it happened in a different seaso...
Mar 15th 2023
27
      it was a looooong time ago.
Mar 15th 2023
29
we're talking about the 68th best team in the country
Mar 15th 2023
22
      lol fair enough, I suppose
Mar 15th 2023
24
Nevada looked like shit yesterday
Mar 16th 2023
31
Understatement
Mar 16th 2023
32
PSU won 22 games and barely snuck in as a #10 seed. I’m not
Mar 17th 2023
35
Iowa was overseeded imo.
Mar 17th 2023
36
but Pitt lost to FSU
Mar 17th 2023
37
lol
Mar 17th 2023
38
Vandy goes on a 9-0 run in 58 seconds to beat Michigan in the NIT.
Mar 18th 2023
39
does anybody know the KenPom and Quad rankings of the Final Four teams?
Mar 31st 2023
40
22, 25, 41, 129
Mar 31st 2023
41
he's lucky you memorized that with google being down
Mar 31st 2023
42
      Alta Vista came thru in the clutch
Mar 31st 2023
43
KenPom rankings: 1, 14, 17, 22
Apr 01st 2023
44
      This is disingenuous
Apr 01st 2023
45
Are we blaming/crediting quad rankings for this years tourney
Apr 03rd 2023
46
It's just a year with tremendous parity imo.
Apr 03rd 2023
47
      well, that’s my question
Apr 03rd 2023
48
           If anything, it'd likely lead to *more* upsets imo.
Apr 03rd 2023
49

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