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"the NBA's #1 offense has a guy setting the record for midrange attempts"
Wed Jan-01-14 02:28 PM by celery77

  

          

Welcome to 2014!

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2014_ratings.html

The Portland Trail Blazers are leading in points per game (108.3) and points per 100 possessions (114.06). Their leading scorer is also the most active midrange player in the league by a fairly wide margin. From a recent Kirk Goldsberry article* regarding the Blazers' offensive effectiveness:

"So far this season, Aldridge has taken 339 midrange shots — repeatedly violating one of the key tenets of Morey’s efficiency-minded stratagem. As a team, Morey’s Rockets have tried only 292.

This midrange fascination is not new. Last season, Aldridge attempted 795 midrange shots, by far the most in the league (DeMar DeRozan was second with 628)."

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/1218/grant_r_lamarcus-aldridge_mb_1152x830.jpg

Isn't this exactly what the analytics minded people decided is the worst way to structure an offense? Midrange shots are the worst shot in basketball, it's simple math they said. But here we are, at the dawning of a new year, and by every available measure -- advanced and otherwise -- the NBA's #1 offense is structured around the highest volume midrange shooter in the league.

Thoughts? Suggestions? How could such a thing happen when science had already solved the midrange riddle and decreed it dead?



*http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/86478/courtvision-rip-city-bravado

