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denny
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37. "It's relative."
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Sat Feb-20-16 11:32 AM by denny

          

An actuary from 2016 who went back in time to 1950 would absolutely destroy the marketplace. The reason that advanced mathematical analysis doesn't often bare fruit is because there's such a small window until the others figure out what he's doing.

Advanced analysis only benefits you if the opposition isn't doing it. In fact....like you point out below...calling something 'advanced' isn't intrinsic in the content of the analysis. The only rational reason to call something 'advanced' is because noone else is doing it yet/it hasn't been done before.

If you can create a unique stat that predicts future behavior that noone else uses....you have a market advantage until someone else figures out what you're doing.

In hockey...analytics are the reason the players are getting smaller and the goons are getting kicked out of the league. Teams are starting to come to terms with the fact that they've overvalued size and toughness as it pertains to winning. It's been analytics that have caused that change.

  

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Shocking News: Oldest Manager in Baseball hates analytics (swipe) [View all] , Cenario, Thu Feb-18-16 10:33 AM
 
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Zing?
Feb 18th 2016
1
More proof that managers barely matter
Feb 18th 2016
2
I don't think this is just old managers
Feb 18th 2016
3
Or that analytics barely matter.
Feb 18th 2016
5
      tell that to the Phillies
Feb 18th 2016
6
           Or the Mets, who were in the World Series
Feb 18th 2016
7
           And who built the team using analytics
Feb 18th 2016
8
                And Alderson is treated like John the Baptist in Moneyball
Feb 18th 2016
9
                Wrong. Team was built with the Dickey trade and Cespedes
Feb 18th 2016
10
                     it's ok. you're old and don't want to pay attention anymore
Feb 18th 2016
14
                     Alderson, DiPodesta, and Ricciardi are all statheads
Feb 18th 2016
15
                     Sooooooo three players got the Mets to the series. Got it.
Feb 19th 2016
27
                          See Mets pre-Cespedes. See Mets post-Cespedes
Feb 19th 2016
29
           Phillies had a sneaky good winter
Feb 18th 2016
11
                how long will that take to translate into Ws?
Feb 18th 2016
12
                     I'm always early on these things - but still a few years at least
Feb 18th 2016
13
                          ah i got you...so need to be worried.
Feb 18th 2016
16
you dont need analytics to tell u to pull Harvey after leadoff BB in 9th
Feb 18th 2016
4
it's always funny how "anti-analytics" people still wanna use stats
Feb 18th 2016
17
i also love the we like good players "gotcha" moment
Feb 18th 2016
18
That's actually the definition of "useless"
Feb 18th 2016
20
      even 'useless' knowledge gets the sport closer to a deeper truth
Feb 19th 2016
24
      Sports analytics is centuries behind economics
Feb 19th 2016
28
          
      why would it need to change the view of EVERY player to be successful?
Feb 19th 2016
30
           Yoga has change SOME players' careers
Feb 19th 2016
34
                why you wouldn't see the difference between more stats and yoga
Feb 19th 2016
36
John Feinstein just wrote an ugly anti-stat piece
Feb 18th 2016
19
yea i read that
Feb 19th 2016
23
Microsoft has made radar guns obsolete
Feb 19th 2016
25
dumbest part was his criticism of statistical projections
Feb 19th 2016
33
Funny how "pro analytics" folk think everything is "advanced"
Feb 18th 2016
21
http://i.imgur.com/gMnMB0Q.jpg
Feb 19th 2016
22
LMAO. OPS is like the Kenny G of "advanced" baseball metrics
Feb 19th 2016
26
You act like Billy Beane was quoted as saying "fuck pitchers"
Feb 19th 2016
31
it's always funny when they act like OPS is some esoteric advanced stat
Feb 19th 2016
32
      Nope. OPS and PER = Higgs Boson and Gravity Wave detector
Feb 19th 2016
35
      IT wasn't whether the stats existed before.....
Feb 20th 2016
38
           Yeah, because the book lied.
Feb 20th 2016
39

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