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76. "What part of "did you watch him in college" did you not understand?"
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A big man with an NBA body who works hard in the paint is different, in regards to how his defensive abilities translates, from an undersized point guard.

Let me rephrase so that I'm clear, as someone who watched him in college:

- He is physical, not just for college, but for the NBA
- He works hard in the paint, not just for college, but for the NBA
- He has terrific lateral quickness and agility for his size, not just for college, but for the NBA

There is a reason he was a projected lotto pick before the injuries. Actually, there were several reasons. And of those reasons, a number of them were for what he can do to you down low on defense.

You say he'd get called for fouls all the time-- I don't doubt that early as a pro, he will struggle with this, as many hard-working bigs do. But he's a high IQ team player who works hard, and I'm sure he will learn. He's not Danny Fortson. (Plus, when it comes to physical play, the refs let big men bang around more than they allow excessive contact on the wing-- bangers are still a huge commodity in the pros.)

McBob, Lee, and Love are all very different than McGary, because McGary's upside as a player isn't as a scorer/shooter, and Love/Lee are huge liabilities on defense, so it's weird to compare him to them. "A better Nick Collison" is probably the best comparison to current NBA players. Collison did more in college than McGary, but he had more time in college to showcase his skills-- I have no doubt McGary's numbers if he could've stayed on the court would've bested Collison's in college.

His motor, his toughness, his outstanding nose for the ball on the glass, his ability to set vicious legal picks and be in the right place at the right time, his ability to score on putbacks, cuts, pick and rolls, and getting back on transition offense before the other guys his size can-- all adds up to high value in the pros, especially in an age when very few teams have high-motor big men of McGary's level of toughness. He may never be the guy who throws the team on his back, but he's the guy who can win you games.

Literally all of this hinges on his ability to stay healthy, which is a very legit question mark, btw. Hence why he slipped. But if McGary had been healthy last year, I would've been stunned if he'd fallen out of the lotto in this draft, and probably not even out of the top ten. You can't really teach the stuff McGary can bring to a team.

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Orlando Summer League Post [View all] , dgardfrey, Fri Jul-04-14 11:18 PM
 
