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43. "RE: Idk if I'd call it arrogance, but I partially agree"
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>The reason I partially agree is that I believe he did wanna show
>another wrinkle against Garcia, but I don't think he had a
>choice with Porter. When Porter is on you, he forces you to
>fight inside. There are points in this fight where Spence is
>trying to move away, but Porter will not get off him. I'm
>thinking of a specific point in round 9, but it happened
>multiple times. I can imagine that, at some point, trying to
>stay away from dude is just too much work... very similar to
>what we were seeing with opponents of Jarret Hurd prior to the
>J-Rock fight. Austin Trout was outboxing the fuck outta dude,
>but he got tired and said 'fuck it' and had to stay in the
>pocket more. Same with Lara even tho is game plan included
>more in-fighting. It looked pretty clear to me that Spence
>WANTED to box from a distance, but Porter ain't letting that
>shit happen lol. Garcia was trying to get inside on him but
>didn't have the quickness or the strength, the feints, the iq,
>etc.
>Overall, I think Spence deciding to bang on the inside with
>Porter was more of an adjustment that Porter forced him to
>make rather than one that he made with the intention of
>proving anything. I think he did it either because it was
>easier than trying to box, trying to box was too tired, or
>both.
>

Both Lara and Trout even at this point in their careers were much better boxers than Hurd. I think that was always his plan to eventually overwhelm them with his size and strength. Hurd does not have boxing advantages over anybody at the elite levels. He is a more athletic Margarito. I think Hurd does have some boxing ability and we will see more of it should he fight Williams again but he is not as polished as the guys at the top. He did not have an extensive amateur career and it kind of shows.

Spence on the other hand is a much better boxer than Porter. I said from the beginning I don't see any advantages for Porter. Showtime is at his best pressuring fighters. I think Errol is more effective at that because he is a heavier puncher but Errol doesn't have to just pressure guys. This is why I feel like he chose to stand there and trade to prove a point. You can make the case that both Thurman and Garcia did a better job controlling distance against Porter than Spence. He attempted to impose his will on them as well but both refused in large parts to fight on the inside and attempted to maintain distance. I wouldn't say Thurman or Garcia are most polished boxers than Spence. But you could say both of them stayed true to who they were against Porter even though Garcia came out of the short end.

  

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Errol Spence Jr vs Shawn Porter | PBCFOX 9.28.19 (fight week) [View all] , Boogie Stimuli, Tue Sep-24-19 01:18 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Forgot to mention this is a unification fight
Sep 24th 2019
1
Just hope Porter doesn't hold and punch with his head all fight...
Sep 24th 2019
2
I got Spence by TKO
Sep 24th 2019
3
Errol by tko
Sep 24th 2019
4
pre-fight presser
Sep 25th 2019
5
Thanks for posting that
Sep 26th 2019
6
these brothas came to bang.
Sep 28th 2019
7
Great fight but I had it clear for Spence
Sep 29th 2019
8
I had it a draw, but can understand the decision.
Sep 29th 2019
9
      No one looks good against Porter... Lol
Sep 29th 2019
10
           Ugas looked better against him than Errol did
Sep 29th 2019
16
Didn't agree with the decision...but I understand
Sep 29th 2019
11
Word. I can feel that.
Sep 29th 2019
18
People who think this was a close fight
Sep 29th 2019
12
^ yep
Sep 29th 2019
13
Exactly
Sep 29th 2019
14
It was a hard fought match
Sep 29th 2019
15
We can disagree w/o accusing one another of knowing nothing
Sep 29th 2019
17
*correction* I should say "more noticeable"
Sep 29th 2019
19
How did Porter CONTROL most of the fight?
Sep 29th 2019
22
      Interesting that u can accuse others of knowing nothing about boxing
Sep 29th 2019
24
           What did Porter do to control a MAJORITY OF THE FIGHT
Sep 29th 2019
25
                Again, you get your answers when you can show some maturity.
Sep 29th 2019
26
Badou Jack says it was a close fight btw
Sep 29th 2019
20
      Badou Jack blocks punches with his face
Sep 29th 2019
21
           Ah ok, you're just making stuff up to save face.
Sep 29th 2019
23
           I also just remembered you said Loma didn't dominate Rigo
Oct 03rd 2019
39
Humility
Sep 30th 2019
27
This is a really interesting take on the fight(s)
Sep 30th 2019
32
Idk if I'd call it arrogance, but I partially agree
Oct 03rd 2019
40
     
I had it 114 113 Shawn
Sep 30th 2019
28
After calling Shawn "dirty" over & over in the lead-up to the fight
Sep 30th 2019
29
That was just promotion though
Sep 30th 2019
33
      I'm not convinced
Oct 01st 2019
35
So Shawn threw less landed less but out worked
Sep 30th 2019
30
Wasn't really a good or close fight in my opinion. Porter's style doesn'...
Sep 30th 2019
31
Troy King (pro boxer and boxing teacher) on why Shawn won iho
Oct 01st 2019
34
^^^ this is what I saw
Oct 01st 2019
37
      These points you make...
Oct 03rd 2019
41
We want Spence rematch or Crawford next - Kenny Porter
Oct 01st 2019
36
Teddy Atlas scored it a draw
Oct 03rd 2019
38
That's fair.
Oct 03rd 2019
42

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