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Thu Feb-21-13 04:14 PM by vee-lover

  

          

>I can't deal with dumb shit like this

Explains why you invariably OVERanalyze your point but its cool

>
>At least get the categories right

Categories? Seriously?

>You didn't even do that

Because its irrelevant to this topic lol

>>(Usually) are really outstanding and some even great
>>defensive players


>>Hakeem
>>Manute
>>Mutombo
>>Deng
>>Ibaka
>
>You listed 5 players, and among them, there are 3 reasons
>that they are good defenders:

The *reason* why they're good defensive players is because they put forth the effort on that end of the floor, plain and simple...nothing else because defense is all abt effort and desire and less abt any physical attributes a given player or players might possess. Makes me think african born players are coached early on w/an emphasis on defense because its the one aspect of the game that you don't need tons of athleticism to excel at, only effort and a willingness to exert yourself. They're coached (I think) to their strengths (just like they are in soccer); I think the same can be said of the euro players w/fundamentals and outside shooting.

>Deng and Ibaka - Bammas
>
>Hakeem - springy leaper, among the best footwork
>and positioning of all time, timing
>
>Mutumbo, Manute: Two of the tallest players with
>the longest reaches in league history. Both also
>had good timing
>
>And Oladipo is a bamma in the Deng case
>
>He's more like Ron Artest than any African

He's only like Artest in that both like playing defense. He's eons more athletic and nowhere near as big a body.

>Mark Eaton was more like Mutumbo and Bol than Olajuwon or
>Ibaka was either of them.
>
>
>>It seems like that's a constant w/their skillset just like
>>Euro players are usually good jump shooters.
>
>LOL
>
>For every Drazen Petrovic there is a Sarunas
>Marciulionus (slasher).

Well allow me to recalibrate my statement: for all the African players that CAN PLAY, being a good defensive player is commonplace in their overall skillset.

>And when you throw in Spain, then everything gets thrown
>off, since Marc Gasol is good specifically because he's
>like the only old school banging 7 footer in the league
>and Ricky Rubio is John Wall-lite horrid shooter
>
>White Americans are actually the group with the highest
>fraction of good jumpshooters.
>
>Europeans (and Argentinians) are actually reknowned for their
>
>slashing and around-the-rim ability: Tony Parker, Ginobli,
>etc.

Euro players have never been known for putting the ball on the floor creating their own shot or being slashers, Ginobili (and Parker too) is an exception and doesn't qualify since he's latin America. If you recall, the alleged reason for the nba implementing the zone was to accomodate the euro players who were more outside shooters.

>>Its been awhile since I can recall a college player having a
>>nose for the ball like Oladipo. He's really the best player
>on
>>that squad, not Zeller.
>
>Then just make a post about him

I established both points
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>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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Watching Victor Oladipo Made Me Realize All The African Players [View all] , vee-lover, Thu Feb-21-13 02:29 PM
 
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nigga, you named the good ones...
Feb 21st 2013
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Imsay'n, I ride for my fellow mother landers, but bball ain't
Feb 21st 2013
4
You brought up Ajou Deng but not Eric Boateng?
Feb 21st 2013
7
      DAMN, YOU BE CANDYMANNING, DOGG!!!!
Feb 21st 2013
9
      SMASH! SMASH! SUUUUUUHMASH! (c) Hitchiker Kai
Feb 21st 2013
11
           lol
Feb 21st 2013
37
      I got friends who came up playing club ball in England
Feb 21st 2013
12
      Yup, Jim Calhoun talked shit all year when Deng arrived
Feb 21st 2013
31
      My story of Boateng at Duke:
Feb 21st 2013
13
           THATS IT. IVE HAD IT. *Logs Off*
Feb 21st 2013
14
           LOL
Feb 21st 2013
38
           well, see, this is funny.
Feb 21st 2013
16
           If the last line of that story isn't The American Dream, I dunno what is
Feb 21st 2013
20
           LMAO
Feb 21st 2013
21
           ahahahahaha
Feb 21st 2013
23
           lmao
Feb 21st 2013
24
           I didn't even expect this goodness...LMAO. Thank you Frank!
Feb 21st 2013
30
I thought they didn't have them fast twitch muscles tho? That negro
Feb 21st 2013
2
victor got that iverson mix...them IIa and IIb fast twitches
Feb 21st 2013
8
it's different in east/west africa
Apr 09th 2013
50
RE: Watching Victor Oladipo Made Me Realize All The African Players
Feb 21st 2013
3
All black guys named "Alonzo" are great at defense too.
Feb 21st 2013
5
lmao
Feb 21st 2013
15
Alonzo Gee, also good at defense
Feb 21st 2013
17
      If only this theory translated to the movies too
Feb 21st 2013
25
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Feb 21st 2013
6
Lol...you was so mad you touched like 5 continents.
Feb 21st 2013
10
with five Africans behind me ready for whatever
Feb 21st 2013
19
ummm....oladipo is american born
Feb 21st 2013
22
yes but if you're familiar w/his story, its probably similar
Feb 21st 2013
27
      i have problems with the ethnic chauvinism inherent in that claim
Feb 21st 2013
28
           DAT 'NISM!
Feb 21st 2013
32
                he kinda was. i just wanted to post the dunking dutchman
Feb 21st 2013
33
                     the alias is even more awesome
Feb 21st 2013
34
                          Alias??
Feb 21st 2013
35
                               dont need more people
Feb 21st 2013
39
What about Steve Nash?
Feb 21st 2013
26
Oladipo made me realize that long-armed Africans are good defenders.
Feb 21st 2013
29
lol
Apr 09th 2013
54
LOL. This is the culmination of selective attention
Feb 21st 2013
36
That must be why Nigeria lost by 60, huh?
Feb 21st 2013
40
Louisville's Dieng helps prove my assertion n/m
Apr 09th 2013
41
LOL. That tall, long, springy athletes are often good defenders?
Apr 09th 2013
42
ok so why are there tons of american born, 'springy,' athletic
Apr 09th 2013
45
      http://tinyurl.com/aezpos4
Apr 09th 2013
51
      Let's see...
Apr 09th 2013
53
I was dyin at the dimes he was droppin
Apr 09th 2013
43
      Yeah, apparently Africans are outstanding passers from the post too.
Apr 09th 2013
44
           africans have a genetic predisposition to share. look at how they eat
Apr 09th 2013
46
           *spits out coffee*
Apr 10th 2013
58
           lmao except yinka dare
Apr 09th 2013
47
                olowakant-he
Apr 09th 2013
48
A lot of them are late comers to the game from another sport
Apr 09th 2013
49
This is a long, not-that-interesting conversation
Apr 09th 2013
52
      Well I mean consider the source but actually ...
Apr 09th 2013
56
what about Maktaar Ndjaye? LOLz
Apr 09th 2013
55
lmao, oh fuck i havent heard that name in so long that
Apr 10th 2013
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