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29. "I think he's truly elite"
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First, I do reject the idea that Pacquiao was dominant in their fight, even if some people act like it's a crazy notion. Pacquiao did *not* land that often against Bradley, regardless of what compubox says. And Bradley had two injured feet, which often seems to be forgotten or ignored.

The only guy who has landed against Bradley consistently was Prov, and that's because in that fight, Bradley *deliberately* chose to abandon the skills that make him elite--ring IQ and elusiveness. That he beat Marquez more decisively than anyone sans Mayweather is only confirmation of his status IMO.

It's not that Bradley has done nothing but win--or his persona--that makes him elite. Danny Garcia is not elite IMO, and he has those qualities too. It's that Bradley has insane, almost unparalleled reflexes and is harder to hit cleanly than almost any other fighter alive--when he chooses to be. And he is an extremely smart fighter--when he chooses to be.

To me, the reason he's not considered elite seems to be that the skills that make him elite are subtle and not eye-catching. That's probably why he was never considered a prospect in the first place--he didn't blow people out of the water with speed like Gary Russell or Jesse Magdaleno, and he definitely didn't flatten people like Wilder or Golovkin. He just landed his punches and slipped those of his opponent. And he still does, better than almost anybody on earth--when he chooses to. That's it.

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Stones. Rocks. Subways. Blocks.

  

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Bradley-Pacquiao II Face Off (video) [View all] , abstractionism, Sat Mar-22-14 12:32 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Damn, I want to see this fight now
Mar 22nd 2014
1
"Those who exalt themselves will be humbled"
Mar 22nd 2014
2
only time he made prolonged eye contact too
Mar 24th 2014
4
Can't wait!
Mar 23rd 2014
3
tim was in there really trying to use head games on manny
Mar 24th 2014
5
lmao Bradley talking about 8-4 in the 1st one thats funny
Mar 24th 2014
6
this fight is kind of underrated
Mar 24th 2014
7
yup, first fight was controversial.
Mar 25th 2014
19
This is the first fight in a long time...
Mar 24th 2014
8
Can we talk about Bradley's shirt tho lol
Mar 24th 2014
9
http://cdn1-www.ringtv.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2014/02/Pacquiao-B...
Mar 25th 2014
18
      You gotta coordinate
Mar 25th 2014
20
Funniest part is "You're Bradely? You got the 8 rounds?"
Mar 24th 2014
10
lol I know right?
Mar 25th 2014
15
its a wrap for manny if he loses
Mar 24th 2014
11
Yup, Manny's American PPV career will be over if he loses
Mar 25th 2014
21
I had it 7-5 bradley
Mar 24th 2014
12
Your last name Bradley? Because he ain't win a round.
Mar 25th 2014
14
cmon
Mar 25th 2014
16
Watched it 10 times and Pacquiao missed a lot of shots
Mar 25th 2014
23
Had it 7-5 Pacquiao
Mar 25th 2014
22
cmon dog
Mar 26th 2014
24
7-5
Mar 27th 2014
35
As did I.. mofos was listening to the commentary instead of watching the...
Mar 27th 2014
37
      RE: As did I.. mofos was listening to the commentary instead of watching...
Mar 27th 2014
38
           dawg, Manny was doing poot dust for 2 1/2 minutes of most rounds
Mar 27th 2014
41
                ok - but what was Bradley doing during that time?
Mar 28th 2014
42
                     I think it would be really interesting to do a round-by-round post
Mar 28th 2014
44
                          MAKE THAT POST
Mar 28th 2014
45
                               Time permitting I will
Mar 28th 2014
46
                               HERE YA GO
Mar 28th 2014
47
                               HERE YA GO
Mar 28th 2014
48
Bradley lyin his ass off about that first fight
Mar 24th 2014
13
Yo...this just SOLD me on this fight. Call me a sucka or
Mar 25th 2014
17
Can you only "Face-Off" if you sit like AC SLater?
Mar 26th 2014
25
seriously what the fuck is that seat backwards shit
Mar 26th 2014
27
LMAO at this visual
Mar 27th 2014
36
Lmao
Mar 30th 2014
50
Side question: Does Bradley have a false sense of elitism?
Mar 26th 2014
26
he dominated solid B level fighters though
Mar 26th 2014
28
agreed.
Mar 26th 2014
30
      Oh, that part
Mar 26th 2014
32
RE: I think he's truly elite
Mar 26th 2014
31
      RE: I think he's truly elite
Mar 26th 2014
33
i think so he had good wins but he is not elite
Mar 27th 2014
34
I think he needs this fight to prove his elitism.
Mar 27th 2014
39
If Bradley & Pacquiao is NOT elite...that only leaves 1 boxer doesn't it...
Mar 27th 2014
40
There are a handful of fighters I'd consider elite.
Mar 28th 2014
43
Verdict is out for me. Bradley is *very* good, but not elite.
Apr 13th 2014
56
its almost sad the false reality Bradley lives in
Mar 30th 2014
49
Bradley only has one issue which is he has no punching power
Mar 30th 2014
51
      Overall, I feel the same abt his punching power but I did see him hurt
Mar 30th 2014
52
           Bradley has had just one stoppage win since 2007
Mar 30th 2014
54
So, if Bradley wins again, what are y'all gonna say?
Mar 30th 2014
53
lol
Apr 13th 2014
55

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