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In any professional sports league's amateur draft is a permanent obstacle to clearing college sports of exploitation. The only thing that unofficial relationship does is bind the labor of players to the colleges who profit.

>I wonder if college coaches who propose that inclusion are
>feeling pressure from the pros-- that the NBA wouldn't
>eliminate one-and-done without some sort of restrictions in
>place in a vain and laughable attempt to "protect" the
>chickenshit NBA GMs who instituted one-and-done in the first
>place because they were shitty at their jobs. Of course, the
>league gets younger and younger, and the GMs are still mostly
>shitty at their jobs, so it hasn't worked and was doomed to
>not work from the start... but their chickenshittiness
>remains.

Shit. I kind of forgot that was pretty much why that round of restrictions were adopted. The funny thing is that, if they were bold, the NBA could fashion a full minor league system like baseball's that could:

a)shake loose the weirdly informal-yet-inviolable relationship they have with the NCAA

b)hedge against the development problems that come freighted with teenage talent

c)profit off ticket sales/merch while players develop

d)ensure that players were maximally productive while on NBA rosters

It's like they were too scared to just accept the risk of drafting 18 year olds *and* too scared for a big, blunt solution to that problem.

>Whether it's scared NBA GMs, scared NCAA execs, or greedy NCAA
>coaches, there's still no real and right reason to eliminate
>the players' option to leave at their discretion.

So, there's always going to be an ebb and a flow in the amount of talent in the NCAA. And those ups-and-downs obviously have something to do with the draft rules. But I've always kind of figured that a lot of the enterprise of big money NCAA sports is actually supported by sentimentality. That people care about Ol' Miss because of the laundry and not because of the aggregate talent in x, y, or z college sports. And that means that NCAA basketball maybe doesn't need to be protected as zealously as it is. Does that make sense? I'm perfectly open to be told I'm wrong here.

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Coach K wants to change NBA one-and-done rule; not what you’d expect..... [View all] , ThaTruth, Fri Jun-23-17 09:01 AM
 
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nah that's exactly what i'd expect
Jun 23rd 2017
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obviously, he's right..
Jun 23rd 2017
2
Looking at the Warriors who are the current model "superteam" that...
Jun 23rd 2017
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From his perspective
Jun 23rd 2017
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This has openly been his stance for years now.
Jun 23rd 2017
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Errr... almost good
Jun 23rd 2017
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I don't even like Coach K really but I kinda agree with him here...
Jun 23rd 2017
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I don't think an extra year of classes...
Jun 23rd 2017
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      I somewhat agree, but right now most of these one and done guys...
Jun 23rd 2017
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Agreed.
Jun 23rd 2017
9
Its a lose-lose situation for college coaches and NBA GM's so its wouldn...
Jun 23rd 2017
10
I think a full-fledged "minor-league" system has been resisted up until....
Jun 23rd 2017
13
Right - the current system works okay for them
Jun 23rd 2017
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      RE: Right - the current system works okay for them
Jun 23rd 2017
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      That makes a lot of sense
Jun 23rd 2017
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           RE: That makes a lot of sense
Jun 23rd 2017
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                I may not have done "being a 19 year old" correctly
Jun 23rd 2017
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                     I would've fucked that shit up so badly I would've been out of the leagu...
Jun 23rd 2017
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      This bit was factually inaccurate, fwiw:
Jun 23rd 2017
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           I didn't say never, I said rarely, the core guys those teams have...
Jun 23rd 2017
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                One last reply for Walleye here:
Jun 23rd 2017
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                     Right, the 2 most successful franchises currently are "anecdotal"
Jun 23rd 2017
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100%.
Jun 23rd 2017
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      RE: 100%.
Jun 23rd 2017
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I bet NBA gms are the best in drafting out of all the sports.
Jun 23rd 2017
15
      based on what? lol
Jun 23rd 2017
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      Two thoughts:
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      RE: Two thoughts:
Jun 23rd 2017
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           Not sure how that works.
Jun 23rd 2017
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                I admit it's conjecture.
Jun 25th 2017
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      that's because it's easier to pick NBA players.
Jun 23rd 2017
34
I don't agree with him but it seems like a fair compromise
Jun 23rd 2017
36
Lol... he sharking what Cal said on this too?
Jun 23rd 2017
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Coach K does not care about educating players
Jun 23rd 2017
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Of course we all know he has ulterior motives, most coaches hate...
Jun 23rd 2017
33
bro what in the blue fuck are you talking about?
Jun 23rd 2017
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      I'm not your bro and FROM THE ARTICLE:
Jun 23rd 2017
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           K, broham, but nah.
Jun 24th 2017
38
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COACH 1 AND DUNZ... HALP!
Jun 25th 2017
40
Right, I mean he's only won two national titles in the one-and-done era
Jun 25th 2017
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