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bwood
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"Black Panther: Wakanda Forever discussion post"


          

Saw this shit last night in IMAX.

First let me start by saying all you recast T'Challa niggas look real fucking stupid right now. This film greatly honors his legacy both as Chadwick the actor AND T'Challa the character. The mid-credits scene is gonna have y'all eating Crow. Honestly, that mid-credits scene is SO good that going forward Marvel should cut that shit out.

This is not as good as the first one, but it's still a great film and easily the best of Phase Four so far.

My main gripe here is Namor. I have no problems with them changing his background as it's still true to the character. However, he's just Killmonger Part Two. Like Erik, I agree with him, but damn if this didn't feel like the same shit. Loved seeing the kingdom of Talokan as it's visually breathtaking, but it slows the movie down and should've been saved for Namor's own film or show (don't kid yourself, it's gonna happen).

I wish this just stuck to a geopolitical thriller with the world trying to invade Wakanda and mine vibranium from the nation. Would've been dope if U.S. Agent was the villain of the movie working on behalf of the United Nations to destabilize Wakanda playing into the colonization themes.

Julia Louis-Dreyfus' character Allegra is here full force. I still don't like the character and the way she's used here, she should've been the Amanda Waller in this film dispatching other supers and playing the destabilizing game from the shadows.

I do love that all the women are front and center. It's rare to see a movie of this size show black women like this. Smart, strong, and capable heroes. Riri Williams leaps off the page even if her and her part of the story could've been cut.

This is easily the best film of Phase Four with Spider-Man: No Way Home close behind. It's a lot to take in on the first watch and a tad too long, but this is a worthy follow-up to the first film. This has a distinction if being only the second Marvel sequel where it acts as a direct sequel to the first film than the Avengers movie that proceeded it. The other one is The Winter Soilder. All the themes setup in the first are explored here and they make explicit references to the first with only one mention of Thanos (thank God).

With the mid-credits scene in play, I can't wait to what Black Panther 3 is.

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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever discussion post [View all] , bwood, Tue Nov-08-22 01:10 PM
 
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For the record...
Nov 08th 2022
1
Is the 2:41 run time too long?
Nov 08th 2022
2
Just stay home
Nov 10th 2022
5
      I *asked* if it needs to be that long
Nov 11th 2022
6
           It definitely doesn't *need* to be that long.
Nov 11th 2022
12
           Probably a good way to put it.
Nov 12th 2022
16
           I think then lenght was well used
Nov 13th 2022
23
           He has this weird obsession with defending Marvel movies.
Nov 11th 2022
14
                Nope, sorry, the only one who “lost their shit” there was you
Nov 12th 2022
15
                     You're out of line...
Nov 12th 2022
17
                          Lol if I had a dollar for wvery time someone pulled some shit like that ...
Nov 12th 2022
18
honestly i just want a bad ass namor. is he not that?
Nov 08th 2022
3
RE: honestly i just want a bad ass namor. is he not that?
Nov 10th 2022
4
RE: honestly i just want a bad ass namor. is he not that?
Nov 11th 2022
7
that shit was dope af
Nov 11th 2022
8
It's easily one of the best films of this current phase
Nov 11th 2022
9
... pretty low bar to clear.
Nov 11th 2022
10
Better than recent ones, still suffers from a number of problems.
Nov 11th 2022
11
I agree with just about all of this
Nov 11th 2022
13
For you and other folks that saw the movie
Nov 14th 2022
24
      CGI wasn't on Avengers' movies level
Nov 14th 2022
26
      CGI isn't terrible, but it is rushed
Nov 14th 2022
28
      There's one underwater scene that was particularly bad IMO
Nov 14th 2022
30
      I mean, the coffin getting levitated into the spaceship...
Nov 14th 2022
32
      At the beginning of the movie, definitely.
Nov 14th 2022
31
           Thanks for the responses everyone.
Nov 16th 2022
51
Coogler's such a G.
Nov 12th 2022
19
They hit every note they needed to hit.
Nov 13th 2022
20
Honestly, MCU's most disappointing film (MAJOR SPOILERS)
Nov 13th 2022
21
I kind of think it was really good
Nov 13th 2022
22
Y'all are just anti-Black. Good grief.
Nov 14th 2022
25
Wouldn't say disappointing, but some points are fair. Some not..
Nov 14th 2022
27
      For one, T'Challa had Shuri running support.
Nov 14th 2022
29
           I don't think you build a franchise around Shuri.
Nov 16th 2022
52
                Maybe. All I know is, she showed & proved here.
Nov 18th 2022
57
I loved it. But there’s no way does numbers like the first BP.
Nov 14th 2022
33
They pulled off the damn near impossible
Nov 15th 2022
34
I was really impressed with how they handled grief/mourning in this
Nov 15th 2022
35
I watched part of that scene last week
Nov 15th 2022
36
      If I recall correctly...
Nov 15th 2022
37
           so what's an example of GOOD CGI?
Nov 15th 2022
38
           You asked Frank Longo, not me
Nov 15th 2022
39
                Cosign The Boys.
Nov 15th 2022
42
           This isn't something I care that deeply about
Nov 15th 2022
40
                This is 100% spot on.
Nov 15th 2022
41
                     I gotta agree.
Nov 15th 2022
43
                     I pray that Ant Man 3 and GOG 3 at least live up to the hype
Nov 16th 2022
44
                     Some of the shots in that Ant-Man 3 trailer...
Nov 16th 2022
49
                          Yeah, the ANT-MAN trailer is ROUGH
Nov 16th 2022
53
                          yeah I'm hoping Majors plays the role so well
Nov 16th 2022
54
                     Whenever I see "bad cgi" I ask "Does this look it could be in a comic bo...
Nov 16th 2022
46
                     The Marvel Universe expansion...
Nov 16th 2022
45
                     Out of curiosity
Nov 16th 2022
50
                          You, me, everybody © Yasiin Bey
Nov 17th 2022
55
                          as a comic book fan, ive liked every show a lot tbh
Mar 11th 2023
63
                     So we elevated popular art and capital did its thing
Nov 16th 2022
47
                          Well, here's what the optimist would say.
Nov 16th 2022
48
                               That's pretty coherent to me
Nov 22nd 2022
58
Any movie with Apple slander is fine by me.
Nov 18th 2022
56
lol
Nov 28th 2022
59
This is boring. Is that worse than being bad?
Mar 02nd 2023
60
I finally watched this on D+ and I agree, also, the CGI was terrible
Mar 02nd 2023
61
      the bad Marvel CGI dead horse is one I'll never tire of beating
Mar 03rd 2023
62

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