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My only real concern about Gates is that, in the three years he's had at Cleveland State, he's shown the propensity to be a good mid-major coach. The teams have been good enough the last two seasons to be a contender for a Horizon title without ever looking like a GREAT mid-major. Take Lamont Paris at Chattanooga this year, for example, by comparison... if you can take a mid-major to a top 75 KenPom ranking, you're gonna raise eyebrows. Gates never cracking 150 in three years, while maybe it's just a byproduct of him still being relatively new, doesn't exactly scream "he's ready already to take the leap."

The FSU background is nice, because Hamilton's quite a good coach... but he's also never been a Title Program coach. While Gates was there, they went to, what, 1-2 Sweet 16s? And it's not like they've lacked for talent during that time, there were plenty of pros there. So it's not like hiring an assistant from a top 5-6 program, where you think "holy shit, this guy's got serious upside"...

I just don't think, if getting fans excited about the program again is the goal, that an assistant coach from a Top 20 program who's had two good Horizon League seasons is that guy. Maybe I'm crazy.

And maybe they just liked the money value, like you said. Maybe for the price, Gates is the best coach available, that's certainly an option. I'm just surprised there aren't any boosters they can go to to beg for more money, lol. And maybe they aren't looking for a home run swing, they just want a guy who can get them back to something resembling consistent bubble-team quality. Gates could be that guy, certainly. And maybe they know something about his acumen that we just haven't seen in his HC work to date. I just think most of the SEC is nabbing sexy picks from the mid-majors, so having the least sexy hire when you're trying to get fans to care again... just feels like a missed opportunity.

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College Basketball Coaching Carousel 2022 [View all] , Frank Longo, Sun Mar-20-22 12:31 PM
 
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About Mizzou
Mar 20th 2022
1
      Mizzou doesn't really have boosters like the other SEC schools
Mar 21st 2022
12
           Interesting-- thanks for all this info.
Mar 21st 2022
13
Tennessee assistant Michael Schwartz to East Carolina
Mar 20th 2022
2
Not sold on Willard at all.
Mar 20th 2022
3
Tony Skinn hired as an assistant, good pick.
Mar 21st 2022
14
Someone please up this when Underwood gets fired,
Mar 20th 2022
4
RE: Someone please up this when Underwood gets fired,
Mar 21st 2022
7
      Underwood is an outstanding recruiter. That’s his main
Mar 21st 2022
8
looks like Kansas State had something brewing.
Mar 20th 2022
5
you forgot one...
Mar 20th 2022
6
He'll get one more.
Mar 21st 2022
9
Lamont Paris to South Carolina.
Mar 21st 2022
11
LaVall Jordan out at Butler.
Apr 01st 2022
15
Thad Matta to Butler! Holy shit!
Apr 03rd 2022
16
      and today he hired Greg Oden and Jon Diebler....
Apr 20th 2022
17
           lmao
Apr 20th 2022
18
SHAMS BOMB! Jay Wright likely retiring this offseason????
Apr 20th 2022
19
Cut the crap Jay. See you on the circuit this summer.
Apr 20th 2022
20
It's reported everywhere: Jay Wright out. Kyle Neptune in.
Apr 20th 2022
22
      Wow, Unbelievable. Blindsided everyone.
Apr 20th 2022
23
whoa.
Apr 20th 2022
21
maybe the only rival program coach I ever liked
Apr 20th 2022
24
1& dones had college coaches on the ropes NIL was the nail in the coffin
Apr 20th 2022
25
Bob Huggins (UC),Tubby Smith(@UK), Thad Matta, Jim Calhoun & Jay Wright
Apr 20th 2022
26
60 is way too young for retirement as a coach
Apr 21st 2022
27
Report: Wright is not just done at Villanova, he’s done coaching.
Apr 21st 2022
28
      he was a hot name on NBA lists a while back may be a last itch to scratc...
Apr 21st 2022
29
Jay Wright open to potential NBA job, just not right now:...
Apr 26th 2022
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