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19. "let me put it like this, outside of the article."
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Ray and Sam are similar talents. Similar does not even "same", however they were more alike than they were different.

the narrative created around why Sam isn't in the NFL has never been about his on field production, because he didn't have any in the NFL outside of the preseason(where he actually did well, considering he was going against 2nd and 3rd string offensive line personnel.)

Ray is a dynamite prospect, and a clear top pass rusher in the draft. No one disputes that. Faster measureables than Sam, clearly. However, the narrative constructed around Sam has been as if to say that he so way slower, shorter, and less dynamic than Ray, or than any worthy prospect for that matter.

There are a slew of receivers that come out every year, and they all are trying to hit 4.4 or better at the combine to land that first round grade. Plenty of them only hit in the 4.5s. And some of those, tho productive, just can get that first round grade. But them registering a 4.5 instead of a 4.4 doesn't equal going from the first round and dropping to the 7th. Sam was a better prospect than a 7th rounder. His measureables aren't that far off from Ray. Ray is used to show that compared to his first round grade, Sam should not have slipped to the 7th round, AND virtually be out the league. Fowler just tore his ACL, and the Jags need pass rushing. Let's see if they give Sam a call.

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Chatty Patty Compares 2 Men, Like A Boss (Sam/Ray Debate) *link* [View all] , Mr. ManC, Thu May-07-15 04:20 PM
 
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I've been saying it for since back then...
May 07th 2015
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yeah, there is no way he shouldn't have at least
May 08th 2015
3
Weirdest part is that he was pretty good in preseason
May 08th 2015
6
      Didn't he have like the *most* sacks in preseason?
May 08th 2015
7
TALK, ABOUT. IT.
May 07th 2015
2
he played well in the preseason games too, not even getting a camp invit...
May 08th 2015
4
in no way do i deny that homophobia played a massive role w/ Sam
May 08th 2015
5
not a terrible comparison at all.
May 08th 2015
8
dawg, the comparison obfuscated and hid important facts
May 08th 2015
13
      the point of the article isn't so say who is a better prospect.
May 08th 2015
14
           yeah, no one on the planet thinks he's as good as Shane
May 08th 2015
15
           oh, word? that's not the point of the linked post?
May 08th 2015
16
                um, bruh do you have CTE?
May 08th 2015
17
                     ad hominem? yeah, you clueless on basic logic.
May 08th 2015
18
                         
as someone who watches all Mizzou games...
May 08th 2015
9
      exactly.
May 08th 2015
10
      Anybody that has watched them knows Ray is light years ahead of Sam....
May 08th 2015
11
           all that is fine, but how does someone who is a first round
May 08th 2015
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