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the NBA's #1 offense has a guy setting the record for midrange attempts [View all] , celery77, Wed Jan-01-14 02:27 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
He Should Be Taking More Threes
Jan 01st 2014
1
Morey is an ass clown.
Jan 01st 2014
2
It's a lost art. I'd love to see the midrange J become relevant again
Jan 01st 2014
3
Whoops. Misread. Edit.
Jan 01st 2014
4
This just makes me think how melo needs help
Jan 01st 2014
5
Nope. JR Smith is plenty help (c) OKS
Jan 01st 2014
7
eh, i dunno, i mean let's not get too carried away here
Jan 02nd 2014
43
http://oi48.tinypic.com/2j5ylad.jpg
Jan 01st 2014
6
Swiping from an analytic guy to shit on analytical
Jan 01st 2014
8
or effective midrange is a useful component of strong floor spacing
Jan 01st 2014
10
      You said it yourself right here, LA isn't the norm
Jan 01st 2014
12
           right, but their use of midrange does NOT make them inefficient, either
Jan 01st 2014
14
                I agree completely with that, spacing is a huge aspect of effective offe...
Jan 01st 2014
17
                     + smart teams like OKC seem content for Ibaka to assume that role
Jan 01st 2014
20
Aldridge is an obvious outlier...c'mon
Jan 01st 2014
9
or LA is re-creating Dirk's role from the also successful Mavs ... c'mon
Jan 01st 2014
11
You are talking ALL STAR bigs who can shoot from 18+ ft effectively
Jan 01st 2014
15
      better ? ---> how many bigs should ADD an 18-fter based on this data?
Jan 01st 2014
18
Y'all KILL me with this "outlier" shit
Jan 01st 2014
23
espeically when you can point to top 10 NBA offenses with shooting bigs
Jan 01st 2014
25
7 foot effective mid-range shooters are an outlier.
Jan 01st 2014
27
      It's Not Just 7 Footers Though
Jan 01st 2014
28
      ^
Jan 02nd 2014
33
      Well, then Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Dirk and Lebron are "outliers"
Jan 02nd 2014
29
           Kobe, Shaq, and Bron are 7 footers w an effective mid-range?
Jan 02nd 2014
30
           Don't bother with these dudes
Jan 02nd 2014
31
           No, dumbass. U can say any unique combination of skills = an "outlier"
Jan 02nd 2014
34
                i mean unique is pretty much ipso facto an outlier
Jan 02nd 2014
40
                     guys, it's not that difficult.
Jan 02nd 2014
52
                          right, "Magic / MJ / Shaq are outliers, no point studying their game"
Jan 02nd 2014
53
                               Its what I call "Billy Beane envy"
Jan 02nd 2014
55
                                    the major focus of the book is replacing giambi, damon, etc.
Mar 23rd 2014
61
                                         LMAO...this is false
Apr 24th 2014
71
           The owners are the ones giving analytics its power
Apr 24th 2014
69
                LOL -- teams/owners have been using statistics forever
Apr 24th 2014
70
                     Yep. Especially when they bring up market dynamics
Apr 24th 2014
72
                     ^^ didn't want to jinx it before, but SoulHonky kills it right here ^^
May 03rd 2014
74
                     No you don't
Apr 24th 2014
73
RE: Aldridge is an obvious outlier...c'mon
Jan 02nd 2014
44
      You nailed it right here
Jan 02nd 2014
48
You DO know the trail blazers lead the league in made 3s yeah?
Jan 01st 2014
13
yup ---> SPACING!
Jan 01st 2014
16
      So how is this an argument against analytics?
Jan 01st 2014
19
           it's not; it's an argument against "midrange is the worst shot in bball"
Jan 01st 2014
21
                The fact that he plays C 50% of the game changes the argument though
Jan 01st 2014
22
                     LA actually doesn't play C at all this year -- that's Lopez + Freeman
Jan 01st 2014
24
                     Hahaha so the "midrange = bad" is true, except when it isnt?
Jan 02nd 2014
35
                     He does not play that much at C anymore, they got two new centers
Jan 02nd 2014
41
it's spacing and better pieces but HIS offense is down this year
Jan 01st 2014
26
i see both sides of this argument.
Jan 02nd 2014
32
mid range game was the foundation for one of the most dominant offensive
Jan 02nd 2014
36
hi guys
Jan 02nd 2014
37
lol
Jan 02nd 2014
38
Smooth shut the fuck down
Jan 02nd 2014
42
so you'd agree: replace LA w/, let's say, Boogie, 'zers O would improve?
Jan 02nd 2014
45
LA has always been comfortable letting others do the dirty work for him
Jan 02nd 2014
47
      it's LA's worst efficiency, but most ppg + easily most team success
Jan 02nd 2014
49
      the argument against midrange game is all about shooting percentage thou...
Jan 03rd 2014
57
      He's also doing more dirty work bc he has more energy to do it
Jan 02nd 2014
51
The point is: Many of those three opportunities are due to Aldridge
Jan 02nd 2014
50
http://tinyurl.com/lpwvowf
Jan 02nd 2014
54
daaamn
Mar 23rd 2014
63
I still consider the mid-range shot an effective option
Jan 02nd 2014
39
exactly -- the interesting point of it is the spacing question
Jan 02nd 2014
46
Right, so like everything else, it works when it works
Jan 02nd 2014
56
Regression to the mean is a bitch
Mar 22nd 2014
58
^nerdtastic uppage
Mar 22nd 2014
59
they do it to themselves (c) thom dogg
Mar 23rd 2014
60
this link would be in every OKS post
Mar 23rd 2014
62
groin issues, it's not that complicated
Mar 23rd 2014
64
Would Morey's head explode if PDX wins this series?
Apr 24th 2014
65
Like clockwork
Apr 24th 2014
67
      Had to be done.
Apr 24th 2014
68
Even I'm impressed with my ethering in this post. Good grief.
Apr 24th 2014
66
I saw Blake Griffin taking 3s v GSW the other night; explain that to me.
May 03rd 2014
75
real talk: Team Analytics overplayed its hand
May 03rd 2014
76
RE: real talk: Team Analytics overplayed its hand
May 04th 2014
78
shorter, still correct version:
May 04th 2014
81
Another key adv for the 4 and 5 shooters is in the pick and roll
May 04th 2014
79
Guinness still losing after fading into bolivian.
May 03rd 2014
77
Better timed departure: him or Basa?
May 04th 2014
80

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