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denny
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39. "I admit it's conjecture."
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Sun Jun-25-17 02:20 AM by denny

          

And I also cede that you know alot more about college basketball than me so I'm just throwing this out there

Take it to a logical extreme....suppose that a player needs to play college ball for four years before being eligible for the draft. This would DEFINITELY help the rich teams and would hurt the poor teams. Just imagine what the starting lineups of teams like Kentucky and Duke would look like if they didn't lose players to the draft. They would probably be pretty close to NBA calibre.

The most significant advantage that rich teams have is attracting the most talented high school players. That advantage is only mitigated by the one-and-done rule. Poor teams might recruit a guy much less talented than someone like Wiggins....but they will have that player for the full 4 year stint. So even though the player is less talented...he ends up contributing WAY more to the program in the aggregate than the hugely talented guy who only plays for a season. I'd argue that this is really the only way the smaller schools can compete. They get less talented guys but for a longer period of time.

So again...the logical extreme is the rich school throws out the most talented team of first year players against a poorer school that has a roster of much less talented, yet more experienced 3rd or 4th year players. The only advantage the poor school has is experience and team-building (in the form of systems, strategy, familiarity that is enhanced by multiple years of playing together). If you take that away...the rich schools would dominate to a greater degree. Coach K is undoubtedly aware that even adding one year to the one-and-done rule would help his team immensely.

  

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Coach K wants to change NBA one-and-done rule; not what you’d expect..... [View all] , ThaTruth, Fri Jun-23-17 09:01 AM
 
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nah that's exactly what i'd expect
Jun 23rd 2017
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obviously, he's right..
Jun 23rd 2017
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Looking at the Warriors who are the current model "superteam" that...
Jun 23rd 2017
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From his perspective
Jun 23rd 2017
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This has openly been his stance for years now.
Jun 23rd 2017
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Errr... almost good
Jun 23rd 2017
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I don't even like Coach K really but I kinda agree with him here...
Jun 23rd 2017
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I don't think an extra year of classes...
Jun 23rd 2017
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      I somewhat agree, but right now most of these one and done guys...
Jun 23rd 2017
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Agreed.
Jun 23rd 2017
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Its a lose-lose situation for college coaches and NBA GM's so its wouldn...
Jun 23rd 2017
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I think that admitting the NCAA is a "stakeholder"...
Jun 23rd 2017
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I think a full-fledged "minor-league" system has been resisted up until....
Jun 23rd 2017
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Right - the current system works okay for them
Jun 23rd 2017
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      RE: Right - the current system works okay for them
Jun 23rd 2017
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      That makes a lot of sense
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           RE: That makes a lot of sense
Jun 23rd 2017
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                I may not have done "being a 19 year old" correctly
Jun 23rd 2017
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                     I would've fucked that shit up so badly I would've been out of the leagu...
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      This bit was factually inaccurate, fwiw:
Jun 23rd 2017
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           I didn't say never, I said rarely, the core guys those teams have...
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                One last reply for Walleye here:
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                     Right, the 2 most successful franchises currently are "anecdotal"
Jun 23rd 2017
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100%.
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      RE: 100%.
Jun 23rd 2017
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I bet NBA gms are the best in drafting out of all the sports.
Jun 23rd 2017
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      based on what? lol
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      Two thoughts:
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      RE: Two thoughts:
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           Not sure how that works.
Jun 23rd 2017
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      that's because it's easier to pick NBA players.
Jun 23rd 2017
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I don't agree with him but it seems like a fair compromise
Jun 23rd 2017
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Lol... he sharking what Cal said on this too?
Jun 23rd 2017
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Coach K does not care about educating players
Jun 23rd 2017
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Of course we all know he has ulterior motives, most coaches hate...
Jun 23rd 2017
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bro what in the blue fuck are you talking about?
Jun 23rd 2017
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      I'm not your bro and FROM THE ARTICLE:
Jun 23rd 2017
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           K, broham, but nah.
Jun 24th 2017
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I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COACH 1 AND DUNZ... HALP!
Jun 25th 2017
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Right, I mean he's only won two national titles in the one-and-done era
Jun 25th 2017
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