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16. "oh, word? that's not the point of the linked post?"
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a post with the subtitle: "The similarities between Michael Sam and Shane Ray - former teammates and defensive ends at Missouri - are striking. Distractions? Ray has a drug charge and Sam is gay. Ray was a first-round pick while Sam went in the last round. 1 + 1 = 2."

the post that says that they "performed nearly identically." or "Yet the wide discrepancy between the draft positions of these two men does not reflect their minuscule differences in size, strength, speed and college production."

you're right. it's not saying they're really similar quality draft prospects at all. nowhere does it say that.

the post thinks its clever because it saw some numbers were similar, but either the author of it is mathematically illiterate, knows nothing about football/drafts, or both. i think it's both. it's a shame, because this only hurts the argument--it's far too easy for someone who is homophobic and knows football (or stats) to dismiss the claims in that post because he makes apples to oranges comparisons and uses percentages to make differences that are meaningful (it's only a 10% difference! that doesn't matter--if 10% is the difference between a tackle and a missed tackle, 10% is enough).

the similarities aren't striking. They were CLEARLY at different levels as pro prospects based purely on how they performed in college and how they performed at the combine and pro days.

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Chatty Patty Compares 2 Men, Like A Boss (Sam/Ray Debate) *link* [View all] , Mr. ManC, Thu May-07-15 04:20 PM
 
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I've been saying it for since back then...
May 07th 2015
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yeah, there is no way he shouldn't have at least
May 08th 2015
3
Weirdest part is that he was pretty good in preseason
May 08th 2015
6
      Didn't he have like the *most* sacks in preseason?
May 08th 2015
7
TALK, ABOUT. IT.
May 07th 2015
2
he played well in the preseason games too, not even getting a camp invit...
May 08th 2015
4
in no way do i deny that homophobia played a massive role w/ Sam
May 08th 2015
5
not a terrible comparison at all.
May 08th 2015
8
dawg, the comparison obfuscated and hid important facts
May 08th 2015
13
      the point of the article isn't so say who is a better prospect.
May 08th 2015
14
           yeah, no one on the planet thinks he's as good as Shane
May 08th 2015
15
          
                um, bruh do you have CTE?
May 08th 2015
17
                     ad hominem? yeah, you clueless on basic logic.
May 08th 2015
18
                          let me put it like this, outside of the article.
May 09th 2015
19
as someone who watches all Mizzou games...
May 08th 2015
9
      exactly.
May 08th 2015
10
      Anybody that has watched them knows Ray is light years ahead of Sam....
May 08th 2015
11
           all that is fine, but how does someone who is a first round
May 08th 2015
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