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Marcus Smart vs Napier right now
Jul 05th 2014
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I"m all in. Looks like me and this couch will be attached all day
Jul 05th 2014
2
My Marcus Smart = Born Ready comparison looks promising
Jul 05th 2014
3
Quick observations:
Jul 05th 2014
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Noel looks impressive finishing down low
Jul 05th 2014
6
Nerlens looks FANTASTIC.
Jul 05th 2014
7
you really think he'll be able to play four?
Jul 05th 2014
18
He's WAY taller than I thought he was
Jul 05th 2014
23
      6' 7.5" barefoot at the combine
Jul 05th 2014
31
           I said Shawn Marion, but even he was VERY clever with the floaters
Jul 05th 2014
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           Marion was also one of the better FT shooters in the league
Jul 05th 2014
33
                Goodness. Didn't know that about either of them. n/m
Jul 05th 2014
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           Dude is Josh Smith 2.0 w/ a better IQ
Jul 05th 2014
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                LOL. Perhaps the wost comparison I've ever seen in my life.
Jul 06th 2014
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                     I'm referring to 19 yr old Josh Smith
Jul 06th 2014
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                          Just stop it. Milsap might be a WORSE comparison than JR Smith.
Jul 06th 2014
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                          I'm comparing his WORK ethic to Paul Millsap NOT his game
Jul 06th 2014
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                               I don't think you've ever watched a single game, ever
Jul 06th 2014
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                                    Marion couldn't trigger plays nor locked down any elite player
Jul 06th 2014
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                          speaking of work ethic Millsap just had the worst OREB yr of his career
Jul 06th 2014
48
                               Uhhhhhh..the Hawks want him to play OUTSIDE the paint
Jul 06th 2014
50
I told y'all Bazz was going to end up being no better than Rio
Jul 05th 2014
39
Yours
Jul 06th 2014
42
Pierre Jackson may have torn his achilles
Jul 05th 2014
5
Very sad
Jul 05th 2014
10
Officially torn
Jul 05th 2014
14
LMAO. Aaron Craft picking pockets already
Jul 05th 2014
8
he'll need at least one more skill to qualify tho
Jul 05th 2014
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I actually agree.
Jul 05th 2014
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      he prolly wouldn't have made the team before the Jackson injury
Jul 05th 2014
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      there is not a guard in the nba with an offensive skill set that bad
Jul 05th 2014
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           Shit, there weren't many in college much worse
Jul 05th 2014
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                im trying to come up with a name...and failing
Jul 05th 2014
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SMDH @ Seth Curry just launching wet jumpers like nuffin
Jul 05th 2014
9
I'd love to see him make a squad this year.
Jul 05th 2014
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      See no reason Seth can't Patty Mills widdit
Jul 05th 2014
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Victor Oladipo is a new age African
Jul 05th 2014
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Dumb athleticism
Jul 05th 2014
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      Not really...he's not all that explosive really
Jul 05th 2014
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looks like philly is tanking summer league too.
Jul 05th 2014
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practice makes perfect
Jul 05th 2014
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Noel's summer league debut was as encouraging as Turner's was depressing
Jul 05th 2014
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pretty much.
Jul 05th 2014
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I am cysed as shit right now
Jul 05th 2014
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If by tanking you mean winning the chip, then yes.
Jul 11th 2014
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And umm ISIAH IS SECOND TO NONE with the B-Ball IQ and insight
Jul 05th 2014
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Nick Johnson looks legit
Jul 05th 2014
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damn...lookin like his pops on that one...
Jul 05th 2014
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Noel looks nice.... he and Embiid
Jul 05th 2014
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No one talking how dope Plumlee looked tho?
Jul 05th 2014
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No one care. NERLENS
Jul 06th 2014
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Dude, he's dope.
Jul 06th 2014
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I noticed. ive got hella plum-dogg stock.
Jul 06th 2014
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Like night and day for Shabazz from game 1 to 2
Jul 06th 2014
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Kentavious Caldwell-Pope dominating so far
Jul 07th 2014
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2nd year lotto pick.....not surprised
Jul 07th 2014
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James Young officially out for summer league, Ainge says #tank
Jul 07th 2014
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Mitch McGary looking like a top 5 pick
Jul 07th 2014
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Yep.
Jul 07th 2014
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Skita was summer league MVP, so was Josh Selby. He's in Croatia now.
Jul 07th 2014
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      Yeah, I didn't even see the game. I just mean his talent.
Jul 07th 2014
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      RE: Yeah, I didn't even see the game. I just mean his talent.
Jul 08th 2014
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           ... did you watch him play in college?
Jul 08th 2014
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                what part of "at the NBA level" did you not understand?
Jul 08th 2014
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                he was being projected as late lotto in the '13 draft
Jul 08th 2014
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                He was expected to do what he did in the tourney for a whole season.
Jul 08th 2014
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                     yea either way i think he and adams can bring nasty physicality back
Jul 08th 2014
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                          right, he's an extra 6 fouls off the bench, not sure why people are...
Jul 08th 2014
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                               lol you are kinda mad
Jul 08th 2014
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                                    I am? nah, people just do this every year on here with summer league lol
Jul 08th 2014
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                RE: What part of "did you watch him in college" did you not understand?
Jul 08th 2014
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                     I'm not sure there is a player exactly like him today.
Jul 08th 2014
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                interesting comparisons lol
Jul 08th 2014
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                RE: ... did you watch him play in college?
Jul 08th 2014
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      skita and selby did well in summer league as veterans
Jul 07th 2014
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      RE: skita and selby did well in summer league as veterans
Jul 08th 2014
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      McGary is a big man who hasn't played in a year
Jul 08th 2014
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           the bottom line is every year there are a lot of guys that get overhyped...
Jul 08th 2014
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                That goes for college too. That goes for everything, really.
Jul 08th 2014
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                But we're talking about summer league right now. Which is literally FIVE...
Jul 08th 2014
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                     Dog. I said McGary looks like at top 5 pick. He does.
Jul 08th 2014
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                          RE: Dog. I said McGary looks like at top 5 pick. He does.
Jul 08th 2014
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                               Dog..I can say that he looks HEALTHY at least breh
Jul 08th 2014
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                yea lamb looks like a man among boys every summer league lol
Jul 08th 2014
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                     Dude you learned after Bellinelli in the mid 2000's
Jul 08th 2014
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                     "and another one"(c)C.Wallace
Jul 08th 2014
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                     i don't know his numbers from that summer league off top but to be
Jul 08th 2014
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                          I think he might've even put up a 40. It was all that...
Jul 08th 2014
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                     The hype begins during Pre-Season..anything else before it is just junk
Jul 08th 2014
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I wish the Bulls drafted him and young
Jul 08th 2014
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RE: I wish the Bulls drafted him and young
Jul 08th 2014
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      Well, since McDermott is 5 to 10 times the shooter Harris is...
Jul 08th 2014
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i said it before the draft: if you passed on McGary after top 10
Jul 08th 2014
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Payton gave Nick Johnson a reality check
Jul 07th 2014
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Nerlens ballin'
Jul 09th 2014
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Miami got this bol named Tyler Johnson... kid is nasty
Jul 10th 2014
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Sixers win the chip!!!!
Jul 11th 2014
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WE DA BEST
Jul 11th 2014
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