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10. "Hot take: more talk about gambling would *help* sports journalism."
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Vegas line setters are the ones who know the most about the analytics, know the most about matchups, know the most about trends and injury impact. They overreact the *least* to small sample sizes. They understand the most how variance impacts the sports, and how wins and losses are not necessarily indicative of a team's actual strength of performance on the whole. The best sports podcasts on the whole tend to be the ones who don't predict heads up wins and losses, but instead predict performance against the spread. I find those host far more nuanced conversation than the ones that spend thirty minutes on what LaVar Ball said this week or if LeBron is the GOAT or not.

As an example, it drives me *crazy* when you see the 20th ranked team play the 12th ranked team at home, be a 3-4 point favorite, win the game, and hear everyone call it an "upset" afterward solely based on rankings-- which are set completely arbitrarily by a set of sports journalists who designate their rankings based on whatever personal preferences they have, some of which are borderline insane. It genuinely hurts a casual fan's ability to understand the game.

If more casual sports fans could understand the value of watching the game on a deeper level than "this team is ranked higher, so they should win," or "this guy is the star, so he needs to carry his team to victory, otherwise he's a loser," then the discourse would be a thousand times better. Any gambling-related shenanigans that go down will go down irrespective of gambling's legality.

(I also realize the Value Of Discourse is totally subjective, and many people would rather listen to the LaVar Ball/is Bron the GOAT stuff than listen to a nerdy, nuanced breakdown of game matchups. So this is completely just my own personal pet peeves pouring out here, lol.)

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I think gambling is ruining sports journalism [View all] , Castro, Fri Jun-04-21 11:59 AM
 
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If you don't get too greedy it seems pretty easy to do
Jun 04th 2021
1
I had the same thought about college...
Jun 04th 2021
3
      if you spread out your bets across different sites/bookies, don't always
Jun 04th 2021
4
Not sure about journalism, but it definitely hurts sports radio
Jun 04th 2021
2
Explain the journalism part
Jun 04th 2021
5
I can see a few areas of either annoyance or problems
Jun 04th 2021
6
RE: I think gambling is ruining sports journalism
Jun 05th 2021
7
I agree
Sep 23rd 2021
15
There have already been several point shaving incidents in the NCAA
Jun 05th 2021
8
we know.
Jun 07th 2021
9
      LOL
Mar 07th 2022
24
I loved when Bill Simmons used to have Haralobob on the pod
Jun 07th 2021
11
That is exactly what is fucking up the sports page.
Jun 08th 2021
12
      I'd argue all those things increase the understanding of the sport.
Mar 07th 2022
23
Adam Schefter investing in gambling company......
Sep 23rd 2021
13
I guess I’m slightly desensitized to this because gambling has been
Sep 23rd 2021
14
He should either divest or step down from his position.
Sep 24th 2021
16
yeah its crazy ESPN has whole shows devoted to gambling.
Sep 24th 2021
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They should.. sports are popular primarily for gambling purposes
Sep 24th 2021
18
      a lot of sports fans don't care about gambling
Sep 24th 2021
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           I know.. I’m one of them
Sep 24th 2021
21
Look at how this story was framed.
Sep 24th 2021
19
Calvin Ridley. nm.
Mar 07th 2022
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RE: Cavs HC J.B. Bickerstaff reveals personal threats from gamblers
Mar 21st 2024
25
This embracing of gambling is not going to end well
Mar 21st 2024
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      Yup, and everyone's already in way, way too deep
Mar 21st 2024
27
           You're right
Mar 21st 2024
31
whole reason for sports is gambling
Mar 21st 2024
28
they advertise on every major sports podcast now too
Mar 21st 2024
29
NC just passed sports gambling March 11. Every billboard
Mar 21st 2024
30
How do we know it hasn't ruined sports outcomes?
Mar 21st 2024
32
NFL has blatantly influenced games
Mar 21st 2024
33
Do you really want to know the answer? (ESPN swipe)
Mar 26th 2024
34
      Damn, he better find a translator fast
Mar 26th 2024
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           lmao
Mar 26th 2024
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           translator is the new weed carrier
Mar 26th 2024
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           lmao
Mar 27th 2024
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RE: I think gambling is ruining sports
Mar 26th 2024
38
Apple came out with a nice Sports app for iOS. Clean interface,
Apr 09th 2024
40
noticed that as well, it's tedious
Apr 09th 2024
41
Dave Zirin weighs in:
May 13th 2024
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