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As news spread over the weekend that USC quarterback Matt Barkley would not throw at the NFL scouting combine this week, two NFL personnel men had a similar, withering reaction.


"Here we go again, another L.A. movie star quarterback who needs his own day to throw," a veteran scout said, the sarcasm splashing from his mouth like a wave hitting a seawall.

"And you wonder why guys from Southern California ?" a veteran team executive said, referring as much to the region as to Barkley's alma mater. "Everything is like they have to draw attention to themselves."

When it was pointed out to the executive that Barkley supposedly hasn't been cleared to throw by doctors, the anger only seemed to grow, not subside.

"I'm telling you, it's always with guys from down there… not just USC, the whole area. I don't know what it is."



Whatever it is, the concern about quarterbacks who have come out of everywhere from Santa Barbara to San Diego is nearly 30 years of failure at the NFL level. This year will mark 30 years since John Elway, a graduate of Granada Hills High in the San Fernando Valley, was drafted No. 1 overall.

Since Elway (and even fellow Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon of Hamilton High in Los Angeles before him), the quarterbacks from that region have been little more than a series of flops. While Carson Palmer, Alex Smith and Randall Cunningham have had solid careers in the pros, they are the best of an otherwise sad group.

Overall, 21 quarterbacks who grew up in Southern California have been drafted in the first four rounds of the NFL draft dating to 1984.

That's out of a total of 178 quarterbacks selected in either the regular draft or the supplemental draft during that time. In other words, SoCal quarterbacks represent nearly 12 percent of the quarterbacks selected in that time. Moreover, of the 67 quarterbacks selected in the first round since 1984, nine (13 percent) are SoCal boys.

Not one of the 21 has so much as led his team to a Super Bowl. Even worse, the failures have been staggering, including the likes of Matt Leinart, Kyle Boller, J.P. Losman, Akili Smith, Dan McGwire and show-stopper Todd Marinovich. That list doesn't include Mark Sanchez, who has regressed the past two years with the New York Jets after helping them get to back-to-back AFC Championship games.

"You ask me and it's the decline of the Los Angeles City programs," said Moon, who played at Hamilton in the 1970s. "Between budget cuts and lack of equipment and all the other things, they just can't offer the same kind of quality program that we had back when I was . You have to have development and focus to produce really skill position players like quarterbacks. That doesn't happen. I see it."

Moon sees it because he still helps old friend Paul Knox, who has been the head coach at Dorsey High in the Los Angeles area since 1985. Moon is slightly younger than Knox, who also went to Hamilton, and raises money and gets equipment donations to help with the Dorsey program. To Knox, the lack of success of SoCal quarterbacks is sobering.

"When you think about it that way, it's pretty stunning," Knox said. "We have the seven-on-seven leagues. We have the talent. If you're recruiting from the Pac-12 or the Mountain West, you're still coming here to get players.

"I would say that the talent is dispersed and most of the programs aren't what they were, at least not in . But even out in the suburbs, you get Mater Dei and some of those programs, those are good programs. I really can't explain it."


Others, including NFL personnel, have plenty of theories, particularly when it comes to guys from USC.

"When you start at USC, it's like you've already made the big time," a team executive said. "You're a star. You're in the news all the time. It's like, 'Oh yeah, I'll be in the NFL in a couple of years, don't worry about it.' That's not how you make it in this league."


Knox echoed that sentiment, saying: "USC has been like our NFL team even since the NFL left, especially when Pete Carroll was here. If you're the quarterback there, you've arrived." That sense of entitlement has manifested itself in different ways. With Leinart, there was a sense among people who were with him after he was drafted by Arizona that he was always wanting to be in Los Angeles, not with the Cardinals working on his game.

With Sanchez, his love of the limelight was cemented at USC. Even now with the Jets, Sanchez seems to welcome the attention that goes with dating starlets like Eva Longoria rather than shying away from it.

That said, Leinart and Sanchez are only two cases.

The consistent failure of the overall group is strange. Where quarterbacks from Texas, (Drew Brees, Andy Dalton, Robert Griffin III and Andrew Luck) and even Northern California (Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Colin Kaepernick) have had success, SoCal passers don't come even close.

"If there's one thing I would say, it's that they're not tough, especially from a mental standpoint," a veteran scout said. "Elway was raised by a coach. He was taught the right way. Moon had it tougher than all of them because of the . That guy had to go to Canada to prove us all wrong.

"I don't know what it is about it down there, but I haven't seen one kid from there like that since ... Like I said, movie stars."
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the JIMMAH syndrome
Feb 21st 2013
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This shit was too retarded to even finish reading
Feb 21st 2013
2
Certain things are irrefutable
Feb 21st 2013
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      Ha, on phone, didn't originally see who swiped this but now it's perfect
Feb 21st 2013
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           I'm just clowning the QB rep that SC has earned itself
Feb 21st 2013
11
                if you're going Vietnamese, get yourself some pho, foo
Feb 21st 2013
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further proof that NorCal > SoCal
Feb 21st 2013
3
Better QBs for 10 years & women u need to be drunk to wanna fuck for 100
Feb 21st 2013
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      Nobel Prize Winners > Tmz.com
Feb 21st 2013
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           LMAO, you should have just stuck with your subject line
Feb 21st 2013
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           LOL
Feb 21st 2013
13
           please tell me where in SF i can find this
Feb 21st 2013
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                oakland
Feb 21st 2013
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                these cats aint coming anywhere near Oakland man LOL
Feb 21st 2013
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                you weren't hanging out in the wrong hoods
Feb 21st 2013
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                     i guess i subconsciously consider it the same thing
Feb 21st 2013
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I think some of the SoCal "failures" that they highlighted were a little...
Feb 21st 2013
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RE: I think some of the SoCal "failures" that they highlighted were a li...
Feb 21st 2013
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      Losman was highly recruited
Feb 21st 2013
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           makes sense, UCLA kinda sounds like Tulane level to me
Feb 21st 2013
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                Kyle Boller was actually the other big QB recruit that year
Feb 21st 2013
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                     Dude, Kevin Simon was THE TRUTH before he tore his knee up
Feb 21st 2013
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                          What is it with Vols and tearing knees (Simon, Jamaal Lewis)?
Feb 21st 2013
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                               lol that is awful and kinda hilarious
Feb 22nd 2013
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Isn't this sort of a small sample size?
Feb 21st 2013
10
MM HMM *Parties off this shit*
Feb 21st 2013
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I HAVE A PROBLEM
Feb 21st 2013
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I thought I was the only one who caught that
Feb 21st 2013
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THAT SHIT. Like....they just threw it in there so people wouldn't say
Feb 21st 2013
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yep....
Feb 21st 2013
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well Barkley will probably be better than Sanchise
Feb 21st 2013
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You ever see the list of QBs from Western PA?
Feb 21st 2013
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holy cow
Feb 21st 2013
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barkley's college career was so irrelevant
Feb 21st 2013
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Pretty shitty article to me. And Warren shouldn't have even had to
Feb 21st 2013
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